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Title: Plane of Air crashing
Post by: Gnaughty on October 13, 2010, 02:36:37 pm
I wanted to reach out to the eqemu community for some help because a member of my guild from France as well as some others have had a problem.  They are experiencing crashes during fights in that zone, doesnt matter if its a T3,T4, or MCP boss they crash midfight.  Crab has even had this problem and we're all stumped as to why its happening.  The guildee from France his problem is especially strange because on every seventh boss he crashes like clockwork, well it used to be that way but since last week now its random and happening alot.  I know of one other member of our community who has lost several purple stones due to MCP fight crashes and that hurts.  I am not a computer wiz and I know Hunter does not have the time to tackle this issue so I wanted to appeal to some people out there such as Secrets or Akkadius to maybe figure this out?  PM me if you need additional information.  I dont in any way mean this as a rant, rather a problem I'd like to fix before the rest of the population gets to the T3 zone and start experiencing this themselves.  I has a big heart and have had these people ask me for help and guess what, Im a nursing major so I dont know jack shit about programming!  Have a nice one yall.


Title: Re: Plane of Air crashing
Post by: gimpy on October 13, 2010, 04:55:06 pm
I am seeing the same thing.  Zone crashed last night with the boss at 3%  : / 


Title: Re: Plane of Air crashing
Post by: Demin on October 13, 2010, 05:49:34 pm
I have had several crashed in Air, with no rhyme or reason.  Sometimes the fight goes well, sometimes it will crash at 50%, 6%, 95%....Just no pattern to it from my point of view. Also, has happened in both instance and public.


Title: Re: Plane of Air crashing
Post by: Uxt on October 13, 2010, 07:27:30 pm
It's never crashed on me, but I *only* fight T3 bosses with a limited crew.

I've only seen it crash on times when MCP or a T4 boss is up, which means the only difference are adds or death touch?


Title: Re: Plane of Air crashing
Post by: Gnaughty on October 13, 2010, 08:04:57 pm
You dont matter Uxt.


Title: Re: Plane of Air crashing
Post by: Tibador on October 14, 2010, 04:28:45 am
It crashes on t3-4 mcp with me with the same 6 man crew everytime so it has to be the zone and from what i can guess is it's either when someone is being rezzed in or a mob is aeing from what i can tell.


Title: Re: Plane of Air crashing
Post by: Balthor2 on October 14, 2010, 08:57:04 am
Its Karma you ugly gnome ;p
Love me a gnaughty!


Title: Re: Plane of Air crashing
Post by: Padme on October 14, 2010, 11:40:02 am
I dont think its linked with rez, because when i farm T3, i dont have any dead and it still crashing on the 7 boss   :-[


Title: Re: Plane of Air crashing
Post by: Uxt on October 14, 2010, 12:34:07 pm
You dont matter Uxt.

(http://4chanarchive.org/images/270510395/1283931853156.jpg)

That hurts, sir.


Title: Re: Plane of Air crashing
Post by: Gnaughty on October 15, 2010, 06:47:12 am
Traya its linked to you being French and I know you dont understand what I mean so Ill explain it to you in mumble on Monday.  Uxtalzon I am reading this at 4a.m and that piture made me laugh out loud and almost woke the wife, very freaky boy you are, very freaky.  Balthor come back and share in the bounty that is T4, traya is burning robes and tunics and doing all kinds of french stuff to it, miss you.


Title: Re: Plane of Air crashing
Post by: Camric on October 15, 2010, 11:09:33 am
I would like to add our experience regarding the crashes in PoA, specifically concerning MCP.

For the last two weeks we have made numerous attempts at MCP with limited success, trying many different configurations to mitigate crashes.  Below is a brief summary of the attempts.

20 crashes (or 1280 red magical crystals)
6 successes

Here are the adjustments made based on feedback from Hunter and other players capable of doing MCP.

+ All systems are updated with latest spell_us file
+ Reduce players to 18.  Still crashed (we only attempt it now with 18 or less).
+ Reduce players to 12 Still crashed ( 6 attempts resulted in crash every time)
+ Isolated one player to tank MCP for 30 seconds without group engaging - no crash even when both aoe's land on single player.
+ Some players have formatted systems and reload software from scratch
+ Used different players from outside of guild (i.e.  is it just me or does it matter)

Other observations:

While a single player is attacking/tanking MCP and even if the area of effects goes off, there is no issues.   However, once MCP is pulled to the main force for all to engage, the moment the spell "NPC packmaster Curse" hits the main force the zone crashes.

This is not conclusive evidence that the aoe is the reason for the crash, but just one area within the code to review.  Perhaps, others who are attempting can verify or disapprove the experience thus far.


Title: Re: Plane of Air crashing
Post by: Hunter on October 15, 2010, 12:10:35 pm
Yes, good info. Let me know if a certain spell crashes the zone. Maybe I'd need to modify, or remove a certain spell. I'm pretty sure Shout Kills work fine.


Title: Re: Plane of Air crashing
Post by: Blighton <Leader of Red Dawn> on October 15, 2010, 04:24:36 pm
I have also found issues while fighting MCP. Today however i was in T2 and Kronos spawned when i started to engage and as soon as "Packmasters Curse" hits it caused me to go LD/zone crashed. The issue has been tested many times and now i am very sure this spell is causing the problem.. If and when you fix/change this we will test it asap.



                      AKA
     Blighton My Goons Got Goons
          <Leader of Red Dawn>


Title: Re: Plane of Air crashing
Post by: Demin on October 15, 2010, 05:41:49 pm
How many people are you using to fight Kronos out of curiosity? I wonder if its that spell hitting over a certain number of people that causes the crash.


Title: Re: Plane of Air crashing
Post by: Blighton <Leader of Red Dawn> on October 15, 2010, 05:48:17 pm
I'm only using 6 character. 3 warriors and 3 clerics. it happens when MCP casts Packmasters Curse also. 12 to 18 characters on MCP.             






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     Blighton My Goons Got Goons
          <Leader of Red Dawn>


Title: Re: Plane of Air crashing
Post by: Gnaughty on October 17, 2010, 03:40:40 am
I think we need to call in the X-File team, or Batman and Robin or some shit.


Title: Re: Plane of Air crashing
Post by: funkinmofo on October 17, 2010, 03:52:11 am
I think we need to call in the X-File team, or Batman and Robin or some shit.

Lol

Guess they just need to find out if its 9768 NPC Packmaster's Curse II, or 9968 NPC Packmaster's Curse


Title: Re: Plane of Air crashing
Post by: xoltrek on October 18, 2010, 08:57:51 am
Last time i was fight with traya T4 boss.

I was playing solo box, and each time traya crashed i crashed too.
So multi box or not the zone crash.

Each time we crash during fight but one time we crash during zoning into guild instance. So maybe guild instance is bugged ? will be nice to try in the non instance zone to see if we get any crash ?


Title: Re: Plane of Air crashing
Post by: Camric on October 18, 2010, 10:16:58 am
All of our testing has been done in public.


Title: Re: Plane of Air crashing
Post by: Gnaughty on October 18, 2010, 10:17:07 am
Yeah the non instanced crashes too. :'(


Title: Re: Plane of Air crashing
Post by: Blighton <Leader of Red Dawn> on October 19, 2010, 12:53:31 am
Do any T4 mobs cast Packmasters Curse?


Blighton My Goons Got Goons
    <Leader of Red Dawn>


Title: Re: Plane of Air crashing
Post by: Padme on October 19, 2010, 01:58:34 am
I dont exactly remember the name, but yes, some are casting a curse, The Warlord cast a strong one  :o i will write them at next fight and post them :)


Title: Re: Plane of Air crashing
Post by: Skyte on October 19, 2010, 11:38:28 am
Some info to add,


Last night I was talking to Crab about the crashing and he said to try it without WinEQ. I told him we had lost to many stones and were just going to wait for a fix, so he offered to spawn it for us.

He ended up spawning 2 and we killed them both with no crashes, so we started spawning them on our own. What ended up happening is the 4th one crashed and the 10th one crashed.

So we are thinking that WinEQ has something to do with it crashing almost every time, 26 crashes, 6 kills vs. 8 kills and 2 crashes is huge.

We still think that there is something else that causes crashes, like 1 in 5 or 6, but we can live with that.

So wanted to say thank you to Crab for the info and the willingness to spawn them, and see if other people are using WinEQ there.

Skyte





Title: Re: Plane of Air crashing
Post by: Tibador on October 19, 2010, 03:44:24 pm
I dont use wineq and i still crash about every 10.


Title: Re: Plane of Air crashing
Post by: Hunter on October 19, 2010, 03:54:03 pm
I know people that use NO 3rd Party programs are having little to no problems crashing. Its gotta be a 3rd party program. As for waiting for a fix, I'm not one of the developers for the source, so could be waiting for ever. There are cheap fixes that could be done, such as if its determined if 1 spell is causing the crash, which I doubt though, unless a certain 3rd party program just doesn't like it. I'd have to verify it was the spell though. Try using no programs, just strait up EQ and see if its crashes.


Title: Re: Plane of Air crashing
Post by: Crabthewall on October 19, 2010, 03:58:48 pm
I dont use wineq and i still crash about every 10.

Yeah it seems to reduce the crashes way down though Tib - most of the people crashing are crashing way more often than 1 in 10. You could also be crashing based upon someone else in the zone crashing the zone because they have it loaded whether it be wineq or isboxer or whatever people are using. It could also be a custom ui component possibly or a non stock ini file those would also be things to set back to basic to see if the crashes reduce further.

No doubt multiple things are at the root - this one just seems to be at the root of the bulk of the crashes potentially. (not proven yet)


Title: Re: Plane of Air crashing
Post by: Aname on October 19, 2010, 06:02:39 pm
I think we need to call in the X-File team, or Batman and Robin or some shit.

MacGyver could fix it with a toothbrush and a hair pin if Hunter would let him have access to the server.


Title: Re: Plane of Air crashing
Post by: lerxst2112 on October 19, 2010, 06:47:40 pm

If the zone process leaves a core file when it crashes, it would be very simple to get a stack trace from that and possibly narrow the problem down and apply a code fix.


Title: Re: Plane of Air crashing
Post by: Tibador on October 19, 2010, 11:26:18 pm
Ill try running no third party tomorrow and see what happens.


Title: Re: Plane of Air crashing
Post by: Hunter on October 21, 2010, 05:01:01 am
I can try to swap out the spell with a reg dmg aoe and see if that helps. Will post update when it's done. I'm at work atm.


Title: Re: Plane of Air crashing
Post by: xoltrek on October 22, 2010, 06:30:51 am
Last time i was helping on T4 boss

I was playing only One char (my pal) and no Third party program.

And i crashed...

Maybe the people i help was using third program but we all crash.

So not using 3rd program and only one box get zone crash too.


Title: Re: Plane of Air crashing
Post by: Fugitive on October 22, 2010, 10:14:01 am
I've had so-so luck in PoA lately only 1 crash in last 15 or so..


I would like to just see a tiki equivalent placed on the islands and just hand cyan, blue, or purple to him to spawn vs spawning the current way;  then island becomes unavailable in instances and public

I think this would help instances too with the Available and non available.. lately its getting pretty crowded up there..


my 0.000001 cp

Fugitive


Title: Re: Plane of Air crashing
Post by: Hunter on October 22, 2010, 11:23:31 am
I need to revamp airplane script/quest to fix island timers. Plan to just 1 island since we now have instances.


Title: Re: Plane of Air crashing
Post by: Fugitive on October 22, 2010, 11:43:30 am
That's awesome Hunter, Thanks!!! ;D


Title: Re: Plane of Air crashing
Post by: Solbash on October 25, 2010, 08:05:48 am
Some stats from Sunday. Forbidden Prophecy spawned 6 MPC's and out of those the zone crashed twice during the first 10% on him. So we got 4 out of 6 on our first successful guild run.  :)


Title: Re: Plane of Air crashing
Post by: Wack on December 19, 2010, 11:04:00 pm
this needs to be bumped bc poair crashes all the damn time between this and HoH anymore only common thing is the AE ele root so dunno starting to really dread farming for armor anymore


Title: Re: Plane of Air crashing
Post by: Padme on December 20, 2010, 03:00:11 am
I m sorry to tell you that ... but airplane crashs and has been for over 6 months, so just learn how to play with crashes.


Title: Re: Plane of Air crashing
Post by: Balthor2 on December 20, 2010, 03:06:33 am
Should just move it to a classic zone thats not used and lock the zone like air is. Adjust custom zone porter and ring to go to the new location.
Airplane and PoP zones are unstable like a bridge troll


Title: Re: Plane of Air crashing
Post by: Hunter on December 20, 2010, 03:28:38 am
Any zone I make with big bosses with crash, cause people using 3rd party programs and/or AoE spells going off, etc. I've seen some pattern too with rezing so probably high end bosses shout killing then people rezing back, dunno. No definite answer yet to why they are crashing, but doesn't seem to matter which zone the bosses are put. With everyone using MQ2 with all those pluggins, and isboxer etc and all different clients from Titanium to SoD, can't figure out whats causing it.


Title: Re: Plane of Air crashing
Post by: Padme on December 20, 2010, 04:12:07 am
Yes i know its hard to figure why its crashing, no one can blame you, dont think that, several parameters ... many differents clients, i ve made a lot of test, with and without any third program, tried different configuration, asked many people to try to figure out, some people just never got any crash  ??? you made change in airplane to try to avoid crash and its still crashing, so people have to learn how to play with the crash and be patient until someone find the reason, its somewhere between our computer and airplane ...


Title: Re: Plane of Air crashing
Post by: Balthor2 on December 20, 2010, 05:13:04 am
Its frustrating for sure. Hunter has the players complaining and the players are annoyed with losing stones.
Myself I usually go six or seven bosses between crashes.
With a little luck a player will have logs on and stumble over the cause.


Title: Re: Plane of Air crashing
Post by: Crawford on December 20, 2010, 10:07:05 am
I think it has something to do with the root AE (or other various AEs) hitting too many people.  I used to take 12ish characters to do T3 back when I started.  I would periodically get zone crashes with 12.  Since I have progressed and my characters have gotten stronger, I have taken only 6 with me to do T3/T4 and I have not had a crash since.  Not one.  Therefore I think it has something to do with the number of people in the zone getting hit by AEs. 

Sadly that does not explain why I crash HoH with 6 sometimes.


Title: Re: Plane of Air crashing
Post by: Wack on December 20, 2010, 11:55:09 am
ya is the only thing I could think of is that its the AE root.. when  I crash in HoH I either crash on shadow or right after I kill shadow and im running away or When im killing earth. Then PoAir because every mob ae roots.. and learn to deal with it? I pretty much am otherwise I wouldnt be able to advance figured id bump this so maybe could get another look at it and maybe something will be spotted that was missed.


Title: Re: Plane of Air crashing
Post by: lerxst2112 on December 20, 2010, 03:39:16 pm

Is there anything at all in the zone logs that might help narrow it down?


Title: Re: Plane of Air crashing
Post by: Wack on December 20, 2010, 04:41:19 pm
not on my side the whole zone crashes not my clients so its not 3rd party programs which cause client crashes whatever is crashing the whole zone and only after you kill a few mobs in poair. anyway ya im done for a little while ill be around to chat but other then that this is just making me dread logging in any more. GL to you that need full t4 to get to t5 gonna be a long and bumpy road.


Title: Re: Plane of Air crashing
Post by: Solbash on December 20, 2010, 04:48:24 pm
not on my side the whole zone crashes not my clients so its not 3rd party programs which cause client crashes whatever is crashing the whole zone and only after you kill a few mobs in poair. anyway ya im done for a little while ill be around to chat but other then that this is just making me dread logging in any more. GL to you that need full t4 to get to t5 gonna be a long and bumpy road.
Mhmm, full T4 at current standings takes about 3 months to get, that's if you do nothing but farm stones and spawn bosses. I took a end game break as well and reverted back to single boxing to actually be able to enjoy playing again.


Title: Re: Plane of Air crashing
Post by: wachna on February 09, 2021, 02:15:03 pm
Hello everyone ..

After 9 years break I am back on EZ Server .. I got some chars ready for Abyss and wanted to get my airplane (Plane of Sky) armor and missing 4.0 Epics
But when I use the universal teleporter to airplane my game crashes ... and now I cannot get my chars back ...

I had the same with Abyss when I checked a few days ago, but after downloading the EZ Server Files it worked fine... but for airplane I dont know what to do?

I am using RoF2 client and got the latest EZ Server Files as mentioned above.

Please help ...


Title: Re: Plane of Air crashing
Post by: Ogru on February 09, 2021, 02:24:28 pm
I don't know why Airplane is crashing for you, but you can use the Character mover to get them out of that zone.

http://www.ezserver.online/charmove/


Title: Re: Plane of Air crashing
Post by: wachna on February 09, 2021, 03:01:24 pm
Ah wow thank you.. at least my characters are back in Nexus!

Should I install Titanium for the airplane zone files? Maybe they are working. At least they did 9 years ago


Title: Re: Plane of Air crashing
Post by: Ginge on February 09, 2021, 03:48:23 pm
You should really be running RoF2 client these days ..

Tank


Title: Re: Plane of Air crashing
Post by: wachna on February 10, 2021, 12:18:32 am
I am .. as i wrote: rof2 client and latest ez server files are installed


Title: Re: Plane of Air crashing
Post by: RedDwarf on February 10, 2021, 04:35:35 am
If you have RoF2 / updated spell files. It should be fine
There is no issue with airplane, so can only assume corrupted file(s)

I would re download RoF2 from the Getting Started link on the left
In case any other file is corrupt

1 thought I just had to try, target the teleporter and /say airplane
I know some of the say links crashed mine, although never had issue with the custom zone say links so still think it’s bad files

Red


Title: Re: Plane of Air crashing
Post by: wachna on February 10, 2021, 05:59:19 am
Ok I will try to redownload the rof2 files?

Where can I find the updated spell files? Maybe this will help me with my CoH problem on my mage aswell


Title: Re: Plane of Air crashing
Post by: RedDwarf on February 10, 2021, 06:35:02 am
Link on left column in red "EZ Server Files"

Just need the files from the ez dl folder, replace the ones in your eq main folder

Red


Title: Re: Plane of Air crashing
Post by: wachna on February 10, 2021, 06:44:53 am
ah ok ... thought those were only the updated zone files .. but ok ... I will download them again aswell :)

edit: It worked ... I dont know why, but with the newly downloaded files I can access Plane of Sky

Later today I will check if my Mage can finally memorize CoH again .. but for now I am very happy!

Thank you