EZ Server

Minor Updates!

Ok, here we go again with miscellaneous updates. :-)


Ring of the Ages had recommended (rec) level and required (req) level set. The levels are as follows:

• Ranks 0 - 200: Rec/Req levels of 70
• Ranks 201-400: Req level of 70, rec level of 72
• Ranks 401-600: Req level of 72, rec level of 73
• Ranks 601-800: Req level of 73, rec level of 75
• Ranks 800-1000: Req level of 75, rec level of 76

Mask of Experience buffs are now regulated via level. When a Mask of Experience buff is cast (group cast or MGB cast), it checks against the level chart below to determine your highest eligible buff. If you receive a rank higher than your "set amount", it recasts the lower buff on you instead. This way the Mask of Experience is effectively 'unchanged'.

• 1-69: 0%
• 70: 50%
• 71: 100%
• 72: 150%
• 73: 200%
• 74: 250%
• 75: 300%
• 76: 350%
• 77+: No cap

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The RoA level caps are due to the regeneration values simply not eligible to scale down. If we are ok with REMOVING the regeneration from RoA, then I can remove required level cap (leaving only the recommended one).

These changes spawned off of feedback from email and from the thread below:
http://ezserver.online/forums/index.php?topic=5102.msg65977#msg65977


-Hate

I should mention that I am open to suggestions on how I may 'better' handle this. I know some are displeased with the changes. Please let me know how I might have handled this better and if it's sound (and if others agree), I see no issue in changing it. :-)


-Hate

Hard no on removing regen from RoA. Would like to see under 70 getting 50% and 70 getting 100% but eh. Also wish you made mask raid buff but eh.

The RoA change is solid, too bad about level scaling. Just don't remove the HP Regen, it's handy to have.

Will come back later to post my thought on the Mask change. Too distracted to think about it.

It seems fair to me, in order to benefit from a custom buff you need to progress through custom content.  The more you progress, the bigger the benefit you can get from it.  Not having access to exp buffs in sub 70 content was never a hindrance before, I don't see why it would be now.

The EXP buffs are the reason for "stuck" characters. These are level 68/69 players that cannot 'ding'. This *should* remove this issue permanently. :-D


-Hate

Looks solid to me, can we get a bump in exp in Bot? PoF is to broken to really use, so Bot is where I tend to go 45-70 but its slow going.

Great update

Rec and req is the perfect recipe.  Thumbs up.  Regen is super helpful so no.

I agree with the changes and am happy it was done.  The regen is a bit crazy but,  really helps.  I don't think I'd be too upset to see it reduced if it was necessary.  All in all,  great idea to do it this way.  Second the motion of making mask raid buffable as well.

lol

The max level mask change is definitely a good one imo.

The 1-70 grind is rediculous with a 300+% mask.

EDIT: The EXP buffs change is solid.

I edited out the unnecessary thoughts because in the end I agreed with the change and no longer having two cents about it.

I don't think anyone would have a RoA above 600 by lvl 76....

my warrior's roa is still below 500 and i'm in t9...

I disagree with lvl 1-69 not getting any exp buff.
I also disagree with how you have it staged.  I think anyone should be able to get any level exp buff after level 74.
If you can make it through T5 you shouldn't face any additional nerfs...
Why nerf this at all?  This is just another example of people whining because someone else is doing to something I can't/won't/or already did.
I think nerfing the RoA is good enough...

Also if you read through these posts are other explanations about this in regards to future health of the server.

Yes did read that, but I still don't think this is going to make a difference in regards to the future health of the server.
The RoA changes are okay, I'm not against those.  I'm against EXP buffs getting nerfed.  Especially past T5... I just don't see the need for that to happen

If you were the one casting the mask buff, farmed the experience to level it legitimately, and then this change was announced you could definitely consider it a nerf. Can you answer yes to each of those if they were asked in question form?  The exp rate relative to lower tiers of progression is already well ahead of normal zone exp and there's nothing outside of the 2kish aa's that you need to advance through the lower tiers.  RoA and experience masks are AA dumps to work on after you've gotten your toon aa's finished, it makes sense that you can start benefitting from them at that point in progression.  The exp mask has gone a long way toward trivialing lower level content already and the change has been long overdue, the item didn't even exist until what, T9?  Only T10 has come out since, so it'd be a hard argument to make that mitigating the benefits from it scaled by progression tier somehow limits anyone's ability to progress.

Well, that's your opinion, and I have mine, I'll just leave it at that...

A lot of us did RoA 0 - 100 by releveling from 1-70, as this was how it was done then. If we could do it 100 times, you can do it a few times for new alts.


This is *NOT* an issue of others whining because they can't/didn't get it, this is an issue of the EXP buffs causing further detriment and GREATLY expediting portions of the game that were unintended. Hunter built and added them, then we lost him before they were an issue. Case in point, RoA1000 adds 655k and is was obtainable in less than a week of fairly decent play time. In this one week of repetitious grinding, you have broken T7 HP/regen levels, making all tiers below it completely or bloody near completely trivial. It's hard for me to hear arguments for allowing characters just toying around in HoH to have more HP than a warrior ENTERING Temple of Veeshan (T8).

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I should have just changed the EXP values when I brought it up months ago and this entire situation could have been avoided.


-Hate

so... I missed some stuff yesterday and it turns out some cheating bitches where exploiting POF by lvling in a buttload of lvl 46 toons and then bringing in a higher level guy and ROA 1000k him in a few days...


these bitches should be stripped of the ROA at least.... this kind of exploiting has to be dealt with harshly to deter future abuse..


i dont mean to derail this but I was pretty shocked to hear about this....

I saw the RoA going from 600 to 800  the other day and thought wtf...  To me it's not 100% exploit, but at the same time it's definitely not how things are intended to work. 

How do you determine what's an exploit in pofire? The zone was giving a ton of xp, then it wasn't. It was scaling with good xp, then it wasn't. Zone is always changing lIke everything on EZ. Remember when OMM would #pullzone? At some point it's on the devs to make this stuff work right. I recently leveled some new toons because I've always wanted to bring up a necro and beastlord (to complete my set with all toons). I heard pofire was good again, so I brought them in as anyone would when pofire is useful. If I like the zone and the xp - at what point do I say "oh no it's too good ala OMM I should do something less productive!" Remember pofire has no loot and historically has operated as uber xp zone with no loot - so it's in line. For a while I felt the zone was broken and lame - seems it might be that way again. I will admit sometimes it's hard playing on EZ with every turn someone saying x or y is unfair. The game is the game if it's not an overt exploit it should fall on devs to make it work. Getting hella good xp in pofire has been a long standing tradition - I'm not sure why it falls on every individual player to determine when something is "too good." Personally, I thought it was good, but not too good considering zero loot and still a grind. I have xpv3 so all my xp is "good."

The devs already work their asses off and can't do everything, and at some point the pitchforks need to calm down and put things into perspective. We can't all be devs here.

Anyway just my 2cp.

ROA 1000k in a week is an exploit....


However you did it you know it was cheating...

Yeah, but Godtank. Can you tell me that with 700% exp buff and 10 mins of zone pull to get 7k AAs is intended?

That's exactly the whole reason bunch of people are rustled about. The Ring of Ages is supposed to take you LONG time to level up and these guys maxed it out in 1 to 3 weeks.

@Kelordis, you know that v3 is 1k XP and costs quite some money right? i agree with Warrior5.. PoFire is supposed to be a zone with NOTHING but EXPERIENCE

Warrior5 made new characters while geting himself his main RoA's and shit .. why not his alts.

Not like a new person cane just go get roa 1k in a week or 2 or 3.. i dont call PoFire an explot or cheating.. simply just xping because again that's all it is.

But most of this server is higher tier and dont want anyone ( in my opinion ) " catching up "

That's not what any of this is about Cyanide.  you are speaking out of ignorance not knowing the exploit that was used in PoFire.....so before trying to stand on a soapbox and make the claims you are making try to understand things from hateborne's view point.

When the zone is set for your lvl and then you bring in a shit ton of lowbies to bring the zone level down so you can rape it...that's exploiting the zone dynamics. hate tries to make things that are fun but people abuse them (admittedly I did that exact same thing (unknowingly) during the Christmas event and once I found out I was exploiting the system I deleted all gains I made from the zone).....

Personally I don't know anyone who did RoA 1k in a week but I'm sure it happened as Hate said it did. My main went from 850 to 1000 after a long ass grind and I have 1000% xp... not crazy at all with eev3 which costs 1000/750 credits ftr. My alts have RoA rank zero.

/OMM

Oh i know about the exploit just simply stating its a SCALE ZONE not like u can bring in ur whole army of 77s which you'd like to RoA them. I know very well what I'm talking about

Anyways i don't give a fuck, the changes were made deal with them guys.. he aint gonna change them back

Nor should he. They're fair, they honestly wont effect players negatively (my opinion, since they STILL have it 10 times easier than most of us when we started our chars) and its a step in solving some genuine issues on the server.

Good compromise, Hate.

Uphill, through the snow, both ways to school...

Easier doesnt make the server better. Just makes it boring quicker.

god damn it Chunka stop making me agree with you

Is the Dark Side stronger?

No, no, no. Quicker, easier, more seductive.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=493ljyoox6o

Wait, Rent is the Dark Side?

I am fairly new here even though I started on this server back in early 2014. I played for a while, got to epic 3.0 on three characters and leveled up my RoA quite a few times the old school way of 0-70.  Then I stop on the server for a couple of years, just coming back a couple months ago.

I am just throwing that info out there to give a frame of reference to my thinking.

I am 100% behind the change to the RoA and actually think that change is way overdo.  A lower level character with a high level RoA is a very serious balancing issue.

The issue I have is with the EXP buff, I just don't follow the logic of why the limitations are set the way they are.  The EXP buff does not allow you to move through content faster now that the RoA limitations are in place. 

You can gain AAs until you have so many you crash the server but without being able to upgrade your gear with them until you level up...whats the point...whats the harm?

Also, I do not understand why a 101% EXP buff, that you did not personally earn, at level 71 is a balancing issue but a 1000% exp buff, that you did not personally earn, at level 77 is not.  That is the real kicker for me, it gives the appearance that gaining massive amounts of extra exp is OK for the vets but not for new players.

Ultimately I guess who cares, whats the point of earning AAs you cant spend right?  And the EXP buffs the lower levels are able to receive are very nice to get and very appreciated.  I just don't care for the "us" against  "them" ("vets" against "newb") attitude that seems to be happening.

With the EXP buff changes and RoA limitation, it's going be awhile before you reach level cap on RoA unless you hard grind for it. If anything you will be rolling to next level before you hit RoA level cap. You can still get the EXP buffs and level up your RoA to it's new level cap. Just no more RoA 1000 for level 71/72 in a week.

There's also Earring of Ages and Mask of EXP you can dump your AAs into. Which once again, take ages to work into. For real tho, if you really can get THAT many AAs early in low tier, then maybe the mobs EXP need tweaking...OR maybe it's time for you to move up to next tier! :P

Mainly to keep AAs flow reasonably for lower tier players and once you progressed enough to hit level 77 then it's all yours because you will need it for higher end RoA/Earring/Mask. This also placed in so you don't have to worry about maxing out your RoA/Earring/Mask as soon as possible. You're better off just focus on progression and level up RoA as you goes with it. Unless you're into that hard grinds, then by all mean, do it. It's play your way afterall.

I'm "newb" (barely over one month new) and I support this balance changes for better health of server to last longer and to keep new players reeled in so they wouldn't be bored quickly. Not because of "vets" against "newbs."

  RoA 1000 in a week by low levels was stopped by level limits on RoA, which I support.  Now the only ones that could RoA in a week are the high levels.

  If those items are not level limited and the intent is to level limit them then maybe they should be level limited.....

Controlling AA flow for only lower tier players is exactly my point, what is good for the goose is good for the gander.  If you want to control AA flow you can't just pick a select group you feel is unworthy and expect that group not to notice what you did.

I am just trying to express how it appears to me.  There may be the best intentions in the world but but usually if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck......its probably a duck.

Except it's not possible anymore unless they found another exploit. PoFire was nerfed to the ground. It's level 70 zone now with subpar exp.

Not even high level can get RoA to 1000 in a week anymore.

I am tier 10, and other than buying AA crystals, my max geared/leveled Warrior is the ONLY toon I have with RoA 1000 and I have been playing on server for 6 years.  Everyone else is around 600-700.  Jesus Christ guys stop acting the victim.  if you are going through progression you will get the gear in short enough time before you have the AA banked for a RoA 400!  Hell I would have LOVED to hear you guys bitch when Hunter changed RoA from 100 (max) to 1000 (max) and wiped everyone's AA's so no one could jump to 1000 in an hour of handing in the rings.  Back then we had nothing for AA's to be dumped into except RoA.  Once you hit RoA 100 you just banked all the AA. Stop acting the victim and just play the damned game.  if you have that big a problem with it find a different server because shit changes here depending on the situation and the ONLY dev we have has to adapt to keep the health of the server and his sanity.....btw I stll hate you Hate.  ;)

This is what gets lost in the translation.  The newer folks probably are questioning this change and the concerns voiced by Biltin are totally understandable given his perspective.  The single point of emphasis made in this quoted statement is exactly why the veteran players are bothered that someone gamed the shit out of the mechanics of a system and blew through years of relevant content AA farming in a week and have the audacity to try to play the victim. I've been playing here for years as well, I have a single RoA 1k toon that I pooled all of my resources into so he could get to that point...my next highest is the first character I rolled on this server, who's been in every single group I've made when grinding and who benefits from me clicking my exp mask which is now 452 or something.  The point is, this character has benefited from being grouped with a geared out warrior blowing through content and having an exp buff mod on him when I'm not too lazy to cast it and he has an RoA 733.  This shitstorm isn't because anyone cares who catches up, the shitstorm is because the abuse a few retards committed totally trivialized years of gameplay.


Now the only ones that could RoA in a week are the hackers.

hell I have killed a few things and i dont even have a ROA 1k....


I am shocked that people could game this for that much aa... they should not only lose the Rings on all toons...but any xp masks or earrings as well....



burn em i say!

Who was it that did the RoA 1k in a week? New players or someone that's been here for a while? I know it's of no relevance, just curious who it was.

This thread has degenerated quite a bit. It has some valid and interesting points on both sides. I am locking this thread to prevent it passing the 'point of no return'.


-Hate