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[swamphy]

Does guardian charm increase duration of buffs cast BY you or ON you?

[Isaaru]

By you.

[Firetoad]

Assuming Guardian affects Stonewall, you could just throw on Guardian, hit Stonewall, then switch to Sorcerer's.  Of course if you needed the higher tanking stats then you could leave the Guardian on.

Guardian Focus:
Slot 8: Limit: Combat Skills Not Allowed

Based on the above limit, Stonewall would not be affected.

[Isaaru]

Assuming Guardian affects Stonewall, you could just throw on Guardian, hit Stonewall, then switch to Sorcerer's.  Of course if you needed the higher tanking stats then you could leave the Guardian on.

Guardian Focus:
Slot 8: Limit: Combat Skills Not Allowed

Based on the above limit, Stonewall would not be affected.

Cool, thanks for clarifying.  I've never even looked at the restrictions.

[Balthor2]

I actually do not see any increase in duration of the buffies and clickies I use with guardians focus.
I dont care as I only wear it when I want hp.

[revloc02]

Can anyone post a sample of each kind of charm please?

And if anyone is up to it we really could use a more guide info on the charms. The Beginners Guide has some good stuff, but what I am wondering is which class should use which charm and why? And why do some people say you should have two kinds of charms? I gather that deciding which charm you should use depends on the role your toon plays, so info on which charm is good for what kind of classes playing a certain role would be good.

On the toons I play it would seem like I should do this:
Warrior = Guardian
Pally = Brawler
Necro = Sorcerer
Druid = Oracle
But then someone says that the Warrior should have a Sorcerer's Charm, which is counterintuitive really (I am not disagreeing with this I am just saying it is counterintuitive).

If some of you guys who know what you are doing could post which charm(s) your chars have and why (or what role they play for you) that would be very helpful.

Thx

[Loyal]

My warrior has all four as I am going to for the UC. However, I only use two.

Anytime i need additional AC/HPs or about to pop a disc I will toss on the guardian charm. Otherwise im wearing a sorcers charm as it increases my DPS immensely. This is due to anger augs IV and V are affected by the Sorc Charm.

Pally - I use oracle charm to increase their proc group heal.

[revloc02]

im wearing a sorcers charm as it increases my DPS immensely. This is due to anger augs IV and V are affected by the Sorc Charm.

Very interesting, now I understand that.

Pally - I use oracle charm to increase their proc group heal.

Fascinating...

[Ponzi]

Figured this could use a little bit of an update:

Keep in mind this reflects the new flavor of the month crafted DMG augments:

Oracle Charm: Paladins, Shadowknights, Clerics, Druids, and (if you're really bored) Shaman.

Sorcerer's charm: Warriors. Any Melee that can use Firestrike or Icestrike augs. If you're really hard up for entertainment, other INT casters.

Guardian's Charm: Your warrior is gonna need a 50 guardian and a 50 sorc ( and eventually both). You *might* consider tossing a little guardian love on, say, bards and beastlords to help them eat rampages, but even so, since both can use icestrike augs, you're still going to get far more return on using sorc's.

Brawlers : just say no.... Until they get a tweak, their haste component isnt working, and any form of strike through is laughable in terms of dps compared to unresistable procs that sorc upgrades amplify.

[krujo81]

I love my guardian 50 on my warrior the HP's are unbeatable by any other charm, you can go on and on about what fouce has what effect and witch is better for witch class. but the fact remains that there is 25k hp on the guardian 50 and only like 5k? on the oracle. and did you know the guardian charm has 30% shielding 125 avoidance 700 regen 50 stun resist?. to me id rather stock up on some monks with icestrikes with sorcers then farm them for my war. luckly i didn't have to the hallaween even provided me with 25 of them =)


ID laugh at all the warriors who got there sorc up to 25 or 50 with guardian charm under 15, IF hunter ever decides to remove or lower the damage from the nerd augs

[Ponzi]

yeah, my war has a 24 sorc largely by accident...

It's a chicken and egg scenario, really..  The higher the sorc charm on the warrior, the faster he can spam kill mobs to get the charms your *entire* box needs.

I guess that should have been in my post:

Children, farming augs with anything other than a warrior is just... slow.. Don't do it if you don't have to.

[walk2k]

Any hints or guides for charms past lv 25?  Where/who/how do you get the upgrades, etc?

[gimpy]

Farm avatars in HoH, collect the red magical gems.  Combine in your magic box:
2 red > orange
2 orange > yellow
2 yellow > green
2 green > cyan (combine cyan in magic box with charm upgrade, or spawn a t3 boss in poair)
2 cyan > blue (spawn a t4 boss in poair)
2 blue > purple (spawn a epic4 boss in poair)

[walk2k]

HoH = plane of gods?

so with a cyan you combine that with your current charm in the box?

[Gantrathor]

Yes, to both questions.

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