Most of the luclin quests are operational, dont see a reason why this wouldnt be.

i believe its being addressed, we have these threads every 3 days.
At least i hope its being addressed.

LOL

Perhaps introducing FG/CG items into zones that have level caps, there are TONS of lower end zones that are un-touched that can be capped and introduced.

Another problem with this idea is that FG/CG is technically at the point of progression between 2.0 and 3.0. I know this point is debateable but think to the first few characters you made on this server. Did you even think about FG/CG (or even know what it was) prior to being 70?

Good point.
We dont even hear about the FG/CG until you are 70 and running towards 2.5.
I dont know the solution, just giving ideas and the recent impression we had on new players.

Go wack tunare and let the script cause the zone to train you and loot as shit dies.
You can not clear the zone quick enough to actually kill tunare before stuff respawns.

Is this broken now? I went to PoGrowth to find out how quick i could make money in here. But nobody came when i smacked her.

Yeah its broken. On a reboot you can do it but it never resets after.

[Plinker]

Finally got it. All in all, not too bad, with the exception of the Knuckle Dusters. I know each quest line has a bottleneck, but man! While waiting in line one of the days, I saw Herbinger spawn three times in a row, and didn't drop the item. At least I think so. They're not Lore after all 

Shout out to Plinker from Slayer of the Slaw. Thanks for the Vox Staff! Sad that I had never seen that room before!

Quick question, though: Is there a portable buff available for the FG members, like the Caster Guild pets?

This is a nice post and perspective on the quest from a newcomer.

Coincidentally I was at the PGT camp yesterday and new to server BL was asking about the quest.

His comments were interesting as he said his biggest frustration was that every camp he attended that day had someone sitting their with their 3.0's that clearly didnt need these lower end items for progress.

I explained a million reasons why the FG/CG items were camped by such outfitted players but from his perspective, it was not enjoyable at all.

Not beating a dead horse but if the goal of the server is to grow and sustain then we should still be concerned with the newer experience on our server.

Perhaps introducing FG/CG items into zones that have level caps, there are TONS of lower end zones that are un-touched that can be capped and introduced.

Example, KD's can drop in Crystal Caverns from the last mob in the Spiders camp, place a level restriction on the zone of say 40 and you will have an interesting experience to those who are sick of Dulak.

i never found out why the KD's were where they are...warriors can't even get to the item by themselves... requires a rogue... its crazy!

All classes except bards/rogues cannot enter the temple.

Multiple people posted in the other thread they would rather farm stones than do ldon, in response to your comment that no one would do that. It tells me that people might indeed do that. Any person that is removed from ldon raises the odds exponentially also, same as adding one lowers it. Hence there is an exponential improvement by moving players out.  

True, and I stand corrected on people willing to try.
I believe the issue is balancing content available to end game players and still equally balancing the content for beginners.

I think if we implement 2 strategies we should at least make an impact on the progression.

Adding LDON 7-8-9 with same opportunities as 6 along with end game availability of HOH would suffice.

Much like the end game players get passionate about others making suggestions on content they have no experience with, this also works in reverse with lower end players suffering the decisions based from pure higher end experience.

The charm process is CURRENTLY absolutely painful to new players on our server, go through LDON and ask the players in the zone first hand.

You can average about 1 upgrade per 2 hours in LDON.  That's without pulling massive trains... (and if you can find anything to kill... hopefully the increased spawn rate will help there).   

So if you're uber geared and kill HoH faster than that, it will pull people away (the uber geared ones anyway...) if not, people will stay in Ldon.  I'm just saying, yeah it's a great idea, but there needs to be incentive to go there instead of Ldon (besides it just being overcrowded...)

Our server is moving at such a fast pace that the impact on these zones changes almost weekly.

In just the past 2-3 weeks we have seen LDON4 with sometimes up to 12 players looking to improve their oracle.
This is a direct result of the recent Pally upgrade and shows how quickly the effects of certain aspects of our progress effect other areas of the game.

Your former post on 2 hours per upgrade is unlikely today, there have been groups go through LDON this passed weekend that didnt see a single charm because the mobs just arent up. Remember, with ONE zone being opportunity for specific charms and if that zone gets 1 more player in it, the chances decrease substantially.

Look at LDON5.
2 warriors can clear the zone STILL with the increased spawn times.
The spawn time increases help, but no way is it a solution.

You need to make the drop rate higher there, since the mobs are harder you can't kill as quickly.  Otherwise people will stay in ldon.  If you make it an even harder insane grinde, again people will just stay in ldon...

At 64 to 128 stones per kill, that's plenty fast and maybe even too fast, that's 1 every few hours even starting out. Once you level up your gear you can kill in as little as a few seconds really which means it will fly - which I imagine is why hunter doesn't want to put the upgrades there since you can clear the whole zone easily in sub 2 hours with a single group.

No offence but we are looking at a near end game solution to a problem that effects the beginners.

Providing HoH opportunities to end game players barely helps the lower tiers.
Yes, I am aware that it "should" lessen the competition in LDON for charms, but, the competition in LDON is a huge part due to new players.

bump. ...


 I never really did qvic before this thread here but... I've noticed that sometimes mobs seem to hit really random, like sometimes I can tank them for 4-5 seconds and they do 0 dmg to me, other times it's off the charts... This is trash at zone in.  Yesterday on my ranger with about 22k hp I pulled a mob and it knocked me unconscious in the first round.... from full health!  Luckily I popped back up in time to get a heal (on SoD client HPs tend to bounce around kinda weird) but that's ridiculous.  Trash here should not be doing 20k+ per round.  I looked at the log and it looks like I got hit six times in an instant (sextuple attack??) all for 2800-3600.

Random is random.
Everyone gets a string of bad luck and good luck.
If you have misses on, you will see that they miss quite often, but, every once in a while the old RNG kicks in and wamo, you are dead.

Happens on every mob in the game.
HoH mobs can crit for 84k, mob rolls a lucky streak and you are pretty much dead no matter what.

Everyone has issues with bandwidth as it effects the entire server.
You sound irritated, did someone piss in your cornflakes today?

Hey now, lets not be so vulgar here ok.

You cant stop trolling can you?
Even after being warned repeatedly.

Right click -> Options -> Preferences: +EverQuest -> +Proflies -> Select a profile, enter a name for it, point the path to your EQ exe, turn patch off. Bob's your uncle.

I set a key close to my movement key to allow me to switch quickly between windows. In the space of about 3 seconds I can have all 6 of my characters attacking or what not. It's been fairly effective so far but I'm about level 55 on EZ server so far.

Well it figures, I said I never had problems with WinEQ2 and now the site seems to be down... bummer.

My only issue with wineq is it requires their servers to be online to work.

Budzwars chill out, cause I'm about to revoke your access both forums and in game, although rumor is you don't play here anymore anyways.

Please start a ban vote for the Budzwars, his addition to this thread are uncalled for, offensive, and are a violation of the agreement to enjoy this FREE service.

Grats on your first post.

You cant stop can you?

Man you are good to go. You are not holding it for an excessive amount of time and are actually doing the content at the level it was meant to be done.
Hell if I ran across you in there and you said you only had 20khp I would probably park my cleric there with you while you camped it and tell you jokes and shoot the shit.
Its not often you see true low lvl / low geared characters around anymore.

respect.
This.