Thread is now win.

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Don't worry, I didn't take it as such. I have expected this to be 100x more violent than it has been.

I am glad you received my response as I intended instead of a troll. I have done enough trolling on the forums and i would like to get away from that. Especially when dealing with you. I didn't take anything you said as dickish either.

You won't be completely "at the start" on the augs. Some of the clicks will be given to those that have certain weapons and certain ranks (i.e. UW AoE click may be restricted to 1h swords (UW Long Sword), UW Shield Click may be restricted to 1h mace (Ultimate Mace), etc etc). You will not start with the highest rank, but you will not be flat out pissed on either.

You had me at Hello. If I am reading this right I like it a lot. Basically giving those with higher UW a leg up that they earned on the uw instead of just giving them the new UW and telling them they are screwed on that hand slot. Especially if you are talking about giving out some or a choice of the new augs that would make the tier their UW is at.

This may sound dickish (not intended), but I'm not blind. I understand the hellish grinds that some people have put into them. I'm aware of the botting some have done too, but I'm not letting that taint/skew my judgement. I was a player here and did grind up a few augs (though certainly less than others with more melee heavy groups). That being said, I do understand the time sink.

Again you're not dickish and I appreciate your views on it. Under Hunter the server molded itself to the best way of doing things. I understand your appreciate the delicate task completing what was left undone and improving what was already there. For the record I agree with transitioning the server so that botting is not needed at all.

Xiggie, I would ask that you read over the thread as time permits. Yes I understand that a LOT of time was spent into getting these items. I have no doubt that you've noticed that glaring imbalance they cause. A warrior being able to pull the first 1/3 of a zone, afk autoattacking, then repopping...no healer...no assistance...solo destroying ~50-70 NPCs just a tier or two less. With new tiers, it's become pretty much impossible to cleanly balance content. This is READILY seen in T8 and higher ToFS (ignore T9 though, it was left in beta state). The problem will only continue to get worse (if it can even continue) in future tiers. T9 is locked down both because it's incomplete and because I cannot bring it down to meet both ends of the player spectrum (even the middle ground is more favorable to the UW holders).


-Hate

I will look over all the posts on here, just had some things going on that needed my attention plus I wanted to put some untainted ideas out there. I agree that something does need to be done with warriors basically being able to be a group themselves. Before some of the nerfs that came about I could go into a tier above me with an Ultimate Weapon below what I have now and tank bosses and any adds that came my way. I could prolly kill 10 or so trash with no gear from that zone. That is broken plain and simple. One of the alluring things about this server though is the ability to go back to previous content and utterly rape it. Maybe not to the degree it currently happens though. I hope we don't lose that allure to the point of other servers but I do hope some of it gets toned down a bit for the health of the server.

Thanks for your time man.

I have dumped 10's of millions of plat and thousands of essences into my UW's. Now we are looking at nerfing them to be a step above epics but I can now sink more plat, mats and time to bring them back up? I am not trolling you Hate, I am just wanting to give you some perspective feedback. With the suggestions you have put forth the effort I put into my UW's will in no way match what I am left with. I did not look over the plethora of suggestions except to skim, I looked over your post. So I have a few ideas, if I riposte else's idea just look at it as an endorsement.

Artifact Ultimate Weapon:
Give people somewhat of a notice that all UW's will be frozen as they are. A week or 2 window to allow them to upgrade them. Take away all the extra aug slots except for the epic slot and make it so the UW can not be upgraded any further.  Allow people to continue to exchange them from one type to another.

New Ultimate Weapon:
Exactly as you have described in your post.

3rd option:
Allow people to turn in their current UW's for the equal tier of epic, fully aug'd plus an amount of plat to offset the cost between the two, or the equivalent amount of credits, (for cases like 1h'ers) and allow those credits to be transferable. This option should only be allowable if the Artifact Ultimate Weapon is not viewed as a viable option.

I like the first 2 options myself. This makes it so people don't just get screwed out of all that plat and effort they put in.

lol

I am out of town right now but when I get back I have a few ideas to throw out there. Lot of good ideas in here.

This is awesome communication Akka and I for one am pleased with what I am seeing. There are a lot of good ideas floating around and it looks like they are all being looked at.

The donations I think is a great idea, I would much rather see no cost to admins and gms as costs would be burdensome and EZ needs some EZ to ensure it stays around.

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I think that is very good news. Really pleased.

I agree with Fugitive whole hearted. I don't want to start a bunch of drama over it but I am really glad that basher will still be in it. I think basher's job would have been a lot easier if hate had been given lead with basher doing his normal role. No disrespect to anyone.


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I don't know that Hunter's (Aaron) family and friends in real life will ever see this but I would like to express from all of us our sincerest condolences. This is absolutely shocking and tragic. I am dumbfounded what to even say. I am very sorry to all the people who have lost their friend and family member.

There would probably be some sort of conflict but the easy solution is to make the SoT aug any inv slot and any aug slot.

I think it is too trivial to bother Hunter with coming up with the code/quest to implement it. Not saying it would be all that hard but it's just stupid easy to come up with aa. There are plenty of other directions Hunter can apply his efforts in.

Woot, woot, woot. Thank you Hunter. Looking forward to this. I would assume since augs can have HR they would continue to have it.

Any chance of getting the Sceptre of Time changed into an aug since we can now click augs when they are put in items?

That was a very good explanation, I appreciate it. Too bad there is not an easier way to do it. Going forward for the next tiers, would it be just as easy to make those next epics/armor augs instead of armor and weapons?

I am confused about why it would be a gigantic undertaking? I would have thought just copy the current items, make the copy augs instead of wearable. Then make a duplicate of the recipe/quest to get the original armor with some slight modifications to turn your wearable armor/weapon into an aug. Maybe I don't understand the logistics but I thought most of it would be copy and paste and batch edits.