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After PL-ing a chanter I was told via ooc that Charm has been disabled on the server. Anyone know why it was disabled? Any chance that it will be reactivated?

Thanks,

-Nogard

I believe mobs were charming people in LDON and screwing up their play.  Making pets poof, tanks attacking their boxed alts, etc.

Here is the thread:

http://ezserver.online/forums/index.php?topic=147.msg816#msg816 (http://ezserver.online/forums/index.php?topic=147.msg816#msg816)

I believe there is an exploit with charmed mobs that allows duping of items.

Can't see how this has anything to do with player characters not being able to charm NPCs.

My mistake... thought you meant getting charmed by mobs...

All charming was removed because of the exploit I guess...

Interesting. I wonder how that worked exactly. Can anyone else shed some more light on this topic? Seems extreme to remove Charm server-wide.

I don't know how it works and I doubt anyone that does know is going to say on here at all. But how is it extreme? There is a bug that allows duping of items using charmed mobs, unless the bug can be fixed the logical and reasonable solution is to remove charm. Otherwise you end up with a server destroyed instead of a server with no charm.

dupe up some FG/CG items

I think it's extreme because it takes away a class defining ability, and I'd wager that others agree since barely anyone is playing a chanter on this server.

How about making select non-quest NPCs charmable instead of making all NPCs immune to charm? For example... make the giants in BOT charmable, and trash in Dulak, PoTime and Qvic, etc. Keep all else immune if it's too much work to reactivate charm server-wide and cherry pick NPCs for immunity.

You allow any one mob to be charmed, that mob will be used to dupe stuff i would wager

Reed echoed what I said, that is the whole point. Being able to dupe items would ruin the entire server, whereas taking away charm limits bards and enchanters. To compensate they put the casters guild pet ring as usable by bards and enchanters. Not being able to charm is relatively new. I have been on this server for over a year and I have seen less than 5 enchanters the entire time. Ruining a server so 2 highly underused classes can use a highly underused (for legit reasons anyway) spell just makes no sense. It would be extreme to allow charming so a hand full of toons could charm at the expense of the server.

Probably on Hunter's long to do list to fix classes

Exploit is long fixed regarding this.

It would be perfectly fine to re-implement charm.

When was this fixed? I didn't see it in the change log text. Maybe left out on purpose I guess. Confirmed? Safe to put in charm again?

This would be really cool.

Hmm... a whole new world opening up to bards, chanters, and druids?
Hmmm

Population of enchanters on server goes from 5 to OVER 9000!!!!!!!!

i would say, give us proof that bug has been fixed so we can verify its safe to use again.

Also, charm opens up more usefulness to the class but i imagine the influx on new chanters would not be that much more. the CG pet is ok, but not as good as actual pet classes. So you would pretty much have a gimp pet class with a good clicky haste. cant slow or anything still, idk about mez though.

Charm wasn't always disabled. In over a year I have seen maybe 5 enchanters. Most useful mobs could not be charmed when it was enabled.

I made a chanter as one of my earlier characters for buffs. The only one now that I never got 3.0 for.

I actually noticed charm had been disabled when I was playing Druid. I used to love to charm the bears in LDoN 4.  They were pretty sweet hasted.

I remember when Hunter put those 2 mobs at the zone in to Qvic, the white cons, they used to be charmable by chanters / bards. and those things were beast with a heal here and there... but now they just standing there to look cool... lol, Charm would be pretty cool if they re implemented it but don't know if they will... From reading this post it does sound like it might be back, but also as -Reed- said after qvic what can you charm ? if you can charm a dragon in PoD that would be SICK but i dont see that happening because of the AE, AE would probably hit your pet/ you and a chanter with a poison for 3-6k a tick is gonna go down pretty quick... but I have never played a chanter so i don't know if that would be possible

Tankz~

Tank, the AoE wouldn't hit you because it would be your pet so it would just hit whatever you are fighting.

Oh, well that would be pretty sick... SUPER argo tho rofl... the range of the AE is nice, and I'm sure would hit other dragons or something... but again like I said never played a chanter/ charm class before so hah hah

Tankz~

would have to revamp Dire Charm. otherwise if its red to you, no charming will happen

Reed pointed me here when I asked about it. Quoted and Bolded what stood out to me. At least when Hunter NerfSticked this time he compensated for it. Maybe there is hope for him after all.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiMHTK15Pik

Man I noticed the enc population was like NOTHING when I decided to make mine. I ran around and found every possible NPC I could charm and had a blast playing with it.
Yea to bad I didnt load up some leet hacks to notify me when Hunter is around.
Less then 10min after moving every guild master in starter zone over to the Dummy he removed the ability to charm them.
Next to go was the Lotto bot which I decided to park next to the code guy in the back of the caves.
Just can not catch a break anywhere.

ps next to nothing on the whole damn server (that even a level 1 moss snake doesnt kill in under 20 seconds) is mezable. If you can mez it wtf is the point. You have more regen on a BOT geared toon then the damage that NPC could put out.

Still fun to run around and 3.0 those annoying ass warriors that pull greens to the fort in pod then watch them fail on that next 3+ dragon pull... Oh snap you couldnt use that disc could you fucker.

(I have a screen shot of Hunter laughing at me when I told him about how I learned that shit the hard way. First time I 3.0'd my warrior I spawned kronus... pew pew SPLAT)

I actually 3.0ed my enchanter so I am once again all for charm as my collection of not really useful toons is growing.

Balthor makes me laugh with his T2 chanter running around HoH able to do nothing =p

when do you see me in HoH you faggot?
I have no desire to go there and farm shit. T2 was as far as I cared to go and when I got there I was happy. T3/T4 just happened to come out right as I got my first set of BP's.
Couple times I zoned in the first 2 days with avalon just to see how annoying it would be and then I zoned in a few time because Crab was at zone in and I wanted to go /wave at him.

As for charm, its worthless on this server because nothing worthwhile can be charmed (from the standpoint of a 3.0 geared crew)
Maybe while leveling up or some shit its cool.

Confused by reading this thread. Can anyone clear up if Charm is working or not?

Charm does not work.

Bummer, Cool thanks for confirming Xiggie.

I'd suggest a test of the exploit by Hunter or Secrets, find out in detail how it works, then enable charm for a single instanced zone (if that's even possible). If the dupe is fixed, let's get charm back in! My enchanter just hit 70, and my bard would LOVE to swarm kite in plane of nightmare like I used to back in the day, for nostalgia and an insanely fast trip from 51-65.

Trevius has a fix for that dupe.  Its a simple line of code (if not already fixed)

Fragile