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Sarthin
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« Reply #15 on: August 09, 2022, 11:25:17 am »

Dynamic abilities that you have to mitigate and make you prepare for are such a brighter future for content on this server.

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« Reply #16 on: September 10, 2022, 03:05:55 am »

I'm a bit late to this but I started in VP last month and have since worked my way up to killing these regularly and wanted to leave my feedback.

When I first started fighting them, only my tank was 7/8 UA and maybe one or two alts had 3 pieces, nobody had a charm over UCv2, and I didn't have any of the VP heals or the cleric sleeper spells. Collecting some orbs from the trash i could kill and getting the VP heals, and then flagging my first cleric for sleepers to get those spells made a huge difference in my ability to kill these initially.

I currently run a total of 30 characters in VP, so my experience and difficulty in doing some of this content will not be the same as everyone. I know for sure that certain aspects of this encounter will be much harder the lower your total numbers are, and depending on the makeup of classes, mainly healers.(i have 2 clerics, druid, shaman, and a pally in each group)

I think the encounter is well designed, far better than any of the ones in sleepers, and feels pretty fair if you are actually prepared for what the fight is going to throw at you and aren't just trying to send in all your characters and zero effort it like most of the old content on the server.

Needing to actually look at the tools you have available to you, either riposte discs/clickies, cleric Vie shields, offtanks, or any other methods you have come up with for dealing with this encounter, is a fresh and needed new experience for the server. Not everything needs to be the same old tank n' spank. There is still plenty of that with trash and pretty much everything in the zone that isnt a dragon soul or a boss.


My next point of feedback is about loot and risk/effort vs reward. I tracked my drops for 100 dragon soul kills, and while I know this isn't an amazing sample size, I still feel like its better than coming in here and giving feedback with no data at all.

Rather than post the entire list as text in here to clog it up, ill attach my notepad file with the list, and give a little TLDR of it in this post.

Every kill drops a couple million plat worth of crates, so i didn't include these in the list because they always drop.

TLDR:
55 kills dropped aa crystals, on rare occasions more than one(10k and 50k, or multiple 50k)
68 kills dropped a spell orb
39 hp augs
35 resist augs
a few other misc things like powerless rings, FGSOA, or a soul fragment. Did not see a GSS or regular GSOA in the 100 kills i tracked.

For the most part, I think the loot is fine, they reliably drop AA crystals, and are the most reliable source of getting HP augs for filling out your alts. There are definitely dry streaks where you dont get any of the 'good' loot, and this would definitely feel worse the harder this encounter is for you to do, but thats just EQ rng at the end of the day, you can't win big every pull.

My biggest point of complaint on loot would be the spell orbs. They drop A LOT, and very quickly become useless because there are only a few spells to get with them, and you can get them from other mobs in the zone, albeit much less often than from dragon souls.

My feedback here is going to be biased based on what i currently need in terms of drops, so it would be great if anyone else wants to chime in on reasonable things they would like to see in regards to this.


But could the spell orb drop slot perhaps be shared with a few other items? Like SLS or EoN, or even qvic-t4 essence because im drowning in t5-10 from killing in the deeper parts of the zone. Giving up a few of the plat crates for some of these potential options would be a worthwhile tradeoff to me as well.

Something else i thought of, but would likely be much higher effort, would be turning Lillyana at the zone entrance into an exchange NPC for spell orbs. She could give you whatever reasonable items you come up with for X number of spell orbs.

I don't have any expectation of changes just because I wrote a bunch of words, but thanks for reading regardless.
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« Reply #17 on: September 10, 2022, 10:08:23 am »

t1-5 drop plenty off mobs at zone in, you mention risk vs reward, be pissed if I fought a dragon and it dropped qvic essences and some plat boxes..

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« Reply #18 on: September 10, 2022, 01:30:12 pm »

t1-5 drop plenty off mobs at zone in, you mention risk vs reward, be pissed if I fought a dragon and it dropped qvic essences and some plat boxes..

Tank

And is it better when it drops a resist aug you dont need, and a spell orb you dont need, with some plat boxes? Qvic essence is useful for far more things at least.

 It was also just one of the things i suggested, and by no means something that MUST be, thats why i asked for others suggestions. Maybe you have some you can offer instead of just saying mine suck.
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« Reply #19 on: September 10, 2022, 01:47:59 pm »

I never said it sucked, I just said there are other places to get it rather than adding it to the loot table of a somewhat difficult fight but hey heaven forbid you have to go and kill the mobs in the zone that already drop it because they are away from the coth safe spots where you can farm away all day instead eh..

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« Reply #20 on: September 10, 2022, 01:57:59 pm »

Which it was just one of the things suggested, and yet you still arent offering your own, instead just acting salty for some reason.
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« Reply #21 on: September 10, 2022, 02:02:07 pm »

I offered my own ideas for t1-5 essences.. here are some more

Sleepers warders..
The actual zones the essences come from.

Hope this helps.

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« Reply #22 on: September 10, 2022, 02:06:52 pm »

You seem to completely miss the point. I'm not asking for suggestions for essences. I'm asking for suggestions for things the dragon soul could SOMETIMES drop instead of spell orbs a large majority of the time.

Stop acting like an asshole, Tankus.

Hope this helps.
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« Reply #23 on: September 10, 2022, 02:42:10 pm »

Personally I don't really have any strong feelings on their loot table at the moment, but I agree that it's not necessary for the huge drop chance the spell orbs have in VP currently.
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