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So what's up with the drop rate of charms in HoH in the last 24 hours?

I did 4 clears (public & instanced) today and received a whopping 3 upgrades

8 hours logged today (not hardcore but grinding none the less)

4 shadow kills = 1 v2 upgrade

Did we get a ninja nerf or just RNG giving it to me dry?

/VIOLATED
 

Probably RNG, cause I haven't touched it except during double loot but reverted back to the original table after it was over.

I'll check it out later to see whats up.

i cleared yesterday and today like 5x HoH and get like 20charms rotting and killed 3x Shadow and there was samething wrong every kill 3gems 1book and only 1x 2x v2 charms... Shadow is low all others are fine!!!

I'd have to agree, normal mobs do seem to drop roughly same rate as before loot table changes, maybe slightley less, but nothing major
However shadow definatly is a lot more reluctant to drop charms, thought it may just be me, still could be, but a lot of people had mentioned it in ooc.

Thanks for looking at it Hunter, maybe nothing wrong, just we are all having bad luck

From what I have seen, shadow is more stingy than he ever was. He often will only drop 0-1 charm now. Perhaps make the minimum 1 charm would help.

A lot of Shadow kills yesterday (gearing up some charms on my team), and had 5 shadows with no charms at all (about half of them).

Forget about the drop rate, what about his shadow stepping?  He seems to jump 3 or 4 times EVERY time out now, where it used to be possible to get him on the first or second try.  I find myself chasing him around a lot more since the change in shadow step

Thanks for the info guys & thanks to Hunter for quick response.

RNG for shadowstep was good on my end. 2 kills were 1 step.

Yeah the other day he jumped four times on me to drop no charms and two tokens. No thanks!

Just curious, how many times is Shadow teleporting on you before you kill him?

There is some magic behind the shadow step. Basically if/when he decides to do it, he depops himself and spawns a new copy some where else. This is how he gets full hp and loses all aggro. When he does this, he randomly determines if the next version of Shadow is the final one or is going to step again (up to 4x max now). Only the final version of Shadow has loot on him, not the versions that are going to shadow step on you. This is to prevent someone with super spells nuking him hard to get loot on current shadow + 2nd shadow that stepped. Hope makes sense. Maybe I gotta set the NEXTHPEVENT higher?

So, you have to let him step 4 times before getting anything?  That defeats the purpose of getting better gear to be able to kill him faster. 
I understand that 4x max steps is need for newer people just getting into HoH, I remember when I first started, he would jump all day long or until I got lucky.
Now that I am T6 gears and I am going back gearing my other toons with UC'ed.  It's crazy to think I have to limit my groups dps to be able to let him jump 4 times and/or suffer the likelihood of not getting anything.
I guess I just don't understand. 

Have had him step 5 and 6 times within the last week.....but typically 3 or 4.

He might step 1, 2, 3, or 4 times. Obviously the faster you kill him the faster you'll get the loot.

Hunter, right now shadow is steping 4 times almost every single pop. Might be an issue with the perl file for him.

I went through 5-6 instances today and the page drops (gearing up some toons for my son) seem to be on the suck side...and V2 charm drops seemed very slack too.  I expected Shadow to be stingy since he was nerfed a few months back, but out of 5-6 clears I only got 2 sorcerers, 1 brawler and 3 oracle charm upgrades (and that was killing shadow 3 times for 3 books)off the entire zone.

The problem isn't that it takes 1-4 times, the problem is that it takes 3-4 times every kill now.  The average number of jumps per kill seems higher than before

I think shadow drops one charm max now since the source change. But most times its just a 3.5 book and no charms.

I got two V1s in a single kill from Shadow today, so it CAN still happen... sometimes.