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Title: What are YOUR computers spec's that you 6+box with? looking for advice
Post by: Nexxel on February 26, 2012, 03:54:49 pm
OK, As the title says, I'm looking for what harware/software that people are USEING to box.

I was reading the Video card problem thread and it had some good info but not enough to answer my question. I have read over at The MMO boards but there were to many games to stsytem specs,  so i figures id ask here what people are ACTUALLY using that works.

I need a new machine as mine died a while ago and playing on a ol E-machine isnt cutting it past 3 toon's. So, What I'm looking for is what are your machines specs: procesor, Ram, video card and your OS. and How Many toons are you running. I see most of the guys pushing T5 are all running a solid 6 and there are some that are pushing 12 (2 groups).

And Thanks in advance for taking to the time to answer..  ;) Daddy wants to go shopping..


Title: Re: What are YOUR computers spec's that you 6+box with? looking for advice
Post by: MacofMacs on February 26, 2012, 04:05:33 pm
Amd Phenom IIX4 2.3 ghz quad-core processor
6gigs of ddr2 800 ram - Random Access Memory
Asus m3n78 mobo
BFG GTS 250 1024mbddr5 memory
350gigabyte hard drive
500 watt psu
windows vista 64 bit ultimate

Can easily box 12 but I'm about to make a computer with a 3.6ghz quad-core processor msi gtx550ti 1024mb video card 16gigs of ddr3 1333 memory 750watt psu and a 1tb hard drive so I can box 16+ also gonna convert my windows vista 64 bit to windows 7 64-bit ultimate


Title: Re: What are YOUR computers spec's that you 6+box with? looking for advice
Post by: Nexxel on February 26, 2012, 04:08:01 pm
What is the video card your running on the machine your using right now?


Title: Re: What are YOUR computers spec's that you 6+box with? looking for advice
Post by: Noel on February 26, 2012, 04:13:52 pm
Intel Core 2 Quad 6600 2.4Ghz
8GM DDR 2 ram
Gigabyte EP35-DS3-R
ATI Radeon 4870 1GB
160GB Intel SSD
1TB Seagate 7200RPM
1TB Seagate 7200RPM
650w Antec PSU with active PFC


Title: Re: What are YOUR computers spec's that you 6+box with? looking for advice
Post by: Xiggie | Stone on February 26, 2012, 05:12:04 pm
i3 2120 3.3
8GB DDR3 Ram 1333
Intel BOXDH67BLB3 LGA 1155 Intel H67 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard
Nvidia GeForce GTX 260 896mb
4 Sata HDD
500 watt psu
W7 64

Have room for another 2 ram sticks so getting another 8gb in a couple of weeks. Aside from the video card and the psu I got all that plus a new case for just under $300 from newegg.


Title: Re: What are YOUR computers spec's that you 6+box with? looking for advice
Post by: nopulse on February 26, 2012, 05:22:21 pm
Part list permalink (http://pcpartpicker.com/p/57bs) / Part price breakdown by merchant (http://pcpartpicker.com/p/57bs/by_merchant)

CPU:  Intel Core i5-2500K 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor (http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80623i52500k)
CPU Cooler:  Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (http://pcpartpicker.com/part/cooler-master-cpu-cooler-rr212e20pkr2)
Motherboard:  ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3 ATX  LGA1155 Motherboard (http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asrock-motherboard-z68extreme3gen3)
Memory:  G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory (http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gskill-memory-f314900cl9d8gbxl)
Hard Drive:  Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (http://pcpartpicker.com/part/seagate-internal-hard-drive-st3500413as)
Video Card:  XFX Radeon HD 6870 2GB Video Card (http://pcpartpicker.com/part/xfx-video-card-hd687xcnfc)  
Case:  Cooler Master HAF 932 Advanced ATX Full Tower Case (http://pcpartpicker.com/part/cooler-master-case-rc932kkn5gp)
Power Supply:  Corsair 750W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply (http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-power-supply-cmpsu750txv2)
Monitor:  Asus VH236H 23.0" Monitor (http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-monitor-vh236h)

Since I just built it, I just copied the generated table code. I use W7 x64 and have loaded up 10 with ease. I'm sure I can run plenty more and this system is really overkill. I'm prepared for this year's releases though! On another thought, if anyone wants to build a pc, I HIGHLY recommend pcpartspicker.com :)


Title: Re: What are YOUR computers spec's that you 6+box with? looking for advice
Post by: nopulse on February 26, 2012, 05:24:32 pm
Also, if you box a large amount and use multiple monitors to accomplish this like I do, I recommend going with a higher amount of VRAM to handle the multi-monitor setup. If you only use a single monitor, then VRAM isn't really as important.


Title: Re: What are YOUR computers spec's that you 6+box with? looking for advice
Post by: Griz on February 26, 2012, 07:26:44 pm
I run a Phenom II 1100T with 8 gigs of 1600MHz ram, and a SSD. My video card sucks, it's only an 8800GT, but EQ can't benefit from any video card made in the last 7 years anyways.


Title: Re: What are YOUR computers spec's that you 6+box with? looking for advice
Post by: Nexxel on February 26, 2012, 07:40:51 pm
Ok, with the statement about the video card, what is more importanat with running more instances, IE more toons with EQ. More HP ie proccesor, more ram, or a high end better video card?


Title: Re: What are YOUR computers spec's that you 6+box with? looking for advice
Post by: Xiggie | Stone on February 26, 2012, 07:51:21 pm
Going with my current setup I can load up 2 groups and use about 12% of my processor and about 80% of my ram. Of course it spikes when I zone or when I am loading but my ram is by far my lacking.


Title: Re: What are YOUR computers spec's that you 6+box with? looking for advice
Post by: Lexington on February 26, 2012, 08:21:07 pm
My computer has issues when zoning on multiples as well.  Here's a pic with specs.
  • 50MHz, dual cycle clock with a 8 bit buffering - thing blows your mind on 3.1 start up. 
  • Custom 32bit data and address bus with interchangeable 72 tor 32 pin SIMM.  Allowing me up to 4 gigabytes of memory to be directly addressed.  Talking straight 32 linear thinking!

A voodoo3 card really tightens it down on this machine as the polygon and sprites are unmatched when it comes to a VGA connection!
(http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/1411/nec386sx1.jpg)

Gonna upgrade asap


Title: Re: What are YOUR computers spec's that you 6+box with? looking for advice
Post by: Xiggie | Stone on February 26, 2012, 08:40:57 pm
My computer has issues when zoning on multiples as well.  Here's a pic with specs.
  • 50MHz, dual cycle clock with a 8 bit buffering - thing blows your mind on 3.1 start up. 
  • Custom 32bit data and address bus with interchangeable 72 tor 32 pin SIMM.  Allowing me up to 4 gigabytes of memory to be directly addressed.  Talking straight 32 linear thinking!

A voodoo3 card really tightens it down on this machine as the polygon and sprites are unmatched when it comes to a VGA connection!
(http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/1411/nec386sx1.jpg)

Gonna upgrade asap

It is because you have no mouse pad. .25c and you're all fixed up.


Title: Re: What are YOUR computers spec's that you 6+box with? looking for advice
Post by: Lexington on February 26, 2012, 09:49:52 pm
that's a optical bro ;)


Title: Re: What are YOUR computers spec's that you 6+box with? looking for advice
Post by: Xiggie | Stone on February 26, 2012, 10:01:02 pm
lol


Title: Re: What are YOUR computers spec's that you 6+box with? looking for advice
Post by: Noel on February 27, 2012, 11:14:25 am
Ok, with the statement about the video card, what is more important with running more instances, IE more toons with EQ. More HP ie processor, more ram, or a high end better video card?
CPU and RAM. Around a gig (plus or minus) of RAM per toon. With CPU it is a little tricker - newer CPUs can handle more toons per core. With older processors - one char per core seems about right. So for example someone said they have Quad Core 2500K - this will run 8-10 chars, while my Q6600 Quad core runs 6 without too much trouble but running more would  be problematic.


Title: Re: What are YOUR computers spec's that you 6+box with? looking for advice
Post by: Xiggie | Stone on February 27, 2012, 12:57:53 pm
I have run 9 easily and loaded up 12 with an Intel Pentium Dual E2220 @ 2.40GHz. That is a processor rated 1379 whereas the Q6600 is rated at 2966. With enough ram you should be able to load up 12+ on that processor.


Title: Re: What are YOUR computers spec's that you 6+box with? looking for advice
Post by: nopulse on February 27, 2012, 02:05:50 pm
Yea essentially boxing multiple instances of EQ is different from most games because most of them don't require a great deal of RAM or VRAM (video RAM) at all but when you run more and more instances of EQ, it eats it right up.


Title: Re: What are YOUR computers spec's that you 6+box with? looking for advice
Post by: Noel on February 27, 2012, 06:10:49 pm
Xiggie - I don't go all minimalistic when i load my chars. I don't turn off every effect and don't mess with NPC models...


Title: Re: What are YOUR computers spec's that you 6+box with? looking for advice
Post by: Hurley on February 27, 2012, 06:43:19 pm
How does everyone load their chars to make sure they are set on minimum settings but the main char is set to max settings. Do you have two separate clients you load or can you simply make two shortcuts and have one max settings and one minimum to reduce box lag?


Title: Re: What are YOUR computers spec's that you 6+box with? looking for advice
Post by: Kwai on February 27, 2012, 10:18:28 pm
You use two folders.  One launches a max settings UI and the other folder contains a link to a stripped down UI.


Title: Re: What are YOUR computers spec's that you 6+box with? looking for advice
Post by: Hurley on February 27, 2012, 10:39:26 pm
So I would copy the entire everquest folder and make a duplicate, and launch the eqgame from the duplicate and strip it down while the original folder remains max settings?


Title: Re: What are YOUR computers spec's that you 6+box with? looking for advice
Post by: Xiggie | Stone on February 27, 2012, 10:56:56 pm
Xiggie - I don't go all minimalistic when i load my chars. I don't turn off every effect and don't mess with NPC models...

Even still you would run out of ram way before you ran out of processor. I just loaded up 6 toons on my full global, new models and all. Using about 90% of my ram and about 25% of my processor. Granted my processor is stronger but even with the E2220 I was running about 65% idle and about 90% if I zoned everyone at once. That processor is a hell of a lot slower than yours. Your processor should not be maxing out with 6 toons, even if you zone them all at the same time while running minecraft and 15 browsers in the background. Ram on the other hand, yeah, a fat global will run you out of ram at 6 toons.


Title: Re: What are YOUR computers spec's that you 6+box with? looking for advice
Post by: Xiggie | Stone on February 27, 2012, 10:57:53 pm
Btw, that was 25% max, if I am doing nothing it flows down to as low as 15%.


Title: Re: What are YOUR computers spec's that you 6+box with? looking for advice
Post by: Chunka on February 28, 2012, 07:22:14 am
Using an A3850 on a Gigabyte GA-A75M-UD2H board....16 gig corsair ram, a Crucial M4 CT128M4SSD2 2.5" 128GB SATA III for some key programs, and for the OS (Win7 64). Seagate Barracuda ST3000DM001 3TB 7200 RPM drive, Corsair HX750 power supply. Using a 2 gig 550 ti card.


Title: Re: What are YOUR computers spec's that you 6+box with? looking for advice
Post by: Digz on February 28, 2012, 12:41:37 pm
heres a pic of my rig, my list of components is entirely too long since i built the thing from scratch but the notable peices are 2 gtx 570s i7 950 o/c'ed to 4.3ghz, 12gigs of ram and um, an intel x-25m ssd

(http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/2162/img0115fo.jpg)


Title: Re: What are YOUR computers spec's that you 6+box with? looking for advice
Post by: Nexxel on March 01, 2012, 11:21:35 am
I apreciate all the feedback guys, i Have been outa the computer scene b4 dualcores came out (bout 5or6 years) and AGP was the best for Grafx cards, so this info has helped ALOT.

I have no real intention of playing any of the new games comming out, so EQ is my old addiction and with eqemu its something i can start and stop if i want. When i did play if your wanted to 2 box you had 2 computers, 3 toons 3 computers. So its kinda nice to be able to go this route.

Now time to go shopping, and though it looks like new eggs is cheaper, i like to support my local comp shops as long as they dont try and shaft me.

So, hi ho hi ho off to the shop i go!  ;D



Title: Re: What are YOUR computers spec's that you 6+box with? looking for advice
Post by: Slyminx on March 01, 2012, 11:21:47 am
Each of my chars has it's own folder with files. So no interference from multiple processes trying to access the same file and arguing about it.

Q9660, 4gigs of 1ghz ram, windows 7 professional x64, gigabyte ep41 mobo, nvidia gtx 560 ti oc, 250gb SSD for system and 1 TB stripped and mirrored main hard drive.

I can load about.. 12 toons without noticing any weirdness.

I'm getting 8gigs when I can find a Mushkin reseller in my country.


Title: Re: What are YOUR computers spec's that you 6+box with? looking for advice
Post by: Xiggie | Stone on March 01, 2012, 12:26:08 pm
How are you loading up 12 characters on 4 gigs of ram? And what is "4gigs of 1ghz ram"?


Title: Re: What are YOUR computers spec's that you 6+box with? looking for advice
Post by: Nexxel on March 01, 2012, 01:08:20 pm
Well, so much for support your local shops.  :-\  Price is about 36% higher, but worse is they said they didnt have what i wanted or anything clsoe and would order it have it in about a week or so :o.



Title: Re: What are YOUR computers spec's that you 6+box with? looking for advice
Post by: Hurley on March 01, 2012, 01:21:40 pm
Most local shops will unfortunately be a little higher in price. There is a Microcenter not too far from my house and they actually have very good prices on some things, cheaper than newegg sometimes. However, if you have no clue what you really need they sometimes have a good tech guy, but it depends on the place. I ordered half of mine on new egg and the other half im buying from the store.


Title: Re: What are YOUR computers spec's that you 6+box with? looking for advice
Post by: Digz on March 01, 2012, 01:22:55 pm
honestly, if you're buying a new computer i would highly highly sugest you BUY AN SSD! they are dirt cheap now adays, you can get a 80-90gb drive for under $100 which is all you need to install windows and a few games. The difference you'll notice in just about everything from response time to loading times will really blow you away compared to traditional hard drives.


its easily the best upgrade you can do for your computer other then cpu/gpu upgrades.

and yeah i cant see 12 toons on 4gigs of ram, i couldn't even do 12 when i had 6 gigs of ddr3-1800 in my system...


Title: Re: What are YOUR computers spec's that you 6+box with? looking for advice
Post by: Hurley on March 01, 2012, 02:06:04 pm
Everyone else told me that as well, so I went out and got a 64gb SSD for windows, EQ and a couple other things. Going to be building my computer tomorrow so ill be back in action for probably sunday with radically better speeds. I went from a store bought HP with a geforce 8500gt and 2gb ram to a beast with a geforce gtx 550ti, 16gb ram with an SSD and a i5 2500k. Used to be a struggle to run 5 toons, now it should be an absolute breeze.