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Title: Are WARs and PALs OP? Vote away!!!
Post by: Moriah on December 04, 2010, 04:55:13 pm
Now let me make it CLEAR that I don't want nor expect things to change!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Let me ALSO make it CLEAR that the point of the poll is NOT a poll about nerfing these classes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm just simply asking: As is, are both of these classes OP and do they make other classes NOT viable?  I am simply curious as to the common opinion of whether others also think/feel they are OP or not.

Also feel free to comment all you want but please vote! :D


Title: Re: Are WARs and PALs OP? Vote away!!!
Post by: Mechules on December 04, 2010, 05:01:15 pm
Why do you want to know if you don't want anything changed? You don't want either one nerf'd or altered in any way..... so you made a public poll?

I think you already know the answer. This is more an /ooc question than a thread-worthy poll.


Title: Re: Are WARs and PALs OP? Vote away!!!
Post by: Smoka on December 04, 2010, 05:05:32 pm
Everyone knows Warriors are overpowered. Paladins are only strong currently due to their proc. If you lower the proc rate, that effects everyone across the board and it will just make everything worse.

My SK is strong due to his proc rate as well, only he benefits himself and not the group. If something were to change to nerf the proc rate, I would be very upset.

Personally, I would moreso look for ways to enhance other classes than bring more attention to the obvious overpoweredness of a few classes. Yes, that's why everyone plays them, hell that's why I have made a few myself.

/Shrug, it's just the same old argument, repackaged in a poll format.


Title: Re: Are WARs and PALs OP? Vote away!!!
Post by: Apology on December 04, 2010, 05:51:51 pm
You're asking a forum of players who predominately play warriors and paladins if those classes are overpowered.
How about next time you go into a bar and ask around about the merits of not drinking, or go to an NRA meeting
and ask if guns are safe.

You also don't define what overpowered means. Every player will come here with their own varying definition.
It's not even clear there is a relationship between being over-powered and the other classes being useful, as you
suggest, since the current content without paladins and warriors would be nigh impossible.


Title: Re: Are WARs and PALs OP? Vote away!!!
Post by: Thebone on December 04, 2010, 06:00:22 pm
I want to know how far in the game are you??? Qvic Tav or hell Ldon.. Cuz i know if you are t3++ then you will never think warriors and pallys are op... find out whats in the game before you post..


Title: Re: Are WARs and PALs OP? Vote away!!!
Post by: Ponzi on December 04, 2010, 06:09:15 pm
If it wears plate, it's useful.

If it doesnt wear plate, it's on /stick to loot rots.

Welcome to EZ server. The sooner you understand this, the sooner you're gonna be able to sleep at night.


Title: Re: Are WARs and PALs OP? Vote away!!!
Post by: Camric on December 04, 2010, 07:29:17 pm
The warrior and paladin class are not overpowered, the remaining classes are simply underpowered and in need of improvement.  Checking the forums you will see comments from Hunter about the other classes getting enhancements in future updates.



Title: Re: Are WARs and PALs OP? Vote away!!!
Post by: Gnaughty on December 05, 2010, 02:26:18 am
Gawd these people make me cry.  :'(


Title: Re: Are WARs and PALs OP? Vote away!!!
Post by: Balthor2 on December 05, 2010, 02:30:53 am
Seriously Gnaughty.
Stop asking for class X to get nerfed because your enchanter is next to worthless.
Instead come here and make a post with ideas to improve teh_sux classes.


Title: Re: Are WARs and PALs OP? Vote away!!!
Post by: Blighton <Leader of Red Dawn> on December 05, 2010, 02:40:45 am
I BLAME GNAUGHTY       I BLAME GNAUGHTY        I BLAME GNAUGHTY     I BLAME GNAUGHTY      I BLAME GNAUGHTY!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Are WARs and PALs OP? Vote away!!!
Post by: krujo81 on December 05, 2010, 02:59:32 am
lol ur everywhere with that


Title: Re: Are WARs and PALs OP? Vote away!!!
Post by: barrettd04 on December 05, 2010, 08:26:14 am
Seriously Gnaughty.
Stop asking for class X to get nerfed because your enchanter is next to worthless.
Instead come here and make a post with ideas to improve teh_sux classes.

Dude what are you talking 'bout, my chanter pwnz.


Title: Re: Are WARs and PALs OP? Vote away!!!
Post by: Gnaughty on December 05, 2010, 10:02:09 am
Bastards


Title: Re: Are WARs and PALs OP? Vote away!!!
Post by: Balthor2 on December 05, 2010, 07:45:52 pm
I luv my enc.
I remember when I use to charm the warrior and shadowknight guild master and make them duel each other.
Shame Hunter thought it wasnt funny and made them immune to charm.
Those were the days.
Or you could put him next to the practice dummy and he would agro anyone that attacked the dummy.


Title: Re: Are WARs and PALs OP? Vote away!!!
Post by: Spuds on December 05, 2010, 10:12:06 pm
lmao

when everyone plays a warr/pal combo there gonna vote there not overpowered. I play a warr/pal/pal plus sham,rang,mnk,druid,sk,rog,cler. But my meat and potatoes are my warr/pal combos. Thats how this game is played you combo the best players you can to either role play, get a ton of gear, both or whatever. Before palys were viable everyone played war/war/cler/cler so it just depends on when a class may be retuned. I currently like the way the server is honeslty most caster classes are boring and dont need to be as viable as other classes.


Title: Re: Are WARs and PALs OP? Vote away!!!
Post by: Fabdibikya on December 06, 2010, 08:44:42 am
I'm in the process of making an ench/mag/bl/cler/wiz/ranger group.

I'm rather sure I can hit at least up to PoD, possibly even HoH with them - Well, that is, unless a lot of those classes get nerfed to bits.

Maybe someone should start exploiting with pets so Hunter disables all the pets for the pet classes?


Title: Re: Are WARs and PALs OP? Vote away!!!
Post by: Xiggie | Stone on December 06, 2010, 10:38:12 am
Your enchanter will be largely unused, your mage and bst pets will get you killed when you encounter mobs that summon adds as they will stay on the main mob. Even if you switch them to adds just as soon as the main mob ramps your pets will go back to the main mob. Your wiz will take up too much of your time with casting and your cleric will end up tanking because you have no strong agro pull. Without help you will start hitting brick walls in BoT.


Title: Re: Are WARs and PALs OP? Vote away!!!
Post by: Zartaxis on December 06, 2010, 01:12:24 pm
There was a change log in July that said pets no longer take rampage damage.  Is that true?  Also where do the enchanter pet spells drop?  I Think I saw one in qvic off of the sand monster.


Title: Re: Are WARs and PALs OP? Vote away!!!
Post by: elricward on December 06, 2010, 05:24:07 pm
I for one would hope that the other classes are brought up to a more playable level but class balancing is an issue in even the most well played and popular MMO's. No matter how hard Hunter tries...there's always going to be complaints about one class or another.

As is currently stands yea, pallies have insane survivability and that only goes up when paired with a war at least up to T2. As it stands now, pallies make the perfect boxer class...low micromanagement for heals...does it make the game easy to a point, yea...but then that's why alot of us joined a server with a giant EZ in the name.


Title: Re: Are WARs and PALs OP? Vote away!!!
Post by: wrxBRAH on December 06, 2010, 07:06:55 pm
The way I see it the other classes are very viable but it sucks trying to play them effectively while boxing.