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I am a noob to EZ, so go easy on me.  I did 25 levels or so in a few hours last night and got to wondering how far can you solo on EZ?  I am a ranger if that makes a difference.

Look forward to learning as I go, thanks :)

Iae

I was wondering this myself.

As I said in another thread, when I played live all those years ago, I never really hit the endgame, so a lot of the stuff people are talking about goes over my head.

The levels of some of people's stats is amazingly staggering.

Hopefully though I won't be soloing forever!  ;D

When you hit BoT... it might be harder to solo named... trash aint too bad (not at 60 though, more like 65+).  So I guess BoT is where it starts to get a little hectic. so probably 60 would be time to group up unless you have issues before that

On the other hand.. if you were a Paly, I would have said after Field of Bone, if you survive it, you will need a group!  ;D

Poor Pallies..... Hunter is going to get so sick of hearing this that he is going to make them insanely super powered. LOL!

More like when you get to Dulok. I would know. That's where I am stuck at.

only named should be a problem solo in Dulak under 55

Quigli is red to me at 58.  I didnt check any others.

I would be ok with this

It's somewhat class dependent.  Most melee classes will hit a wall at some point, though I don't know where that is cause I never solo'd my melees.

I've never tried a wizard.

Pet classes can solo all the way to 70 because the caster can heal the pet during the fights.  With my mage I was soloing almost exclusively until I needed King Cards from LDoN for the CG quest.  Getting them with points was possible but would have taken a long time.  Any soloing beyond that, while possible would have been impractical.  For 1.5, 2.0, 2.5 quests I made some friends and we all helped each other do the epics.

Qvic is the first zone where soloing is simply not an option for any class. (without gear far above what drops in qvic)

So, if you're going to play one toon at a time, you'll want to start making friends among others who do the same.  If you multi-box, you can go clear to the end game

unfortunately you are right, even with gear above Qvic a pet class wont be able to solo Qvic. Their pet would get killed to quickly.
I would say melee wall is also Qvic, maybe a bit sooner. LDoN or PoTime even.
Melee becomes far superior to casters once they hit T1 and T2+

I kinda disagree with melee being superior to pet class. Proper use of pet guard and pet hold and flipping the mob with your mage/bst/necro and you can still very much so compete with melee class. As for bosses that spawn adds, nothing can really compete with area taunt on a warrior, but pet class still out dps's any melee class most of the time. A closer statement would be that one has advantages where another doesn't and vice versa.

Dude im not being rude but you're wrong as hell :P maybe that stuff works in ldon/time but wont work in qvic+....yes pets do nice dps and have decent HP..their damage mitigation is garbage...they get crushed...ranger can do as much or more dps than a bst pet and take a lot of dmg and a warrior with sorc charm like lvl 20+ will outdps/tank anything atm

Your kidding me right? Do you want me to come solo trash in qvic with my mage to show you? I have seen bst solo trash in PoD as well. As for aoe damage, well I guess you right about that, because you could pull an infinite amount of mobs and always get more damage that way. However if you want to go with aoe damage then a zerker would prolly out dps them all because of the 6k aoe instant dd. As for a ranger out dpsing a 3.0 pet, I don't have a ranger so I don't know what changes have been made since last I looked at them.

To say it again, you can solo in qvic with your 3.0 pet if you do it right.

Right on a bit of that and wrong on other parts.  Pet mitigation sucks hard.  They eat rampage a lot and die faster than melee dps but nothing in the game out damages a bst pet (non-disced at least but even with discs probably not).  I am going to post log results of  fighting Magni in t2.  I like to use that fight because after Thur is dead magni summons no adds and is a straight fight which is easy to check dps on.

War has 21 sorc charm and 4x AE augs.  Ranger is 3x3.0 with mossy V augs and qvic arrow and quiver.  Pets are similarly buffed with all class buffs and bst and mage pet are focus enhanced by 1 lvl each.  The war had a few seconds of attacking at the beginning which is why his total is higher than the ranger but his dps is lower.

In order of damage:
Beast pet  730k total  11,405 dps
Mage pet  438k total   6,845  dps
Warrior     318k total   4,739 dps  about 250k of that was AE aug damage.  
Ranger      298k total  4,800 dps
Necro pet  268k total  4,192 dps

These numbers are pretty standard to what I get on t1 bosses also.

Incidentally I completely agree that pet melee mitigation sucks bigtime. And you know what, I am glad it does, it should. You get the benefit of high dps and the downfall of low mitigation. It is a good and proper trade off. Using pet guard and pet hold as well as flipping the mob if you have the hp for it really helps out though. Believe it or not, even mage mitigation is better than the pet mitigation.

Well im saying melee, more towards tank side, is superior.
Pets get mashed by flurries and AE dmg from PoD+ mobs. not to mention the huge dmg mitigation gap + HP difference.
A tank full T2 with RoA 100 and lvl 50 charms will have around 180k ish HP? and 5kAC.
Even if a warrior does do the great DPS on that solo mob, he will be able to kill it without taking much dmg at the end. Meaning faster/ more consistent pulls, where as a pet would have downtime inconsistently through their killing time.
I haven't seen pet classes solo PoD trash, so i can't really agree or disagree with anything on that end.

It makes me feel sad when I see a BST pet steamrolling mobs twice as fast as my mage pet.  Oh, and beastlords can actually take a hit without dieing.  Oh and they can heal.  /wrists

Ok back on topic!

Think I soloed a warrior up till time... After that needed help on the nameds there, at least the tougher ones; could still survive solo in some first 3 LDoN floors, but it was very slow killing, one mob at a time.

 HOORAY for beastlords!  OK yeah i made it to Plane of Time before i hit the real struggle and could no longer continue alone without a box help.

  Scootz

i solod all the way to your moms house jk xD.

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you can solo all the way to max level easy with any class.. even enchanters.. lol

if you are stuck in dulak try using the lvl 1 clicky invis helmet and running around collecting your self some better gear. rots n named rots are common in dulak watch /shout etc..

remeber in surefall to buff your self before heading out.. buff then quicky hail custom zone npc n get to the zone ur going.. invis up to where you are grinding it can be very quick

and remeber to skip velks.. and go to pofear..

on all my toons i was able to kill in dulak at lvl 35 so far with no twink gear or buffs

there is also a post somewhere here with what zone drop what type gear so you can gear as you lvl

once you hit 70 look for some friends or slowly grind ur gear up to solo or box

I play SK and soloing is getting easier. Made 70, crap gear BoT stuff. Help with 1.5 from a friend, started soloing low LDoN gear gets better (cards/charms) made 2.5 eventually. Had some help with qvic bosses and rot tokens, friend helped with 3.0 TT. Now everything changes, I easily solo all time and ldon so can plev alts to MoW with decent gear. Next thing is see if I can solo qvic, but waiting on a bit more decent gear. Maxed AA now, got guardian charm to 5 and oracle to 2. This, and I think unless I get really good gear prior, is the problem. Qvic bosses pop adds, a Warr holds the advantage for AE dam so an equivelant equipped warr can solo the bosses I probably cant. But to cut a long story short, I think soloing is possible quite high end. Correct me if I am wrong but the best way seems to be,

Make a main, kit him to a good quality, put all your time and effort into him.

Then make an alt/s using the main to equip


Then try the high end soloing once you have a little team, make your main something that can Tank Warr 1st choice, SK second, Pally 3rd.. if soloing is your bag.

I am working on an SK, Cleric, Ranger team.. Seems a good option, good tank high dps with heals.

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Why do I see another Paladin dig in our near future?  :P

Xiggie you are wrong chief :( you arent soloing qvic with a pet class unless its a monster beastlord...def not a mage or necro...nothing would survive the boss enrages...grats your pet can solo qvic trash...a necro pet solos qvic trash...my necro pet with heals can solo PoD trash...talking about bosses :P your pet cannot tank against a boss in qvic+

Yes beastlord pets are excellent dps...when they are alive...im not tryin to knock beastlords...i have a beastlord..hes awesome...Just in T2 a lot of times he would die and my rangers be my main dps focus...they were always more dependable...safe and steady dps

In my post it says solo'ing trash, not bosses. In my post it says nothing beats warriors ability to area taunt for tanking the bosses. As for bosses in T2 I use my pet all the time. Occasionally my pet might die here and there but usually only if I make a mistake. Put the mob on the backside. 30k base hp + 20k from weps plus buffs and you should stay alive through ramps, unless your healer forgets to heal.

I fully acknowledge that pets can not tank bosses qvic+. No where in my post did I even insinuate that a pet could tank bosses, especially bosses that spawn adds.

Well then my mistake...sorry sir :P

Prophecy.

If you qualify 'soloing' as how many one person can box solo, then you can take almost the entire content of the server 'solo'. :)

That's how I look at it. I never have to rely on groups to progress.

This is an old post, I just resurrected it to point out the Pally changes. Cool to see things like that progress.

Looking at the OP, a person new to EZ probably hasn't considered boxing multiple toons yet. So It I think it's safe to say the original question is:

How far can my one toon solo on this server before I am forced to find groups or box more toons?

For my monk,  PoTime was the wall I hit. Then I got some help getting 1.5's and 2.0's which let me solo PoTime more, but I needed 3.0's to solo PoTime bosses.

I couldn't quite do BoT bosses solo either come to think of it, until I got 1.5/2.0's

Also depends on what you consider soloing...
- You can make it to POTIME soloing.
- You can make it past POTIME with one character, but you will need help from others and this is still a huge option on EZ.

There are a TON of players on the server that play 1 toon and progress. Yes, its a slow grind for plat for help or even using some of the one-box guilds. But in the end, they still have 1 player.

I see players all the time with dual 3.0's that just grinding it out helping others and getting help at the same time.
It wouldnt be easy though as the game itself is not meant to really solo.

Im pretty sure Necros can solo up until at least Qvic. That is one person playing one toon without grouping.

I've seen them killing T1 trash solo as well.

Yeah, you can solo POD trash with a 3.0 necro, but, getting the 3.0 definitely wont happen soloing.
You wont get beyond the potime trash let alone the 1.5 bosses, books and beyond.

Actually when I first started my war I grouped with a necro who could kill the Time bosses with pre 1.5 pet. The fights were long, he just had to heal pet.

He was basically able to kill all the way until the 2.0 boss who is pretty difficult to solo because of the adds.

When I started I played warrior + cleric and made it to potime trash, LDON trash. Lacked the DPS to kill the BoT named, potime named or ldon named.
Cleric would run out of mana trying to heal me.
Add 1 monk and I was able to do time minus DS and ldon minus 6.
With the changes to a paladin if you did not want to box at all that is a class to play.

If you're going strictly solo, SK might be one better.

I'm still new to this server, so take my opinion with this in mind, but I found that my Pal with the epic 1.0 coudl take on red stuff easily even 50+, just because the proc on the epic is self sufficient to heal himself (and in many case the 2/3 bots that piggy tail him).

now this may not be possible above 60, but I wouldnt now, he is only 58 at the moment :D

I'd be curious to see some DPS parses for a 3.0 pally & sk with equal charms (guessing even the sk would go for oracle charms).

Spell damage shouldn't really factor in because in the time it takes to cast a spell for either class you are reducing your chance to hitting another proc.

I think that the pally 3.0 had its dmg raised not all that long ago if I remember correctly.  I don't think that happened for the sk.

In either case I'd go with Balthor's suggestion.  This is because once you decide to box you already have the pally you would otherwise want to make.  

I'll try to look for a parsing tool, but just from playing both of them at the same time, I can see that my Pally's DPS is easily higher than my SK's, even though my SK has far greater gear. The only time my SK can kill faster is if I'm swarm killing and using the epic and it doesn't get resisted lol

I made a pally.  With compete crap gear (he still had "newbie" in some slots) and epic 1.0 I could solo time trash, one at a time anyway.. adds were a bit of a problem but I didn't try that hard, could probably do some CC with root/etc..  I'm sure he could do Time bosses too, they are extremely easy, just have a lot of HPs.. would probably take forever but I could do it, if I could get there...  Not Dragon Slave or Quil/Terror though.  I can also solo LDON trash, bosses are another matter, though with some more gear and AAs they might be doable.