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Title: Update 12-29-12
Post by: Hunter on December 29, 2012, 04:07:47 am
New spell file available 12-29-12 just minor stuff, not priority yet.

T7 Loping Plains is 99.9% finished now. I grinded out the rest of making the zone during the last 2 days. The only thing left to do for T7 is create new Strike IX Augments, new ranks for Shield of the Ages and Mana Necklace, Teleport Rings, and possibly UCv3 upgrade Task Collect quest. Everything is imported but won't show up until after reboot. Zone is currently locked while I test some last minute stuff. All the mobs and loot list are done.

After the next reboot players should be able to hail the Universal Teleporter and say 'lopingplains' to see if your flagged. Slight bug, if you are flagged, is that you'll get yellow text saying your flagged, then regular text that your not flagged. The 2nd time you hail it'll be normal. This is because its checking for your flag, giving you a flag if not flagged, then checking your flag again in an attempt to teleport you there (which isn't open yet). Anyways, just hail a second time if it says your not flagged. The required 'flag' to get in will be a full suit from Anguish. This includes all 7 main armor slots and all 7 main jewelry slots to get flagged.

After you are 'flagged' then you won't need your gear anymore. New T7 gear will be acquired without using old gear in a combine. So just bank your old gear or whatever. This way if you get an item deleted by accident, then you won't have to go back to Qvic to refarm anything.

The zone will probably smack T6 players silly just like when a T4 player enters T5 zone. There is a LOT of HP upgrade in the gear for T7, and even casual players should be able to break 1 million HP, including casters. The balance of npc hp and damage is a guess, based on what they had in Anguish. First group of players in there will probably strugging in the beginning until they figure out how the zone was designed and I might have to tweak it as well.

Augment Slot Types are changed for both armor and weapons. We'll be converting old augments into the new slot types so they won't be wasted if your fully Anguish augmented already.

Trying not to spoil anything but hopefully that helps players a bit. Might open up Loping Plains in the next few days.





Title: Re: Update 12-29-12
Post by: Natedog on December 29, 2012, 05:40:23 am
UCv3 oh man gonna have lots more farming to do   ;D

Can't wait to get smacked around in T7!


Title: Re: Update 12-29-12
Post by: Natedog on December 29, 2012, 06:13:45 am
After this update ... seems instances in T5 are now 500,500plat was this intended?


Title: Re: Update 12-29-12
Post by: Bobbin on December 29, 2012, 06:39:08 am
Personally, I would like to see T7 flag requirement be a slightly less than full T6 set of armor. :/ Christ, but that's a lot of jewelry to farm with a shitty drop rate. I've run the 5.0 kill quest twice, helped friends and guildies farm 4.5s as well as work on their own 5.0s, and even gone back to farm essences from time to time. With current requirement I'll be 2/26 flagged. Maybe I'm not the usual situation, though.

Either way, time for a trip back to The Abyss! I am very very excited to see T7!


Title: Re: Update 12-29-12
Post by: Natedog on December 29, 2012, 07:07:19 am
The accessories drop a lot better than they used to be. DK / Omadon were ultra rare


Got 12 /12 flagged currently and bringing up a slacker warrior alt who already has Full T5 and no where near finished with T5 .. so the accessories seem pretty decent drop rate to me.


Title: Re: Update 12-29-12
Post by: Bobbin on December 29, 2012, 07:20:38 am
Actually logged in and looked at the crew... Have 4 currently flagged, most of the rest of my main group are only missing one or two items. My spreadsheet was still indicating a lot of earrings/rings missing since previous ones were changed to T6. I should really get coffee before posting in the forum.


Title: Re: Update 12-29-12
Post by: wolfegunr on December 29, 2012, 08:06:17 am
Only a couple people will be fully ready. Full suit of armor/6.0 is more realistic, almost every toon of mine is missing something from T5 due to the nightmare it was when I was running it full time. Or 5/7 for armor, jewelry.

Actually, even that doesn't make much sense. Armor quest and entry flag should be 2 completely seperate things. Entry req should only be 6.0, as always. If people aren't geared for the content, they will fail, it's up to them to shore up.

6.0 to get in, all armor to be flagged for new gear.


Title: Re: Update 12-29-12
Post by: wolfegunr on December 29, 2012, 08:17:15 am
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The zone will probably smack T6 players silly just like when a T4 player enters T5 zone.

This doesn't make sense, at all. T6 players that got the optional UCV2 out of the way, all V8 augs, as well as shield 40 etc should not be ANYTHING like a T4 entering T5.

Also saw something about a UCv3. What, UC is going to be a required part of every new tier now? Are you kidding me? Would be cool if, say, for all that extra work we were well prepared for the next tier. But now doing all optional gear is just entry level?




Title: Re: Update 12-29-12
Post by: Chunka on December 29, 2012, 08:44:00 am
So are T5 instances now 500K and 250K? I really do hope this is an error.


Title: Re: Update 12-29-12
Post by: Fugitive on December 29, 2012, 09:49:39 am
Evil!!! Post 1 Screen Shot!!! haha


Title: Re: Update 12-29-12
Post by: Stuff4Sale on December 29, 2012, 10:11:06 am
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The zone will probably smack T6 players silly just like when a T4 player enters T5 zone.

This doesn't make sense, at all. T6 players that got the optional UCV2 out of the way, all V8 augs, as well as shield 40 etc should not be ANYTHING like a T4 entering T5.

Also saw something about a UCv3. What, UC is going to be a required part of every new tier now? Are you kidding me? Would be cool if, say, for all that extra work we were well prepared for the next tier. But now doing all optional gear is just entry level?




I don't understand how you flag gear as "optional" and decide you don't want to get it... What is wrong with you?


Title: Re: Update 12-29-12
Post by: wolfegunr on December 29, 2012, 10:30:47 am
Ultimate charm V2 is an optional piece, not supposed to be required, that's what I mean by optional. Asking "what is wrong with you" because you seem to disagree that any gear is optional is pretty ignorant, and rude.

We shouldn't have to make sure every toon of ours has every piece of gear in the game just to go to the new zone. This does not make sense. Should we have the previous gear to gear up? Yes. 

I can get to T4 in a couple days, T5 to T6 takes a CRAPTON longer, and T6 complete takes much longer than this as well. Add to that the time to get UCV2, and other gear such as shield 40 and strike augs level 8...we see why a T6 fully geared should be nothing like a T4 entering T5.


Title: Re: Update 12-29-12
Post by: Brokyn on December 29, 2012, 10:52:39 am
To Hunter...  Great job, keep up the good work.  Excited to see the new content.

To the folks who are complaining already about T7...  Grow up.  He's making new content faster than Sony ever did, and people are complaining about it.  He's making the top tier of new stuff hard to get so that some work has to be done to get it.  If you're not a fan of that, all I can say is WOW!!!


Title: Re: Update 12-29-12
Post by: wolfegunr on December 29, 2012, 11:07:18 am
First of all, I appreciate all that Hunter does, Have always said this. As for "complaining about T7 already" the entrance requirements are not very realistic. As for it being hard, yeah I expect it to be hard, but not like starting all over again.

You think I got here by not working? This content is made for us, and requires feedback to work. And yet again, insulting others, saying "grow up" ... really? Take your own advice, little maturity here folks. If you have something reasonable to say, offer up your well reasoned counter points.


Title: Re: Update 12-29-12
Post by: Brokyn on December 29, 2012, 11:08:28 am
I don't see how being done with T6 is too hard a requirement for entering T7...


Title: Re: Update 12-29-12
Post by: wolfegunr on December 29, 2012, 11:10:38 am
Not being done? Being done with a previous tier meant having that level epic, or bp. This is a HUGE fundamental shift. What is so hard to see?

I have every piece of gear for my main and a couple off toons, but not all of them. I guarantee I'm not alone in this by a long shot. I am working on shoring up the missing gear now, but what a disappointing thing after spending so much time on all my toons. I have 10 UCV2, and 20 toons with 6.0s and almost all gear. Just missing a piece here and there on them.


Title: Re: Update 12-29-12
Post by: Brokyn on December 29, 2012, 11:17:49 am
Not being done? Being done with a previous tier meant having that level epic, or bp. This is a HUGE fundamental shift. What is so hard to see?

I have every piece of gear for my main and a couple off toons, but not all of them. I guarantee I'm not alone in this by a long shot. I am working on shoring up the missing gear now, but what a disappointing thing after spending so much time on all my toons. I have 10 UCV2, and 20 toons with 6.0s and almost all gear. Just missing a piece here and there on them.

If you are just missing a piece here and there, you are in great shape and almost there...  IMO there should only be a couple of people ready to enter T7 when it is first released.  If half the server is ready to go on day one, then Hunter would have to come up with T8 within 6 weeks or people would start to complain that T7 was too easy and they are done already


Title: Re: Update 12-29-12
Post by: wolfegunr on December 29, 2012, 11:28:06 am
If you are complaining its too easy, be a real man and delete your UCs. Use a team of nothing but druids and wizzies. Getting all the goodies and top end gear makes content easier, or at least flow more consistantly (which is what I am after), this is the point you see of getting this stuff.

What should not happen is these top geared people hitting a brick wall, as if they didn't already dump hundreds of hours into the game. That is what I am saying here.

As for the entrance requirements, Having all of your toons have every piece of gear in the game is not really realistic nor fair. Being able to get the new gear can require this, sure.  How is this an unreasonable expectation given the established precedents?

As for your opinion that just a couple people should be able to even get into t7, I will have to disagree with that. People that have spent hundreds of hours into this game and have 6.0s and most of the gear deserve to get in too. They have been able to every tier before this. Sure they wont do as well as those with more gear but again this is the very nature of this game (though I doubt having a couple toons missing 1 to 2 pieces of gear would make any difference at all.)


Title: Re: Update 12-29-12
Post by: Hunter on December 29, 2012, 12:07:07 pm
Just waking up here and reading about all the butt-hurt going on about requirements for T7.

The UC v1 and v2 are NOT a requirement to enter T7, but if you have either of these, and some stonewall, then you'll probably do fine. Otherwise, you'll probably have a rez a bit and get some gear before it gets easier.

For the people that have the main 7 armor slots from Anguish, how are  you missing anything?

In addition to the main 7 armor slots required, these are the 'jewelry' slots you'll need:

Ayonae Ro's Mask III
Luclin's Medallion III
Morrell Thule's Pauldron III
Tallen Zek's Cloak III
Terris Thule's Belt III
Tholuxe Paells's Ring III
Torvonnilous's Earring III

As I posted before, T7 is where we are starting that you don't need previous gear in any combines or turn ins. All you need for the new armor drops in the zone. All you need to do is get flagged for it first. If I don't make gear a requirement to enter the zone, then people will rush in without gear, and get all the new gear without haven't gotten the previous gear. Players will rush to get their T2 BP, Epic 4.0, and 100 Boss kills, completely ignoring all the other gear if T7 doesn't have any other requirements.

Waypoint prices will be adjusted. I didn't look at what I had T5 set at. Seems like it was 75k, so Anguish will be 250k and Loping Plains will be 500k. Just give me time to either #reloadquest in the zone or wait for reboot.

I plan to start dropping more money bags throughout all the tiers, obviously bigger ones in higher tiers. Will probably do that through quest addloot so I can cover most of the npcs in the zones which without having to edit all their individual loot tables which gets time consuming.

T7 mobs HP and DPS is only a small percentage increase from T6. I'm sure players with their Stonewalls and UCv1 are going to do just fine, esp if they have an UCv2 which is not 'required' to survive, just makes it easier. Again, after you start getting armor, they have a HUGE HP increase. After full T7 then going back to Anguish will seem like visiting Crushbone.

I know a lot of people have their UCv1. If it seems players are wiping more often than not on every trash or every other trash, even with UCv1/UCv2, max stonewall, gear, augs, etc, then yeah obviously that would be too difficult and I'd have to reduce some mob DPS.

This is a guessing game for me. It always has been with every new tier we opened open. Things are not permanent. They can be adjusted. So stop your crying, and just wait n see how the zone plays out.

I gotta finish waking up here, see ya in game in a bit.



Title: Re: Update 12-29-12
Post by: clbreastmilk on December 29, 2012, 12:26:53 pm
I plan to start dropping more money bags throughout all the tiers, obviously bigger ones in higher tiers. Will probably do that through quest addloot so I can cover most of the npcs in the zones which without having to edit all their individual loot tables which gets time consuming.

<3

Any chance of possibly sprinkling some SLS drops here and there?


Title: Re: Update 12-29-12
Post by: Chunka on December 29, 2012, 01:00:22 pm
Thank you, sir. T5 before the update was 1k, 5K, 20K. I do understand if prices need to go up....just seemed 25 times was a bit excessive :D


Title: Re: Update 12-29-12
Post by: jamey0181 on December 29, 2012, 01:47:10 pm
mpan wasn't it 1k 5k and 25k for t5 ?


Title: Re: Update 12-29-12
Post by: hateborne on December 29, 2012, 02:04:20 pm
Just minor question about the T7 requirement, can we drop necklace requirement? If not, casters using mana necklace get pooped on. If we require max level necklace, then should we be required to max augs as well?

Just a thought.

-Hate


Title: Re: Update 12-29-12
Post by: Fugitive on December 29, 2012, 02:05:30 pm
That don't make sense, It's just loot the "Tier" item and bag it not the Crafter Neck. Not going to cost anyone a Copper Piece.
 
It goes the same with the Back Item now being in the back slot for most players probably. We will still need to loot the back item and bag it.

But honestly I only agree with the main Armor slots + 6.0 not the accessories.. /meh


Title: Re: Update 12-29-12
Post by: Pukagiz on December 29, 2012, 02:12:07 pm
Players will rush to get their T2 BP, Epic 4.0, and 100 Boss kills, completely ignoring all the other gear if T7 doesn't have any other requirements.

lol have you played on  your own server? just curious....because that was funny....for T2 BP you need qvic, tacvi and T1+ores for both T1 and T2....for epic 4.0 you need 1.5, 2.0, 2.5, 3.0, 3.5(shadow kill) 4.0(mcp kill).....100 boss kills takes a stupid amount of time which many people don't really have the needed gear / crew to just plow T5...

givin everything you stated in the quote above and what i've said.....it would STILL take a considerable amount of time to "rush" any of it to get to T7....just sayin....


Title: Re: Update 12-29-12
Post by: Brokyn on December 29, 2012, 02:15:34 pm
If the game isn't fun...  Don't play :)  The rest of the content Hunter has provided is great.  You don't have to be in the last zone to make it worth playing.


Title: Re: Update 12-29-12
Post by: Fugitive on December 29, 2012, 02:16:35 pm
If the game isn't fun...  Don't play :)  The rest of the content Hunter has provided is great.  You don't have to be in the last zone to make it worth playing.

Word

If you want to see end game you have to play, if you only have 1-2 hrs a week.. be happy the game as is  -free and ever changing and enjoy the time you do have in game.. Make good friends..


Title: Re: Update 12-29-12
Post by: Hunter on December 29, 2012, 02:19:47 pm
You don't have to be in the last zone to make it worth playing.

I've tried to make all the custom tier zones fun playing. Just enjoy it where your at.

The new tier 7 is for players that have nothing left to do.


Title: Re: Update 12-29-12
Post by: Fugitive on December 29, 2012, 02:20:59 pm
It all is fun to play Hunter. Just a few players think this is the "Everyone gets a trophy league".



Title: Re: Update 12-29-12
Post by: Felony on December 29, 2012, 02:26:48 pm
I got some candy, if you want your trophy climb into my van.
p.s. Requirement to get into the zone is fine, the qq'ing about it is from a bunch of wankers.


Title: Re: Update 12-29-12
Post by: whatzizface on December 29, 2012, 02:38:21 pm
Excuse me, Long time listener, first time caller.(In awhile anyways) I seriously do not understand the logic behind wanting to get into a zone where you will get one shotted every mob because you do not have the gear. "Yes i would love to be all decked out in the finery of those who worked for it, But alas, That means i have to actually play the game some and that makes me sad" What kind of logic does that make? Just my 2 cents here.


Title: Re: Update 12-29-12
Post by: genoside on December 29, 2012, 02:47:09 pm
WANKERS ROFL i love that word i wish people in the us would start using it.


Title: Re: Update 12-29-12
Post by: Gannicus on December 29, 2012, 03:01:47 pm
It's honestly not the worst idea ever. Lets be honest here, being full suited up is IDEAL so that if something rampages your toons aren't gonna roll over and die and cause for stress on yourself with battle rezzes. While I may not like the sounds of it, lets be honest i'm still in little ol t5 trying to get my 100 kills done, and then I will finally have t6 to look forward to, just means i'll have more time to invest in t6, i'm not crying nor complaining. I understand the rarity on the off slots that there may be, but i'm really looking forward to advancing finally out of t5 and working my way through t6 into t7. Be grateful for what hunter has done, everything is always bound to change and the content hasn't even released yet.


Title: Re: Update 12-29-12
Post by: Felony on December 29, 2012, 03:08:38 pm
Yeah seriously, the drop rate for the non visible slots in T5 is not that bad, I only need 1 ear 1 back to be done (and I've been lazy about farming it) and each clear of T6 nets 1 full set minus 1 bracer or have I just been seeing things on each clear I do...
Im 6 +2 outside of group that contribute nothing but to keep the zone alive for me in case I wipe. If I can clear t6 in a reasonable time for my healer heavy group.. well I do not see what others have to complain about. Clear T5, Clear T6, enjoy T7.


Title: Re: Update 12-29-12
Post by: Fugitive on December 29, 2012, 03:12:42 pm
Dirty wankers


Title: Re: Update 12-29-12
Post by: Gannicus on December 29, 2012, 03:16:11 pm
Dirty wankers

That's it, no Glassilisk for you!


Title: Re: Update 12-29-12
Post by: napoleonn on December 29, 2012, 03:29:31 pm
To Hunter...  Great job, keep up the good work.  Excited to see the new content.

To the folks who are complaining already about T7...  Grow up.  He's making new content faster than Sony ever did, and people are complaining about it.  He's making the top tier of new stuff hard to get so that some work has to be done to get it.  If you're not a fan of that, all I can say is WOW!!!
+1


Title: Re: Update 12-29-12
Post by: Griz on December 29, 2012, 03:39:49 pm
This includes all 7 main armor slots and all 7 main jewelry slots to get flagged.

Does this mean you only need one bracer?

I'm only about halfway through T5 (and need a lot of armor from there still), but just wondering.


Title: Re: Update 12-29-12
Post by: Hunter on December 29, 2012, 03:59:51 pm
Yes, 1 bracer.


Title: Re: Update 12-29-12
Post by: Stuff4Sale on December 29, 2012, 05:24:10 pm
?

In addition to the main 7 armor slots required, these are the 'jewelry' slots you'll need:

Ayonae Ro's Mask III
Luclin's Medallion III
Morrell Thule's Pauldron III
Tallen Zek's Cloak III
Terris Thule's Belt III
Tholuxe Paells's Ring III
Torvonnilous's Earring III





THAT is the jewelry required... why does everyone keep crying about having to go back to T5 for jewelry?? Is III not T6?


Title: Re: Update 12-29-12
Post by: Brokyn on December 29, 2012, 05:25:22 pm
You have to have the T5 piece to make the T6 piece with the drop from T6


Title: Re: Update 12-29-12
Post by: Stuff4Sale on December 29, 2012, 05:25:49 pm
Oh ok. Wasn't aware that was introduced in T6.. Thanks for clearing that up! :)


Title: Re: Update 12-29-12
Post by: Fugitive on December 29, 2012, 05:26:26 pm
Have to have looted T5 to "make" T6 that is the only thing I can think of.. and for a long time there T5 Accessory was /meh drop rate.. that's the only thing I can think of..

-missing II type jewels to make the III type jewels.


Title: Re: Update 12-29-12
Post by: Hunter on December 29, 2012, 06:44:34 pm
I just realized some armor like head and feet might not have gotten the same updates as the other tiers, with Guide Journey, Gate, Water Breathe, etc.

Will be a simple fix to add soon.



Title: Re: Update 12-29-12
Post by: wolfegunr on December 30, 2012, 01:21:30 pm
Only couple more T6 drops to go and Im in t7...can't wait.

Hunter, thank you for all of the new content. We really appreciate all the work you do here on this server. I am still recovering from a terrible flu and had very little sleep when I saw your first post on T7, and I overreacted. Was just so dissapointed that I wouldn't be able to get into T7 right when it was released.

I still think that its a bit much to expect every alt toon to have every single piece of gear, but I do see why you are doing it this way.

I realize that you cant please 100% of the people 100% of the time, but I feel you do a damn good job on this server, it's the only place I want to play and that says something, I have tried a lot of them and have many toons on other servers.

Here's to checking out T7 and sticking with it throughout the tweaks and changes.   :D


Title: Re: Update 12-29-12
Post by: Felony on December 31, 2012, 08:23:55 pm
woot for 7.0 fight. Reminds me of OG T3/T4 fights. Long.