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Title: Epic 4.0 Updates
Post by: Hunter on June 17, 2010, 01:51:54 am
Ok, people are starting to get their Epic 4.0's for the first time now. The boss has 175k hp regen per tick, and has already been beaten with 13 boxes. Tactics are required to survive the NPC doing damage shields and shout kills. And obviously DPS is needed. You'll need to break the 175k hp regen to win. T3/T4 spells help with DPS, and as you start getting your 4.0 weapons, your DPS will get even higher to help your guild get their Epics as well. Epic Boss 4.0 requires a purple stone, so don't turn one in unless you have the man power. No refunds on wasted stones.

I had a typo for the Warrior 4.0 turn in, but will be fixed soon. All other classes work, from any Epic Vendor (Surefall, Nexus, CG, FG).

About 2 years ago I played with some custom weapons with over 200 damage, and it some how was broken. The damage wasn't correct. I don't know if this was fixed yet. I need to experiment with the weapons a bit. Only the Warrior 4.0 will have Aug slots for now for their Anger Augs. I'm not sure if a dmg+ aug will bug the weapons and is why I removed the slots.

I'm considering creating another 4.0 Aug for 4.0 Weapons that would have higher dmg/aggro than the current Anger IV and V's. I'm not sure what slot "type" are used for Augs, how high they currently go, whats available, etc. I know most people have type 4 and 8 on their weapons. Anyone use types higher than that? Maybe I could make type 9 or type 12's for Epic 4.0's only.

The higher damage on the weapons make up for a lot of the DPS, but obviously not enough to make up for the loss of an Anger Aug. The HP on the weapons do make up for any aug loss though, since they are mostly 12.5k hp for one handed and 25k hp for two handed weapons.

Graphics are currently same as 3.0's, and I'm willing to change them to the same as any other weapon in the game, that can be viewed by a Titanium client. As with the spells, just send screenshot of the Epic and of the weapon graphic you'd like to use instead.

Epic 4.0 Weapons may have their aug slots added or removed. No refunds if I remove an aug slot, so slot them at your own risk for now until everything is finalized.

That's all I can think of for now. The boss is pretty much as intended for now. The weapons just need some final touches.

-Hunter




Title: Re: Epic 4.0 Updates
Post by: Consumer on June 17, 2010, 02:47:44 am
Awesome!!!  It was very cool to see someone get their 4.0 today! 


Title: Re: Epic 4.0 Updates
Post by: sohami on June 17, 2010, 02:52:54 am
Just to put it out there. Maybe create a post in each class forum for suggestions on 4.0 epic graphics.

I can speak for at least myself here, especially on the monk side, NO ONE wants to continue with the floating wafer cookie graphic for 4.0. Lol.

Do you have access to weapon graphics past the expansion we're already operating on?


Title: Re: Epic 4.0 Updates
Post by: Akkadius on June 17, 2010, 02:55:02 am
Just to put it out there. Maybe create a post in each class forum for suggestions on 4.0 epic graphics.

I can speak for at least myself here, especially on the monk side, NO ONE wants to continue with the floating wafer cookie graphic for 4.0. Lol.

Do you have access to weapon graphics past the expansion we're already operating on?

The point of him basing it on Titanium is that so all users can see it. He can simply set the graphic to an expansion more current, but to everyone else they would see nothing on hand.


Title: Re: Epic 4.0 Updates
Post by: sohami on June 17, 2010, 03:01:52 am
Oh, good call. I'll be back with a few suggestions on the monk 4.0. However it's hard to find screenshots of these things online. :)



Title: Re: Epic 4.0 Updates
Post by: sohami on June 17, 2010, 03:27:37 am
Alright, after giving it some thought, I think having the original eq monk epic graphic (the clear shruikens around the fist) but (if possible) changing the color, or making the particles be a lot more plentiful

probably would want to stick to keeping it as a weapon though, versus a "glove" like 1.0 is, because of the stat loss w/o weapons


Title: Re: Epic 4.0 Updates
Post by: PORTIS on June 17, 2010, 05:50:26 am
Suprised nobody asked the question I am thinking, though it was probably banded round /ooc.

Giz a look then!! What the stats?


Title: Re: Epic 4.0 Updates
Post by: Mirielle on June 17, 2010, 06:19:49 am
SHOW ME THE MONEY!!!!!   :)


Title: Re: Epic 4.0 Updates
Post by: Uxt on June 17, 2010, 08:34:00 am
So, lemme get this straight...

Warriors are already overpowered because they can tank and DPS better than any other class, and the aug slots on a 4.0 are guaranteed for them, but not any other class (for now)... AND they'll possibly get a new, better augment for their 4.0? Hopefully I'm reading this horrific favoritism all wrong. :P

Know what would really suck? If you tried to put an augment in your 4.0, and crash while using birdbath. Poof, gone.


Title: Re: Epic 4.0 Updates
Post by: ieawenpo on June 17, 2010, 09:00:05 am
So, lemme get this straight...

Warriors are already overpowered because they can tank and DPS better than any other class, and the aug slots on a 4.0 are guaranteed for them, but not any other class (for now)... AND they'll possibly get a new, better augment for their 4.0? Hopefully I'm reading this horrific favoritism all wrong. :P

Know what would really suck? If you tried to put an augment in your 4.0, and crash while using birdbath. Poof, gone.
I believe the 4.0 tweaks are far from done. I wont comment on any until the tweaks are finished.
I do feel your pain, just wait it out.


Title: Re: Epic 4.0 Updates
Post by: ieawenpo on June 17, 2010, 09:04:10 am
My bigger concern is the 2+ groups required to obtain it.
Certainly takes the EZ aspect out of the EZ server.
Would be nice for alternative progression for those who dont box 3 groups.
3.0's are at least obtainable by single groups and built that way.


Title: Re: Epic 4.0 Updates
Post by: Crabthewall on June 17, 2010, 10:11:48 am
My bigger concern is the 2+ groups required to obtain it.
Certainly takes the EZ aspect out of the EZ server.
Would be nice for alternative progression for those who dont box 3 groups.
3.0's are at least obtainable by single groups and built that way.

I'm afraid nothing in t3/t4 is really doable by 6, you have to step up to a guild or at least 2 groups to effectively do it. Most guilds/groups that have done it use 18+ even.


Title: Re: Epic 4.0 Updates
Post by: Xiggie | Stone on June 17, 2010, 12:14:02 pm
It is already ridiculous that warriors can out dps any other class, I really hope that doesn't become even more so with 4.0's. As it is right now, it is just a plain waste to have anything other than warriors and clerics in your group. I mean no disrespect to Hunter, but that lack of dynamics is ruining the rest of this wonderful server in my opinion.


Title: Re: Epic 4.0 Updates
Post by: Hunter on June 17, 2010, 12:24:53 pm
Warrior aug slots for 4.0 was for testing. I've confirmed that a weapon damage works up to about 255/256 damage then it rolls over. For example, I have a 300 damage weapon, but it shows 44 dmg and does a lot less damage than my 250 damage weapon. Seems obvious whats going on with that.

I might restore the type 4 and 8 aug slots on all the epics + add a 3rd aug slot + an all/all weapon proc damage aug that would hopefully close the gap between warriors and other classes for DPS. Just need to create and test it.

There is a typo on the Warrior 4.0 Turn in right now anyways, cause with all my copy/paste in the code, I did the SK twice and forgot to edit to Warrior ID. It'll be fixed soon.


Title: Re: Epic 4.0 Updates
Post by: Thyl on June 17, 2010, 12:31:56 pm
I haven't really looked at the EQ source code in a long time, is it filled with wonderful archaic space savers like using short ints and bytes?


Title: Re: Epic 4.0 Updates
Post by: Tylo on June 17, 2010, 01:47:08 pm
My bigger concern is the 2+ groups required to obtain it.
Certainly takes the EZ aspect out of the EZ server.
Would be nice for alternative progression for those who dont box 3 groups.
3.0's are at least obtainable by single groups and built that way.

lol, must be hard to have to actually play with another person and share loot with them.


Title: Re: Epic 4.0 Updates
Post by: Xiggie | Stone on June 17, 2010, 02:30:54 pm
Warrior aug slots for 4.0 was for testing. I've confirmed that a weapon damage works up to about 255/256 damage then it rolls over. For example, I have a 300 damage weapon, but it shows 44 dmg and does a lot less damage than my 250 damage weapon. Seems obvious whats going on with that.

I might restore the type 4 and 8 aug slots on all the epics + add a 3rd aug slot + an all/all weapon proc damage aug that would hopefully close the gap between warriors and other classes for DPS. Just need to create and test it.

There is a typo on the Warrior 4.0 Turn in right now anyways, cause with all my copy/paste in the code, I did the SK twice and forgot to edit to Warrior ID. It'll be fixed soon.


This is excellent news!


Title: Re: Epic 4.0 Updates
Post by: Eliseus on June 17, 2010, 03:00:28 pm
My bigger concern is the 2+ groups required to obtain it.
Certainly takes the EZ aspect out of the EZ server.
Would be nice for alternative progression for those who dont box 3 groups.
3.0's are at least obtainable by single groups and built that way.

lol, must be hard to have to actually play with another person and share loot with them.

Some skilled people can 2+ group box fyi


Title: Re: Epic 4.0 Updates
Post by: walk2k on June 17, 2010, 03:12:39 pm
Well, it's EZ server, not solo server.  I like grouping just fine, and I don't box.  What I don't like is not being able to GET a group, so yes I love the solo-ability of most of EZ, but I don't have a problem with grouping either.  I enjoy it actually - with the right group of people...


Title: Re: Epic 4.0 Updates
Post by: Sickem on June 17, 2010, 03:23:40 pm
My bigger concern is the 2+ groups required to obtain it.
Certainly takes the EZ aspect out of the EZ server.
Would be nice for alternative progression for those who dont box 3 groups.
3.0's are at least obtainable by single groups and built that way.
It's been said before...this is the E Z server...not Easy server :D


Title: Re: Epic 4.0 Updates
Post by: Reed on June 17, 2010, 04:37:16 pm
I assume Crab is the one who got his 4.0? Could we get a SS?


Title: Re: Epic 4.0 Updates
Post by: Crabthewall on June 17, 2010, 05:29:34 pm
I assume Crab is the one who got his 4.0? Could we get a SS?

I got a bunch of them, then Kaldar and I did a few more. I'll post screen shots of the ones I have soon.


Title: Re: Epic 4.0 Updates
Post by: ieawenpo on June 17, 2010, 05:47:52 pm
My bigger concern is the 2+ groups required to obtain it.
Certainly takes the EZ aspect out of the EZ server.
Would be nice for alternative progression for those who dont box 3 groups.
3.0's are at least obtainable by single groups and built that way.

lol, must be hard to have to actually play with another person and share loot with them.
Nah, no issues playing with others to share loot, I do it everyday.
Just saying 2+ well equipped groups to get an epic mob dead is definately not ez.


Title: Re: Epic 4.0 Updates
Post by: qualin on June 17, 2010, 08:24:39 pm
EZ server is easy when you compare it to live.  EZ server does not go without challenges though.  Who would want to play something where everything was easy?  Where would the challenge be?


Title: Re: Epic 4.0 Updates
Post by: Tylo on June 17, 2010, 10:07:08 pm
My bigger concern is the 2+ groups required to obtain it.
Certainly takes the EZ aspect out of the EZ server.
Would be nice for alternative progression for those who dont box 3 groups.
3.0's are at least obtainable by single groups and built that way.

lol, must be hard to have to actually play with another person and share loot with them.
lol ya, lots of skill to have your 3 rangers or melee dps assist and auto attack while the warrior whacks away and ur basically doing nothing but playing healerbot
Some skilled people can 2+ group box fyi


Title: Re: Epic 4.0 Updates
Post by: Tylo on June 17, 2010, 10:12:14 pm
My bigger concern is the 2+ groups required to obtain it.
Certainly takes the EZ aspect out of the EZ server.
Would be nice for alternative progression for those who dont box 3 groups.
3.0's are at least obtainable by single groups and built that way.

lol, must be hard to have to actually play with another person and share loot with them.
Nah, no issues playing with others to share loot, I do it everyday.
Just saying 2+ well equipped groups to get an epic mob dead is definately not ez.

Eh, i like the way EZ is setup but ive always thought it need an IP limit. The fact that it took so long into the 'raid' zones that a person actually had to have another person help them is a bit ridiculous. Now boxing 90% of the content alone is just the way its supposed to be done it seems.

But then again, i play this game to play with other people and get to know others from around the world(aside from the chatroom called OOC); Not turn it into my personal online single player RPG.


Title: Re: Epic 4.0 Updates
Post by: Reed on June 17, 2010, 10:54:09 pm
Oh yeah, forgot there wasnt any kind of timer or limit to just farming the 4.0's. brought me back to the 3-5 day waiting period on raid content heh....


Title: Re: Epic 4.0 Updates
Post by: ieawenpo on June 18, 2010, 03:48:20 pm
EZ server is easy when you compare it to live.  EZ server does not go without challenges though.  Who would want to play something where everything was easy?  Where would the challenge be?
Actually, I'm changing my thoughts on this.
With most of EZ being EZ, it may well be nice to see the challenge approach to 4.0's.
Personally, I am in a small guild that is likely not to reach 4.0 content so it may well be out of limits for allot of the server.



Title: Re: Epic 4.0 Updates
Post by: Akkadius on June 18, 2010, 04:34:24 pm
I'd have to say the Warrior 4.0 should have graphic IT10401 - Rallos Zek's Battleaxe 8 D.


Title: Re: Epic 4.0 Updates
Post by: ieawenpo on June 18, 2010, 04:38:05 pm
Actually, I would like the 4.0 ranger epics to be paladins.
Like, imagine walking into POD swinging two YES TWO Uxtalzon's by their ankles11!!!!111omgz

Yes, the image would be epic, sadly though... everyone would know that even 2 paladins wont match the old 3.0 ranger epics for dps.



Title: Re: Epic 4.0 Updates
Post by: walk2k on June 18, 2010, 05:16:37 pm
4.0 Ranger epic bow should shoot sharks with bees in their mouth.


Title: Re: Epic 4.0 Updates
Post by: Thyl on June 18, 2010, 06:44:41 pm

sadly though... everyone would know that even 2 paladins wont match the old rusty longswords for dps.



Fixed


Title: Re: Epic 4.0 Updates
Post by: ieawenpo on June 18, 2010, 11:45:28 pm
4.0 Ranger epic bow should shoot sharks with bees in their mouth.
LASERS ON THEIR HEADS111!!!!


Title: Re: Epic 4.0 Updates
Post by: Hunter on June 22, 2010, 11:05:16 pm
All Epic 4.0's were updated.

Slot 1: Type 4
Slot 2: Type 4
Slot 3: Type 8

Rouge is now 150 dmg
Paladin and SK is now 195 dmg
Berserker is now 201 dmg.

More updates coming soon.


Title: Re: Epic 4.0 Updates
Post by: ieawenpo on June 23, 2010, 12:15:58 am
no lasers?


Title: Re: Epic 4.0 Updates
Post by: Uxt on June 23, 2010, 06:47:59 am
All Epic 4.0's were updated.

Slot 1: Type 4
Slot 2: Type 4
Slot 3: Type 8

Rouge is now 150 dmg
Paladin and SK is now 195 dmg
Berserker is now 201 dmg.

More updates coming soon.

(http://www.hairstraightenersreview.com/graphics/yikes%20aguilera.jpg)

Thank goodness I'm a paladin. :D


Title: Re: Epic 4.0 Updates
Post by: swamphy on June 23, 2010, 01:00:14 pm
2 idea's for 4.0 graphics.

1. use fish. Can you just see those uber toons running around EZ server swinging fish? Paladin gets a swordfish, Monks get a tuna... take it from there.

2. Just make them BIGGER. Magnify the 3.0 epic to 1.5x or 2x and call it a 4.0. Bigger is always better right? Think of the first time you saw a toon running around with an over sized weapon. oh yeah.



Title: Re: Epic 4.0 Updates
Post by: Reed on June 23, 2010, 02:38:34 pm
2 idea's for 4.0 graphics.

1. use fish. Can you just see those uber toons running around EZ server swinging fish? Paladin gets a swordfish, Monks get a tuna... take it from there.

2. Just make them BIGGER. Magnify the 3.0 epic to 1.5x or 2x and call it a 4.0. Bigger is always better right? Think of the first time you saw a toon running around with an over sized weapon. oh yeah.



Seriously?...


Title: Re: Epic 4.0 Updates
Post by: Firetoad on June 23, 2010, 02:51:23 pm
2 idea's for 4.0 graphics.

1. use fish. Can you just see those uber toons running around EZ server swinging fish? Paladin gets a swordfish, Monks get a tuna... take it from there.

2. Just make them BIGGER. Magnify the 3.0 epic to 1.5x or 2x and call it a 4.0. Bigger is always better right? Think of the first time you saw a toon running around with an over sized weapon. oh yeah.



Thanks for the flashback, I can remember the first time I saw someone running with an obnoxiously large weapon; god that is fugly, what were the devs thinking, and I hope that is not a warrior aggro weapon.


Title: Re: Epic 4.0 Updates
Post by: zomgDanyelle on June 23, 2010, 04:59:51 pm
2 idea's for 4.0 graphics.

1. use fish. Can you just see those uber toons running around EZ server swinging fish? Paladin gets a swordfish, Monks get a tuna... take it from there.

2. Just make them BIGGER. Magnify the 3.0 epic to 1.5x or 2x and call it a 4.0. Bigger is always better right? Think of the first time you saw a toon running around with an over sized weapon. oh yeah.



1. While there are several items that can be used as weapon graphics most if not all of them are SoF/SoD only. Plus.....why?

2. You can't magnify the size of an item. Items graphics and their sizes relative to the races holding them are pre-set


Title: Re: Epic 4.0 Updates
Post by: swamphy on July 05, 2010, 09:54:47 am
2 idea's for 4.0 graphics.

1. use fish. Can you just see those uber toons running around EZ server swinging fish? Paladin gets a swordfish, Monks get a tuna... take it from there.

2. Just make them BIGGER. Magnify the 3.0 epic to 1.5x or 2x and call it a 4.0. Bigger is always better right? Think of the first time you saw a toon running around with an over sized weapon. oh yeah.



1. While there are several items that can be used as weapon graphics most if not all of them are SoF/SoD only. Plus.....why?

2. You can't magnify the size of an item. Items graphics and their sizes relative to the races holding them are pre-set


1. Was a joke. Sorry if my humor is a bit dry, I thought for sure you would spot that as a gag.

However it does present the idea of an April 1 or October 30th gag. Probly too much hassle to do it, but it would be a great gag to change the code for one day so that every weapon was a fish. Just my twisted sense of humor.

2. Didn't know that was not an option.

Cheers :)


Title: Re: Epic 4.0 Updates
Post by: Mirielle on July 05, 2010, 10:00:59 am
!.  Reminds me of the line from Dogma.
"What are you going to do?  Hit me with that.........fish?"


Title: Re: Epic 4.0 Updates
Post by: swamphy on July 05, 2010, 12:16:42 pm
!.  Reminds me of the line from Dogma.
"What are you going to do?  Hit me with that.........fish?"

Glad someone gets it.