EZ Server

I briefly spoke with Hunter about this. Do you think it would break the current content if pallys and sk's could dual wield? Their 1hd epics would have to be made primary only to keep from having two epics equiped and being way over powered.

Your thoughts?

Discuss

I think that they should just stay with sword and board. I don't see a real point in them dual wielding. Unless the were DPS class, but that wouldn't make sense at all.

2H or 1H+Shield no reason to add dual, but whateva I've seen crazier

I think DW for sk/pal should enable warriors to DWing 2handers.

You have two questions Sol, I think its kinda misleading sorta I know what ya asked and answered but this question and those little tiny words above the poll... are(can be) conflicting

Yeah, the discussion is about if you think it would break, and the poll is if you'd want it to happen. Kinda 2 birds with one stone deal.

So what you're saying is you want to be able to use your pally epic and the halloween weapon too?

You could, or you could use two halloween ones on them, and not use them to heal proc.

I'm with Xig on this one. This would be of value only to the unicorn weapon population. What is there for anybody else to dual wield?

I don't think it would be gamebreaking; I just think it would be wasted on 80% of the server population. To anybody without uber-rare items it would just be yet another cool thing they can't actually take advantage of.

I think warriors should get mana and wizard nukes

Interesting feedback :)

Thanks

Id think no on this... then paladins would use Dual wield pally epics maybe a 6.0 and a 7.0 at once lol

think no regardless, they aren't a dual wielding class, no reason to change them, they work fine

Edit:

Just read about the lore on epics.. I still don't think its a great idea just so you can use haloween weapons. Lots of classes are not great at using them should we change all of them too?

No. Fun idea but broken.

I'll say this, with the new changes made to the server with slower hits for bigger hits. Its much more needed I think for pally and sk to get a DW function just so the heals can be there more, my only reason I would ever go for something like this,

Yeah^ I'm not a fan of waiting 2-3seconds for another combat round to be honest wish there was another way to reduce the lag and keep the old attack system

I don't know about paladins, but I seem to be doing fine casting my T3 lifetap between swings. Maybe try casting Crabtwoshoes and wave of purity? You can also use Holy Zealotry instead of Crusader's Fury, and you can click your epic on yourself. It's not like you need mana for anything else as a paladin, since a UC completely negates the mana drain from Kaldar's.

Only time you should maybe have an issue is if you ONLY use one paladin as the only healer in a group.
Class is playing fine and has a ton of healing options. If anything give me more agro..... another topic but seriously wtf over "Hey TANK class, have negative agro on every proc because thats sooooo productive"

I pointed out in another thread that the easiest way to shore up Paladin healing after the changes would be to boost the HoT component of Zealotry to make up for missed swings, but I sort of hit a wall with that argument.

with the changes to weaps delay i think dual wielding epics for paly/sk is great idea my toons die alot more with the higher delay just simply not healing enough now

Initially I thought, "dual wielding knights?? Thats a bigger crime against nature than a gnomish monk!" But thinking about things, keeping in mind the change to delay, this may actually be a viable solution if tweaked right. But, one caveat: no augs in the offhand epic, if thats possible. There isnt need to increase knight DPS.

Technically speaking, yes it can be done. But it would take creating a whole new epic, same name, same stats, same procs but no aug slots on this newly created weapon to the table.

That would make them too powerful since you can just put the Halloween weapon in one hand and the epic in the other. Their damage would be way overboard while keeping up with the healing too. Right now there is a trade off. If you want to have that damage, you do away with your heals, if you want to have the heals, you do away with the damage.

I mean, the obvious butt-hurt solution to that would to disallow for knights to use the halloween weapon, could also just not do the DWing for paladins/sks but it does seem more reasonable of an idea now that it was way back in the day with the recent server side change to delay.

I vote : Zerker Dual Wield

I vote zerker dual wield a 2h in primary and a 1h in secondary, just like pets. I heard that they could do something like that (or DW 2h's, i cant remember) but after I made mine, i was sad to learn they couldn't in fact do that.

I vote:  Monks get triple wield!

Sounds kinda dirty....I like it!

Because you die doesnt mean the game is broken, it means either you (a) suck (b) didnt gear out yet for the tier (c) have not charmed up (d) or finally non of the above apply and RNG just got lucky for once.

My paladin is probably the 2nd worse geared toon out of my entire set and it never dies and the only time anything in my group dies is when 7+ hit me at once.
Solution for me, pull less or rez, I choose to rez.

Your mileage may very.

I have no strong opinion either way. For those of you that use the "intended purpose" argument, try to remember this is a custom server. Your troll's should not be monks, and your dark elves should not be paladins.  So, why is the possibility of dual wielding knights absurd?

Like I said, I don't care either way, as long as they still have a purpose.

And triple wielding monks? I love how you bring relevance to the topic... Unless you meant iksar monks. Strap a spiked mace on their tails and it may be possible

The point I was trying to make is I think it is just as ridiculous for knights to be able to dual wield as it would for monks to triple wield. It makes either class too good. Sorry you missed that?

Epic shields for Knights before we go and throw a crazy pill like this in the water supply please.

It's called Shield of Ages.