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Any chance we can get a tweak to the RNG on page drop rates.
Some times I get 2 or 3 in a row from a section but its really rare.
I usually average 4 or 5 clears to get one page.
Its why I am constantly in /auc wtb pages.
I think its a unnecessary bottle neck.
When I can destroy all of HoH before respawns and do it several times a day I think its gotten to the point where 3.5 bottle neck should just go away.

I hope others on the server will voice support for increasing the drop rate on pages.
At the very least consider making 1 avatar for each type (2 for hell) set to have 100percent drop rate for a page.

Just like every other epic page dropping NPC in the game I should be able to walk the avatar section and have a finished epic each run.

It's what 5% now with RNG.. that's like - 80%...

I could see it set to 20% or so..

just my 2c that's never worth much anyway..

100% would be much.. still need that ahh-haa moment on this treadmill

Yea I wouldnt want 100percent drop rate on every mob but if only 1 mob per avatar was going to drop it every spawn.
Thats still a mob on a 2hr respawn so not OP

Just got a tell in game saying shadow should drop a compleated book.
I like that and wish it was the case.

Ya not sure what its set to atm either but do agree would be nice for it to be raised if its at 5% then 20-25% would be nice.. I don't get why we went from 3.0 completed book to.. Oh now you need pages for 3.5.. But wait now 4.0 you get the whole book again. lol

Well, with the upcoming shadow change.. a low level guild attempting to get a shadow book could turn into a long time sink to run around clearing to him after he steps over and over again..

Maybe a complete book would be the solution.. don't know just brainstorming some..

what ya think?

4 to 5 clears per page?
i rarely go more than 2 clears without getting a page drop
earth or skies i some times go 3 clears but that is because there are less mobs
and i have been farming hoh non stop since he put pages in there

drop rate is fine imo

Hmm that's something I had not thought about and agree with.
If he steps to any area other then the one you just cleared into it makes his fight stupid long.
Not everyone is willing to redo their group of characters to be able to maximize killing speed, then go charm farm them up.
A completed 3.5book would be perfect for the work.

I was going to write an angry post of how you're being very singleminded. Instead I'm opting for passive-aggressive. If your only solution for Shadow relocating is clearing, then you should consider learning a bit more about your non-warrior classes' abilities.

Drop rate upped would be nice, having one mob drop 100% would be nice, having Shadow as he is now drop completed 3.5 is not nice, having new Shadow drop completed book is nice.

Really, I can clear all of HoH before respawn, Balthor can clear HoH before respawn, that's not the issue.... didn't you see that in the above posts... but you would rather be "passive aggressive" WTF does other classes abilities have to do with KILL all the MOBS  =  NO PAGE drop!? I'm confused just like  your post..


Clearing 2 -4 times and not getting a complete book is blah... lots of stones but still blah..

thank god I'm done with 3.5s

Its an open post where I called for people to post opinion on it and you want to come in here and feed some shit about "opting for passive-aggressive"
I dont do passive agressive I tell it like it is and you sir are a major freaking retard. In fact you may just make Tromi look intelligent.

Re-read my posts and listen up to the /ooc next time

pwnt 2x

Stupid rage was aimed at the whining about Shadow being changed and how that was going to affect your Shadow kill. My apologies to those who got offended and/or confused by it.

I agree that HoH could do with a better system of pages, as it now takes a truckload of time to finish. I agree that putting a complete book on Shadow is a good idea, but I wouldn't do it before Shadow raid has been changed, as Shadow itself right now is very easily doable and would create a massive influx of 3.5's, basically making 3.5 the new 3.0 - which I don't think is a good idea before t5 is being explored.

I currently on my third clearing of Underworld for a page for an alt.  I think 5% is a bit low, but i don't think it needs to be more than 10%.

Lower level pages don't take an hour because they're pages, they take an
hour because they're lower level content done by vastly over-geared characters.

Applying your reasoning to armor sets, one can conclude that a full set of T4
should take you two days  because thats how long it takes to get all your QVIC gear.

Try doing a 1.5 epic with 1.0 geared characters and you'll find getting your book
takes about as long as the HOH content.

End game content has had its drop rate changed numerous times.

Apology, your comparison actually proves our point - yes, doing a 1.5 with just 1.0 characters takes a long time too, but if you do a full time run you *will* have all of the pages. Not so with HoH, where it takes a complete clear of the entire zone several times with multiple doubles to get all the pages you need for just one character.

If you compare the time required for a full 1.0 group to do 1.5 once to the time required for a full 3.0 group to do one 3.5, I think it's obvious: You can do a 1.5 in one sitting - not so much for 3.5.
(and before you jump on the 1.5 is ez rofl, same counts for 2.0 and 3.0 - done in one sitting with a group that was intended for it to be a challenge for). 2.5 is obviously a different story.

If your problem is that you believe a 3.5 takes more time to complete than a 1.5, when gear is equal, then you're greatly mistaken,
and probably have very weak reading comprehension and merely glossed over my last post.

If your problem is not the time it takes, but that it isn't guaranteed (ex: 2 hours), and is a statistical variant instead (ex: 1-3 hours?),
then I fail to see how this issue is significant. At all.

If you really believe in this tripe, however, feel free to get together a group of BOT geared players
and complete a full potimeA run substantially faster than a 3.5 takes.

If it's so fast I'm sure you won't mind doing it to prove your point.

edit: all of this is assuming that each new epic (3.5, 4.0, 5.0) should take about the same time to
achieve as the ones before it, which seems nonsensical to begin with.

A full group of bot players can definitely take trash in time, meaning they have access to potime gear. Gemcutter and Lincei are also easy enough to take down, which leaves you with a full 1.0 time geared group - if you have 2 pals 2 wars mage and cleric, you're set to do time in less than a few hours.

Which is less time than some people do to get even one page, and they're not even low-geared.

I consider this an issue.

If you insist, I will PM you the names of 4 characters that I'll make from scratch, you can PL them to 70 and I'll get them sorted in BoT gear, and I'll time how long one 1.5 run will take with 4. (I'd ask you to PL them since I don't have any dru/sham available atm, if you can't wont and anyone else would like to do this (FOR SCIENCE!), pls pm)