Akk, you do what ya gotta do. Its for the good of all, we can be patient.

And thank you, btw.

Progress, its up and locked.

Yes, but, again, there are people who are so used to that type of play that they want to turn every game into another knockoff of it. I think thats what we're seeing here. Look, my BEST memories of MMO's were when the game was so stupid hard that you could sometimes spend 5 hours on a CR. No, this aint rose colored beer goggles, its that it 1) became a sense of actual accomplishment for something as simple as running from Halas to Freeport without high level backup....let alone getting an old cleric epic done, and 2) took TIME....I had to actually invest into what I was doing, which got me involved AND meant that I'd BE involved long term. I didnt play for a few weeks then say "Well, thats done....not much else to do. This is boring!"

Look, I am probably the biggest problem in terms of tossing out buffs. The click Hate and Akk gave me is one of the more powerful buffs in the game (T9 buffs plus 250% exp and mass mage IA3 in one click).....Godtanks a close second. I used to buff ALL THE TIME in Nexus....now not so much. Giving newer players that kind of pump early on aint doing them any favors, honestly, because they dont learn, for one, and because it reduces the amount of time they can enjoy EZ....and there is a lot to enjoy here. Its helped create a whole crop of newer players who for one think that they cant do anything without someone buffing them, and also has helped enable many to just burn through content in record time.

I think there needs to be a fix. First, I'm publicly asking Hate to change my clicky. As much as I appreciate the award, its too much. If I am saying we shouldnt overpower lowbies then I shouldnt benefit from this either. So at the least please remove the IA3 component, my personal 25K damage shield and the 250% exp buff. As much as I like the mass exp on my group, I am also suggesting that we make the exp buffs group only, not responding to MGB...and make them 30 minute duration with a one hour recast timer, like the dropped potions. I honestly think this will make the server better in the long run. Feel free to disagree, but I know what I know. After that....I dont know about the huge hp buffs. I dont see much problem with heavy hps if the newer player doesnt also get a hyper dps bump with it, so I dont really see a need for level limits there.

And a possible suggestion to offset this....maybe resurrect Blue Diamond and lower crafted armor....or a quest to add a crafted aug to tier armor that would give some benefits that might help lower tier players churn through. Dont make them too easy, and dont make it allow higher level players to help churn them through. Perhaps, along with your typical essence and SLS parade, some tasks that when completed give you an item in cursor or inventory needed to combine with the other items to make such an aug or armor piece. Maybe augs that add self buff click to the armor (go go gadget Kunark clickies!!).

Just some thoughts. For hate to do in his copious spare time

Yeah, only issue is you'd be able to mass pull the zone....and trust me, this is NOT something anyone would willingly do in T10.

I think the problem is you didnt know Hunter. He liked naming his server EZ (Extended Zones) then smacking the newly minted player in the nuts with a bowling ball. Honestly its one of the things I miss most about him.

If you come here and think "Oh, this is Easy Server", thats understandab le. If after a week or two here you STILL think that then you didnt do too well in reading in grade school. Its all over, everywhere, in the wiki and forums and in chat: EZ does not equal "Easy", nor should it.

As for the rest, I call em like I see em. Warcract killed MMO's, in my opinion. Idiots who expected every other freaking game out there to follow that same pathetically craptastic formula, whining all the time about how "grindy" a game is have pretty much ruined every other game thats come since. I'd honestly rather NOT see this server take that same road. If you want an easy game you can log into and basically spend several hours trading Al Gore or Chuck Norris quips there are plenty to chose from out there; dont in one breath state how boring and cheap these other games are then state that we need to follow the same formula here. Thats....illogical. And destructive. Just....dont. Or did I misunderstand your statement?

As for me being toxic, tough shit And way to not get what I was saying.

No.....the rule is the retard who got too confused by P99, who's bored to tears with games like Warcrap who came here because the wife/and-or Mommy wouldnt give them the credit card to buy a sub to a mainstream game, and who saw the name "EZ" and got immediate wood.....who then started smashing his safety helmet into the keyboard screaming "BAD!! BAD MAN! RENT BAD MAN!"

Ok, sorry, I got that out of my system. Rent, some days you're my hero.

There IS no "rule". Get 10 new players and you'll see 10 completely different reasons for playing and play styles. But one thing I WILL tell you: of the players who would make it here long term you'll see far more drieven away by shit being too easy than ones being "driven off" because they cant buy their way to T9.

I'd just like to point out that most of the veterans commenting on this never really benefited from the buffs in question when they were coming up. If we had exp buffs they were far later in our careers, and they were the result of cash donated to the server, not a clicky you can get pretty much just by logging in and killing a bit (and in the grand scheme of things not a lot of kills, either). We didnt have massive hp buffs (25K max, iirc). We didnt have huge damage shields. There WERE no massive damage buffs....hell, there were no strike augs anyway. We survived.

Am I saying these are all bad things? HELL, no. I love what Hate's done with the place. However....balance is important, and this is what we're discussing. Bottom line is, as much as you may claim we're "driving away new players", I gotta call bullshit. GREAT example is Waraesh. Kick ass player, aint really been around long. Where is he now? Now that he's T10 and one of the top rated players on the server?

He aint here. He left. He's bored. He's pissed that things have become so cheapened that even in his VERY limited time here it upsets him. I'll let him explain why, if he chooses to do so, or will let you ask him (if you can find him).

Where's Fugi? Where's Kruciel? Anyone REALLY seen Rymo play much lately? Hell, how much less do I log in? And beyond that....how many other players have spent a few short months here, hit T9 or T10 and maxed gear, and have vanished? This is something every game runs into....and the way most combat it is to just churn on new content at an alarming rate. Well, Hate's ONE guy. He has obligations. He cant make this a full time career.

I was calling for T10 to be a NIGHTMARE....and it is to an extent. I also find it disappointing and boring, but thats not Hate's fault. We have some pretty big limitations on the EMU, and we're hitting them to an extent.

My point is that there has to be a balance between "LOG IN AND DIE NOOB!!!!" and the bullshit we all saw so much of in Warcrap, "Greetings Hunter! Please correctly state your name for max level and the best possible gear!" Thats the point of this discussion.....and the hard truth is that if you make this shit too easy (and right now, I dont care what you say, it IS) then the server will be populated by assclowns who are just here for bragging rights (you know....jerkwads who spend all their time in Nexus auctioning SLS for 500K each, wearing T9 gear and UWXI, even though they have killed maybe 12 mobs since they hit 70).

If you cant see that shits broke, you're livin in a van down by the river....you know, that one in Egypt.

Recipes for these? Or just drops?

BTW....is 2h aug fix still on the list?

Heh....sorry, didnt mean as a replacement to what we currently have, but as an alternative....aloows folks to if nothing else "test" the item before they get the full version. Again, just a thought.

Nowhere near as bad as it was.....still a few desyncs though.

Well....perhaps its time to dust off an old idea I gave Hunter a long time ago: temporary versions of some of the bigger items, like rez clicky, free waypoint, etc. Perhaps 10 credits for a months use on free waypoint....maybe the same for rez clicky. You get the idea. Use it for X time then it vanishes.

Pretty sure 100 ez was what I paid when I got my mass rez, ages ago. Might be mistaken, but thats what I remember the cost being. As for lowering repop costs....I can see your point but I dont know that I agree with it. If we do something like this then maybe just for something like ToFS; T5 and up should have a healthy repop cost (though a solid argument could be made to lower cost for Anguish, given the 3 day resapwn time. I'd lower either the repop cost of that or lower respawn timer).

not always want but last few years always Eastern runs an event like DBL or last year HW are on +

Been playing here for years....never have I seen double loot on Easter. I'm told there was at least one, but I DID take an extended break a time or two, and I think one of them covered an Easter.

Sorry. No Easter DLW here. We seldom see DL for Independence Day, or Memorial Day, or Taco Tuesday, or Gay Indian Liberation Day.

Carry on!

Breathless 5 so far, and its T9 iirc.