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General Category => Bard => Topic started by: Mattnaik on October 04, 2012, 09:54:52 am



Title: twisting including weapon
Post by: Mattnaik on October 04, 2012, 09:54:52 am
Is there any know way to use the Bards weapon within a twist? The MQ2 documentation for the twist is lacking.


Title: Re: twisting including weapon
Post by: Nexxel on October 04, 2012, 11:06:20 am
Use 10 as the twist number, thats the bards primary hand. 11 is secondary.


Title: Re: twisting including weapon
Post by: Mattnaik on October 04, 2012, 11:15:11 am
Awesome thanks!


Title: Re: twisting including weapon
Post by: Mattnaik on October 04, 2012, 12:09:47 pm
Figured it out.

Just for the record, this needs to be configured in the ini. twisting 10 will only do your mainhand if you configure it to do so in the ini.



Title: Re: twisting including weapon
Post by: Fumor on October 04, 2012, 02:13:54 pm
what do the lines in the ini look like after being configured?


Title: Re: twisting including weapon
Post by: Mattnaik on October 04, 2012, 02:53:58 pm
[Click_10]
CastTime=4
ReCastTime=600
Name=DISABLED
Slot=13

This will basically make 10 a valid song.

So basically it would look like this:

/twist 1 2 3 10


Slot 13 is your mainhand slot according to this chart:

http://www.macroquest2.com/wiki/index.php/Slot_Names



Title: Re: twisting including weapon
Post by: Adydar on December 03, 2012, 09:51:55 am
I know, old post, however, anyone know how to reliably have it switch weapons?  I have 4.0 x 2 on my bard and use twist to do the 3.0 click, however, without fail, after some generally short period of time, the bard ends up using the 4.0 and 3.0 with the second 4.0 in his inventory.

Perhaps an alternative, drop the mana dump on the 3.5+ and change it to a stronger version of the 3.0 clicky, having it scale up?


Title: Re: twisting including weapon
Post by: Lexington on December 03, 2012, 10:08:12 am
the 4.0 click increases mana/endurance of everyone around them (players) it's a dramatic increase- this is mainly for casters as my wizard, mage, chanter, and cleric are generally running on 40% or lower mana during extended fights. (45 seconds +)
 It also helps for my melees too cuz I burn disciplines like they're going out of style it's the only way to go! :)



Title: Re: twisting including weapon
Post by: hateborne on December 03, 2012, 10:48:41 am
I know, old post, however, anyone know how to reliably have it switch weapons?  I have 4.0 x 2 on my bard and use twist to do the 3.0 click, however, without fail, after some generally short period of time, the bard ends up using the 4.0 and 3.0 with the second 4.0 in his inventory.

The 3.0 click is really not that powerful. It is nice, but as far as I remember, the enchanter 4.0+ SympatheticProc effect gives a larger bonus. The Bard 5.0+ click is rough though. One Man Band is sexually delicious.


Perhaps an alternative, drop the mana dump on the 3.5+ and change it to a stronger version of the 3.0 clicky, having it scale up?

No, this will not happen. Too many of us are reliant on this click to handle fights or certain situations (myself included).


-Hate



Title: Re: twisting including weapon
Post by: Digz on December 03, 2012, 01:23:11 pm
I know, old post, however, anyone know how to reliably have it switch weapons?  I have 4.0 x 2 on my bard and use twist to do the 3.0 click, however, without fail, after some generally short period of time, the bard ends up using the 4.0 and 3.0 with the second 4.0 in his inventory.

Perhaps an alternative, drop the mana dump on the 3.5+ and change it to a stronger version of the 3.0 clicky, having it scale up?

i have both my bards setup to do exactly this. He uses 2 4.0s and when it comes times to refresh the buff, he automatically puts on the 3.0, casts it and then automatically puts his 4.0 back on. ill hook you up with the macro when i get home from work. i do remember it being a complete pain in the ass to setup but when it was done, it worked flawlessly.

and as far as how strong the 3.0 epic click is..its worth about 10-15% dps and i assume you get around the same gains for HPS (since it helps heals crit as well). i havnt played in the last few months so i dont know what other alternatives that hate is speaking of for the song as i havnt looked at any new enchanter or bard epics since i started playing again


Title: Re: twisting including weapon
Post by: Mattnaik on December 03, 2012, 01:30:18 pm
I would like to see that script as well. I still have my 3.0's but will be getting 4.0's any year now.


Title: Re: twisting including weapon
Post by: Digz on December 03, 2012, 01:42:57 pm
when i started messing around with the mq twist on my bard, i would crash every time it came time to swap in the 3.0 and cast it with the default settings. eventually i got it so that he equipped his 3.0, casted the buff but never re-equipped his 4.0. i eventually figured out that it was because of the values set for casttime, recasttime & delay that was causing problems, memories a little hazy since its been about half a year since i set this up but im fairly sure thats how things went.

anyways most i can do is post my mq2twist config and the macro which is pretty much the same thing that Mattnaik said, just gotta have the timing right in the ini or you'll likely crash

MQ2Twist_CharacterName.ini should look like this:

[MQ2Twist]
Delay=33
Quiet=0
Adjust=1
[Click_10]
CastTime=20
ReCastTime=600
Name=Blade of Vesagran Epic 3.0
Slot=offhand
[Click_11]
CastTime=0
ReCastTime=0
Name=Blade of Vesagran Epic 4.0
Slot=mainhand
[Click_12]
CastTime=0
ReCastTime=0
Name=DISABLED
Slot=DISABLED
[Click_13]
CastTime=0
ReCastTime=0
Name=DISABLED
Slot=DISABLED
[Click_14]
CastTime=0
ReCastTime=0
Name=DISABLED
Slot=DISABLED
[Click_15]
CastTime=0
ReCastTime=0
Name=DISABLED
Slot=DISABLED
[Click_16]
CastTime=0
ReCastTime=0
Name=DISABLED
Slot=DISABLED
[Click_17]
CastTime=0
ReCastTime=0
Name=DISABLED
Slot=DISABLED
[Click_18]
CastTime=0
ReCastTime=0
Name=DISABLED
Slot=DISABLED
[Click_19]
CastTime=0
ReCastTime=0
Name=DISABLED
Slot=DISABLED


after that the command /twist 10 1 2 3 should work fine. You only need click_10 for it to work, i have 4.0 under click_11 so i can use /twist 11 for mana buff as well.

HOPE THIS HELPS!


Title: Re: twisting including weapon
Post by: Adydar on December 04, 2012, 10:41:45 am
Great, that looks promising.  I will definitely give it a try.


Title: Re: twisting including weapon
Post by: Lexington on December 04, 2012, 06:26:10 pm
side note- use /twist # once for the extras, as it'll just use it then resume it's normal twisting.


Title: Re: twisting including weapon
Post by: norwinx3 on December 04, 2012, 08:16:12 pm
noob question...where did you guys downloaded your mq2? cant seem to find that kind of ini file on my mq2 folder...


Title: Re: twisting including weapon
Post by: Kovou on December 04, 2012, 10:19:43 pm
type /plugin mq2twist then press enter

Then /twist 1 then press enter

Then /twist off then press enter

then log out and check your mq2


Title: Re: twisting including weapon
Post by: clbreastmilk on December 14, 2012, 09:42:57 pm
I am attempting to have a 3.0 click go off in the twist while wearing two 4.0's as talked about in previous posts.  I copied over the ini file exactly and created the twist command as well.  Error I am receiving is a basic eq error stating "You cannot use this item unless it is equipped."  The switch must not be happening here.  Any advice to help this please  :)