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General Category => Berserker => Topic started by: Snajdan on October 15, 2010, 04:31:54 pm



Title: Why are Berserkers so Gimp?
Post by: Snajdan on October 15, 2010, 04:31:54 pm
Monks, rogues, rangers, warriors get dual epics, which are practically the same ratio as the 2handed berserkers weapon. Berserkers should get some sort of beefing up. Does Frenzy even work?


Title: Re: Why are Berserkers so Gimp?
Post by: Snajdan on October 15, 2010, 08:07:43 pm
Not to mention the clicky effect is broken as well. 550 pt dmg AoE (2.5)? Wtf?


Title: Re: Why are Berserkers so Gimp?
Post by: Xiggie | Stone on October 15, 2010, 10:24:38 pm
The 3.0 bz epic does 6k aoe dd none agro. If you want a duel wielding class play a duel wielding class.


Title: Re: Why are Berserkers so Gimp?
Post by: Snajdan on October 16, 2010, 12:46:37 am
At least let berserker weapons take into account that other classes dual weild aka buff it up a little.


Title: Re: Why are Berserkers so Gimp?
Post by: funkinmofo on October 16, 2010, 02:44:15 am
Well Hunter did recently add the new augs in the crafters guild to deal specifically with other class DPS. If he tweaked Berserker 2hd epics, then he would have to revisit Shadowknights and Paladins as well.

And I find that my Paladins 3.0 damage is consistent, it procs regularly and deals its DD. Pally is perfect for burning down adds from bosses. I can't speak for Berserkers or Shadowknights as I haven't bothered making one.


Title: Re: Why are Berserkers so Gimp?
Post by: Snajdan on October 17, 2010, 03:23:24 pm
Pallys and SKs get to use a shield, dont have to relate them to berserkers. Please up the damage for zerks.


Title: Re: Why are Berserkers so Gimp?
Post by: Fugitive on October 17, 2010, 03:28:39 pm
I made a zerker once..

was shocked...

logged off...


and now he is dusty.

/the-end


Title: Re: Why are Berserkers so Gimp?
Post by: Expletus on October 17, 2010, 06:23:47 pm
Pallys and SKs get to use a shield, dont have to relate them to berserkers. Please up the damage for zerks.

!??! Really ??!?!


Title: Re: Why are Berserkers so Gimp?
Post by: Soakked on October 17, 2010, 11:03:15 pm
The 3.0 bz epic does 6k aoe dd none agro. If you want a duel wielding class play a duel wielding class.

Ummm no it doesn't. This has already been covered http://ezserver.online/forums/index.php?topic=761.msg10720#msg10720


Title: Re: Why are Berserkers so Gimp?
Post by: Isaaru on October 17, 2010, 11:52:44 pm
If he tweaked Berserker 2hd epics, then he would have to revisit Shadowknights and Paladins as well.

Far from true, have you seen how terrible Berserkers are in comparison?


Title: Re: Why are Berserkers so Gimp?
Post by: lerxst2112 on October 18, 2010, 12:31:31 am

Hunter did ask for DPS parses from various classes a couple of weeks ago when he said he would be balancing.  How many were posted?  Zero.


Title: Re: Why are Berserkers so Gimp?
Post by: Snajdan on October 18, 2010, 01:32:06 am
Must have missed it. Ill gladly post my 3.0 dps.


Title: Re: Why are Berserkers so Gimp?
Post by: funkinmofo on October 18, 2010, 01:43:43 am
If he tweaked Berserker 2hd epics, then he would have to revisit Shadowknights and Paladins as well.

Far from true, have you seen how terrible Berserkers are in comparison?

I only meant that if he tweaks Ber, he will have to revisit SK and Pally to see the differences in raw DPS. I know that with my pally my 2hd damage is decent as it is. I fully agree that Ber need a boost to 2hd dps and realistically they should be able to dish out far more DPS compared to a pally who has group heal proc and SK who have aoe and self heal.  (And i saw that Hunter made the aoe unresistable).


Title: Re: Why are Berserkers so Gimp?
Post by: Isaaru on October 18, 2010, 11:42:59 pm

Hunter did ask for DPS parses from various classes a couple of weeks ago when he said he would be balancing.  How many were posted?  Zero.


I also replied to his post stating he is the best person to test the number because he is likely the only person who can setup perfect scenarios with the EXACT SAME gear setups.

Balancing and testing is part of running a server...  I hope...


Title: Re: Why are Berserkers so Gimp?
Post by: lerxst2112 on October 19, 2010, 12:15:14 am

But you have to realize that he has limited time and might not know all of the best gear for dps.  If players don't participate when asked then he'll stop asking and nothing will get fixed.


Title: Re: Why are Berserkers so Gimp?
Post by: Isaaru on October 19, 2010, 03:47:43 pm

But you have to realize that he has limited time and might not know all of the best gear for dps.  If players don't participate when asked then he'll stop asking and nothing will get fixed.


I don't have to realize anything; the reason I'm so critical in all my responses is because I am a server admin myself.  I know how long it takes to do certain things and the extent of his power.  Setting up and parsing DPS wouldn't take him long at all.  And it's not like DPS gear is complicated on this server, there's one real choice per class per tier.


Title: Re: Why are Berserkers so Gimp?
Post by: lerxst2112 on October 19, 2010, 05:05:39 pm

*shrug*  The opportunity to give input is there.  If you choose not to use it then that is your decision.