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Title: Warrior and monk dps lowered?
Post by: Ronny68 on November 26, 2010, 11:57:44 pm
Hey was warrior dps lowered? My warrior lost somewhere between 3 and 4k dps.  Same goes for my monk, his highest crit is now under 5k where with the Crab FU spell he crit higher than that much higher alot.  The monks dps fell at least 5k dps and this is with a 15 min sample using Gamparse.


Title: Re: Warrior and monk dps lowered?
Post by: krujo81 on November 27, 2010, 12:07:34 am
just proc rates were slightly altered due to svc update witch were broght back up quite a bit but dont think it is all the way back to where it was


Title: Re: Warrior and monk dps lowered?
Post by: Ronny68 on November 29, 2010, 05:21:08 am
Oh this is awesome I always wanted to figure out a way to stay in HoH much longer.  That red stone grind is just too fast for me.  ::)

Getting stuff done in 9 hours instead of 6 hours is mmm good.


Title: Re: Warrior and monk dps lowered?
Post by: Camric on November 29, 2010, 05:23:06 am
Not sure about monks, but you can see the parsing done for warriors here.

http://ezserver.online/forums/index.php?topic=1323.msg17223;topicseen#new (http://ezserver.online/forums/index.php?topic=1323.msg17223;topicseen#new)


Title: Re: Warrior and monk dps lowered?
Post by: slaughterhaus on November 29, 2010, 11:58:59 am
I don't believe its a simple matter of augment proc rates alone. I've seen the warrior decrease, Sk epic proc resists, fire aug resists, in addition  I've seen a large decrease in my ranger dps as well (non augs on his bow). I was seeing 20k plus crits with 3.0 and TS and now 17k at best. I do not have a parse to back this up but I can say after 10 hours of hoh yesterday his dps is much lower.

Has anyone noticed this?

Deadend


Title: Re: Warrior and monk dps lowered?
Post by: Gnaughty on November 29, 2010, 12:39:58 pm
Yeah slaughter most of the people I know have agreed that some weird stuff has been done with resists and dps.  Was a major nerf that makes halls of honor that much longer.


Title: Re: Warrior and monk dps lowered?
Post by: Xiggie | Stone on November 29, 2010, 01:50:15 pm
I don't mean this as an insult to Hunter, Basher, Secrets or anyone at all.

This happens from time to time. When the server was updated from 0.7.0 to 0.8.0 there was a change made to ac that caused melee dps to go down considerably. Heh, coincidentally I think it was an overall 30% reduction. This was not speculated at all. This was confirmed by Trevius. This to my knowledge was not done on purpose but was an unintended result of updating. Then haste took a several months ago. It came with an update or something, I don't remember. At that time my haste was 129%, haste cap from items is currently 125%. The way haste works, haste from my brawlers didn't work at all because it was over cap. It reverted to my next highest haste item which was T2 bp at 70%. That was again approximately a 30% reduction in damage. Again, that is not speculation as I have parses before and after the accidental haste nerf. Now we have another update and yet another melee nerf.

Again, I mean no insult to anyone when I say this. This is just an acceptance of reality. There was nothing done about it when ac changes were made, there was nothing done about it when haste was recapped and there will likely be nothing done about this.


Title: Re: Warrior and monk dps lowered?
Post by: Gnaughty on November 29, 2010, 02:47:13 pm
Gawd that sounds so final and menacing Xig.  Hmmmm ???


Title: Re: Warrior and monk dps lowered?
Post by: Xiggie | Stone on November 29, 2010, 02:56:35 pm
Lol, it's true man. It would be awesome if it wasn't, but unfortunately it is.


Title: Re: Warrior and monk dps lowered?
Post by: Apology on November 29, 2010, 03:11:51 pm
Isn't that something to celebrate if you don't care for the current DPS hierarchy? :)


Title: Re: Warrior and monk dps lowered?
Post by: Xiggie | Stone on November 29, 2010, 04:56:48 pm
If you can clap all the way through a T3 fight, go right ahead. Personally I think to balance casters and melee casters should be beefed up, not an overall nerf on the melee.


Title: Re: Warrior and monk dps lowered?
Post by: barrettd04 on November 29, 2010, 07:06:28 pm
Maybe the unforeseen side affects of the update will cause more people to group up and take stuff down...would be refreshing.


Title: Re: Warrior and monk dps lowered?
Post by: Xiggie | Stone on November 29, 2010, 07:27:08 pm
6 toons is 6 toons whether they are played by individuals or 1 person. And before you say you can get 2 people of 6 making 12, I can do that right by myself also. The effects are going to be the same whether people group up or not. That is irrelevant to the point.


Title: Re: Warrior and monk dps lowered?
Post by: Balthor2 on November 29, 2010, 09:30:33 pm
Maybe the unforeseen side affects of the update will cause more people to group up and take stuff down...would be refreshing.

Yea... ok.
Not to be rude but that is just goofy thinking.
Everyone that gets to t3 ends up creating their own box set to grind on their own. Lots start out with "just a warrior" or box a couple of toons but end the end it becomes 6-12.

Heck it would be nice I know but I havnt seen something like that happen since right before T3 came out.


Title: Re: Warrior and monk dps lowered?
Post by: Apology on November 29, 2010, 10:40:34 pm
Quote
Heck it would be nice I know but I havnt seen something like that happen since right before T3 came out.

Design an encounter that requires more than turning on auto-attack and waiting.
Make people move, so you can't just 13-box it.

:)


Title: Re: Warrior and monk dps lowered?
Post by: Xiggie | Stone on November 29, 2010, 11:45:07 pm
That would be very very nice.


Title: Re: Warrior and monk dps lowered?
Post by: Gnaughty on November 30, 2010, 12:18:19 am
 Now that would be fun, to be in a real raid we me and the boys that would rawk.  As long as I have Uxtalzon rezing my deaths, I can achieve anything. ;)