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Title: New weapon Delay / DPS parses! Post by: Natedog on January 04, 2013, 05:19:16 am Making this to see how DPS is doing after the changes! So far I noticed the changes are much better on lag which is a good thing!
Some classes see dps loss in some areas but big DPS increases in other areas when paired with a certain class! I've only done a few so far.. but please post your own parses so we can all compare! Make sure to list these components!
Please do NOT post old parses from before the changes! - This is meant to give an idea how each class is holding up! Anything I post is UCv2 =================================================================== =================================================================== Paladin - 6.0 - 3x FS8 Self Buffed (Yaulp X) Practice Dummy on 1/3/2013 in 180sec (6.0) v8s Total --- DMG: 54387793 (100%) @ 302154 dps (302154 sdps) --- DMG to PC: 83 @1dps Paldalina --- DMG: 54387793 (100%) @ 302154 dps (302154 sdps) --- DMG to PC: 83 @1dps Special: 7: 7th yr vet G: Glyph K: Kiss S: Staunch X: Slain $: Saved by DI Produced by GamParse v1.0.3 =================================================================== =================================================================== Paladin 7.0 FS9 x 1 Self Buffed (Yaulp X) Practice Dummy on 1/3/2013 in 180sec (7.0) v9 Total --- DMG: 59528218 (100%) @ 330712 dps (330712 sdps) --- DMG to PC: 10 @0dps Paldail --- DMG: 59528218 (100%) @ 330712 dps (330712 sdps) --- DMG to PC: 10 @0dps Special: 7: 7th yr vet G: Glyph K: Kiss S: Staunch X: Slain $: Saved by DI Produced by GamParse v1.0.3 =================================================================== =================================================================== Paladin 7.0 FS9 x 1 Self Buffed (Yaulp X) Shaman buffs + Kraken II Bard w/ 6.0 twisting Practice Dummy on 1/4/2013 in 180sec -- 7.0 with bard and Kraken II Total --- DMG: 69159927 (100%) @ 384222 dps (384222 sdps) Paldail --- DMG: 69159927 (100%) @ 384222 dps (384222 sdps) Special: 7: 7th yr vet G: Glyph K: Kiss S: Staunch X: Slain $: Saved by DI Produced by GamParse v1.0.3 =================================================================== =================================================================== Paladin 7.0 Shaman w/ Kraken II Self Buffed (Yaulp X) Bard w/ 6.0 Mage debuffing Malos Rank III Practice Dummy on 1/4/2013 in 180sec -- 7.0 with bard + Kraken II + Mage Debuff III Total --- DMG: 91490130 (100%) @ 508278 dps (508278 sdps) --- DMG to PC: 95 @1dps Paldail --- DMG: 91490130 (100%) @ 508278 dps (508278 sdps) --- DMG to PC: 95 @1dps Special: 7: 7th yr vet G: Glyph K: Kiss S: Staunch X: Slain $: Saved by DI Produced by GamParse v1.0.3 =================================================================== =================================================================== Currently debuffing NPCs seems to be a large DPS increase! So it is WELL worth your time to use! Title: Re: New weapon Delay / DPS parses! Post by: Natedog on January 04, 2013, 06:02:33 am Wizards dps with new spells !
Wizard Self buffs (Curious Creation II) Bard twisting 6.0 / dps songs Mage debuffing Malos III Mana Necklace VIII Spell Used -- Yamakagi's Fiery Passion Inferno III (T7) Practice Dummy on 1/4/2013 in 182sec Total --- DMG: 211393377 (100%) @ 1161502 dps (1051708 sdps) --- DMG to PC: 60 @60dps Oneshothot --- DMG: 211393377 (100%) @ 1161502 dps (1051708 sdps) --- DMG to PC: 60 @60dps Special: 7: 7th yr vet G: Glyph K: Kiss S: Staunch X: Slain $: Saved by DI Produced by GamParse v1.0.3 Title: Re: New weapon Delay / DPS parses! Post by: Natedog on January 04, 2013, 06:55:27 am Kraken will lower a monks DPS with the current attack speed if you are using 6.0s or LOWER (w/ rank 8s)
Monk 6.0s x2 NS8 x2 -- IS 8 x4 Self Buffs (Crab Fu) Bard + TB3 + 6.0 Enchanter doing 30% magic debuff Practice Dummy on 1/4/2013 in 187sec - Monk + 30% magic debuff + bard twisting Total --- DMG: 132546577 (100%) @ 708805 dps (708805 sdps) --- DMG to PC: 1 @1dps Croissant --- DMG: 132546577 (100%) @ 708805 dps (708805 sdps) --- DMG to PC: 1 @1dps Special: 7: 7th yr vet G: Glyph K: Kiss S: Staunch X: Slain $: Saved by DI Produced by GamParse v1.0.3 =================================================================== =================================================================== Monk 6.0s x2 NS8 x2 -- IS 8 x4 Self Buffs (Crab Fu) Bard + TB3 + 6.0 Enchanter doing 30% magic debuff Shaman doing Kraken II - Lowered my dps! lol Practice Dummy on 1/4/2013 in 181sec - Monk + 30% magic debuff + bard twisting + Kraken II (lower dps lol) Total --- DMG: 120941771 (100%) @ 668187 dps (668187 sdps) --- DMG to PC: 6 @0dps Croissant --- DMG: 120941771 (100%) @ 668187 dps (668187 sdps) --- DMG to PC: 6 @0dps Special: 7: 7th yr vet G: Glyph K: Kiss S: Staunch X: Slain $: Saved by DI Produced by GamParse v1.0.3 =================================================================== =================================================================== Monk -- Best dps Halloween 1hb IV x2 Kraken II Bard + Tb3 Crab FU Practice Dummy on 1/4/2013 in 184sec -- Monk + Halloween IV weapons + Kraken II + Bard Total --- DMG: 175445257 (100%) @ 953507 dps (953507 sdps) --- DMG to PC: 2 @0dps Croissant --- DMG: 175445257 (100%) @ 953507 dps (953507 sdps) --- DMG to PC: 2 @0dps Special: 7: 7th yr vet G: Glyph K: Kiss S: Staunch X: Slain $: Saved by DI Produced by GamParse v1.0.3 =================================================================== =================================================================== Gotta wait till 7.0s to use Kraken it looks like otherwise you hit the proc limit and start missing out on your Ninjastrike 8s. Which then you will lose DPS overall. But currently Halloween weapons are the best bet ... Will test 7.0s once I finish two for the monk! Title: Re: New weapon Delay / DPS parses! Post by: Felony on January 05, 2013, 01:16:30 am Warrior
CT pet buffs only. No other buffs used. Epic 6.0 x2 IS8 IS8 Nerd4 / IS7 IS7 Nerd4 Practice Dummy on 12/30/2012 in 333sec Felony --- DMG: 23740765 (9.25%) @ 71724 dps (71294 sdps) ------ Total: 23740765 -- DirDmg: 20338200 -- Slash: 3402565 ------ Normal rate: 54.5% (84.4% of DMG) -- Critical rate: 45.5% (15.6% of DMG) Epic 7.0 IS9, Epic 6.0 IS7 IS7 Nerd4 Practice Dummy on 1/5/2013 in 180sec Felony --- DMG: 41863260 (100%) @ 232574 dps (232574 sdps) ------ Total: 41863260 -- DirDmg: 40887000 -- Slash: 976260 ------ Normal rate: 59.4% (95% of DMG) -- Critical rate: 40.6% (5% of DMG) ------ Attempts: 534 -- Hits: 534 -- Misses: 0 -- Defended: 0 -- Accuracy: 100% Epic 7.0 x2 IS9x2 Practice Dummy on 1/5/2013 in 180sec Felony --- DMG: 47253888 (100%) @ 262522 dps (262522 sdps) ------ Total: 47253888 -- DirDmg: 46350000 -- Slash: 903888 ------ Normal rate: 51% (98.4% of DMG) -- Critical rate: 49% (1.6% of DMG) ------ Attempts: 420 -- Hits: 420 -- Misses: 0 -- Defended: 0 -- Accuracy: 100% Title: Re: New weapon Delay / DPS parses! Post by: Camric on January 05, 2013, 05:08:30 am Any parsing done since the DPS changes should be taken with a big grain of salt when doing short parses. Due the weapon delays and big damage, the parsing time will have to be much longer to get an accurate number. The possibility of having a few good rounds can drastically effect the numbers on short parses. It probably needs to be 30-60 minutes to get a reliable number.
Title: Re: New weapon Delay / DPS parses! Post by: Felony on January 05, 2013, 05:11:57 am I agree and only posted what my average length of combat is when doing T6 trash or anything T5 and below.
Serious number crunching requires parses of length to account of RNG and dumb luck. Title: Re: New weapon Delay / DPS parses! Post by: Nashoba on January 05, 2013, 12:27:48 pm Any parsing done since the DPS changes should be taken with a big grain of salt when doing short parses. Due the weapon delays and big damage, the parsing time will have to be much longer to get an accurate number. The possibility of having a few good rounds can drastically effect the numbers on short parses. It probably needs to be 30-60 minutes to get a reliable number. When i parse i do 3 30 min parses and combine them to almost eliminate rng doing its own thingTitle: Re: New weapon Delay / DPS parses! Post by: jmaneuv011 on January 06, 2013, 09:20:07 am How would Kraken possibly lower dps? Does it replace the aug proc or something?
Title: Re: New weapon Delay / DPS parses! Post by: Natedog on January 06, 2013, 09:39:25 am How would Kraken possibly lower dps? Does it replace the aug proc or something? Yes with strike 8s you have a possible 6 different procs 3 in each weapon. Max proc limit per combat round seems to be 4. So a proc will be pushed off if a kraken lands. Strike 8 procs > kraken --- so when a strike is replaced you lose dps. Title: Re: New weapon Delay / DPS parses! Post by: cerwin on January 06, 2013, 09:53:14 am How would Kraken possibly lower dps? Does it replace the aug proc or something? Yes with strike 8s you have a possible 6 different procs 3 in each weapon. Max proc limit per combat round seems to be 4. So a proc will be pushed off if a kraken lands. Strike 8 procs > kraken --- so when a strike is replaced you lose dps. My SK is landing 6 procs every round. 3 x FS5, epic lifetap, kraken, shroud of discord Title: Re: New weapon Delay / DPS parses! Post by: hateborne on January 06, 2013, 11:27:39 am Paldial and Felony, I am sorry to ask this, but could we get UC version as well? It's generally assumed to be UC or UCv2, but it's still highly relevant info.
-Hate Title: Re: New weapon Delay / DPS parses! Post by: Felony on January 06, 2013, 11:37:33 am UCv2 for those
Title: Re: New weapon Delay / DPS parses! Post by: hateborne on January 06, 2013, 12:13:46 pm Wizard
5.0, UCv2, Curious Creation II Timeless: Haste and Koadic's Boundless Intellect II Bard Twisting (no epic click) + Harmonious Composition Rank 1 (sadface) Only using Hateborne's Glacial Gift! Practice Dummy on 1/6/2013 in 519sec Total --- DMG: 351088965 (100%) @ 676472 dps (676472 sdps) Hateborne --- DMG: 351088965 (100%) @ 676472 dps (676472 sdps) ------ Total: 351088965 -- DirDmg: 351088965 Produced by GamParse v1.0.3 -Hate Title: Re: New weapon Delay / DPS parses! Post by: Aggressive on January 06, 2013, 07:37:19 pm Also, don't forget the higher tier mnk epics have a cure proc which might be causing the proc limit to be reached even sooner.
Title: Re: New weapon Delay / DPS parses! Post by: cerwin on January 06, 2013, 07:48:54 pm Also, don't forget the higher tier mnk epics have a cure proc which might be causing the proc limit to be reached even sooner. We sure about a proc limit? Like I said before, my SK is landing 6 procs every round. 3 x FS5, epic lifetap, kraken, shroud of discord. This is with sword and board. Title: Re: New weapon Delay / DPS parses! Post by: lerxst2112 on January 06, 2013, 08:24:06 pm We sure about a proc limit? I've looked at that code a lot, and I see no limit. Every possible proc can fire every round. There can be a proc on the weapon, a proc on each aug, and up to 4 additional procs added by SE_AddMeleeProc or SE_WeaponProc. The only limit is the 4 slots for spell based procs like Kraken. If there are already 4 spell procs on someone then any additional attempts to add them fail. Title: Re: New weapon Delay / DPS parses! Post by: cerwin on January 06, 2013, 10:22:40 pm We sure about a proc limit? I've looked at that code a lot, and I see no limit. Every possible proc can fire every round. There can be a proc on the weapon, a proc on each aug, and up to 4 additional procs added by SE_AddMeleeProc or SE_WeaponProc. The only limit is the 4 slots for spell based procs like Kraken. If there are already 4 spell procs on someone then any additional attempts to add them fail. Good to know. So the only way someone should hit a limit is if they are using more than 4 spell based procs. I dont think thats even possible right now? Would have to be Kraken, Tempest, and 3 more... Title: Re: New weapon Delay / DPS parses! Post by: Felony on January 07, 2013, 01:27:17 am You say it shouldnt matter but that is not what my parse are showing.
However people can form their own opinions after parsing their own setup. Title: Re: New weapon Delay / DPS parses! Post by: Natedog on January 07, 2013, 01:30:07 am I'll try some longer parses and use MQ2 to parse the procs per round .. once I eat dinner heh
Title: Re: New weapon Delay / DPS parses! Post by: lerxst2112 on January 07, 2013, 02:07:11 am The code is pretty straightforward, but procs are random. Just because they can all fire in one round does not mean they ever will. Title: Re: New weapon Delay / DPS parses! Post by: hateborne on January 07, 2013, 07:43:04 am Also, don't forget the higher tier mnk epics have a cure proc which might be causing the proc limit to be reached even sooner. The cure component is a DEFENSIVE proc. It has no effect on the combat rounds as it procs from BEING struck, not striking. -Hate Title: Re: New weapon Delay / DPS parses! Post by: hateborne on January 07, 2013, 08:05:11 am Anyone have UCv2 berserker?
-Hate Title: Re: New weapon Delay / DPS parses! Post by: Venia on January 07, 2013, 11:45:54 am I do Hate, but not really active theese days
/Enosis Title: Re: New weapon Delay / DPS parses! Post by: hateborne on January 07, 2013, 12:02:46 pm I do Hate, but not really active theese days /Enosis Would you be willing to let me parse it? I can turn it on and set it on Surefall test dummy with logging on. I will only need access for ~60min this evening. -Hate Title: Re: New weapon Delay / DPS parses! Post by: Venia on January 07, 2013, 03:44:34 pm of course mate, PM send
/Enosis Title: Re: New weapon Delay / DPS parses! Post by: Felony on January 07, 2013, 06:14:25 pm Few more runs through anguish and i'll have ucv2 on my zerker woo woo. Going to be some nice dps.
Title: Re: New weapon Delay / DPS parses! Post by: hateborne on January 07, 2013, 10:27:24 pm Thanks to Enosis/Venia for letting me test the zerk. I greatly appreciate it.
Berserker 6.0 Epic, UCv2 Ancient: Vampiric Thunder ~NOT using Pincer Attack~ Practice Dummy on 1/7/2013 in 381sec Total --- DMG: 185164160 (100%) @ 485995 dps (485995 sdps) --- DMG to PC: 375 @1dps Ragingfury --- DMG: 185164160 (100%) @ 485995 dps (485995 sdps) ------ Total: 185164160 -- DirDmg: 183099800 -- Slash: 2056409 -- Frenzy: 7951 --- DMG to PC: 375 @1dps Berserker 6.0 Epic, UCv2 Ancient: Vampiric Thunder ~Using Pincer Attack~ Practice Dummy on 1/7/2013 in 451sec Total --- DMG: 262413852 (100%) @ 581849 dps (581849 sdps) --- DMG to PC: 385 @1dps Ragingfury --- DMG: 262413852 (100%) @ 581849 dps (581849 sdps) ------ Total: 262413852 -- DirDmg: 260147860 -- Slash: 2256560 -- Frenzy: 9432 --- DMG to PC: 385 @1dps Produced by GamParse v1.0.3 -Hate Title: Re: New weapon Delay / DPS parses! Post by: Felony on January 22, 2013, 05:52:11 pm Not like it matters to anyone but I finally got around to afk'ing for awhile on the practice dummy.
No buffs at all, afk attacking 7.0 IS9 x2. Gamparse dies when I try to copy it, some shit about how Int32 values suck. It boils down to this- Time: 8390 DPS: 302406 Title: Re: New weapon Delay / DPS parses! Post by: Felony on February 03, 2013, 07:04:30 am Brokyn asked if I would do another parse this time using Custom T7 weapons. 1hs main hand 1hp off hand.
Same as last time. No buffs, no songs, no help, just pure afk beat the snot out of the dummy. I was killed by a moss snake near the end! I stopped the parse at about 1hr otherwise gamparse whines about value exceeding limit. Practice Dummy on 2/3/2013 in 3570sec Total --- DMG: 1098461124 (100%) @ 307692 dps (307692 sdps) Felony --- DMG: 1098461124 (100%) @ 307692 dps (307692 sdps) ------ Total: 1098461124 -- DirDmg: 1046115000 -- Slash: 31210605 -- Pierce: 21135519 ------ Normal rate: 49.6% (96% of DMG) -- Critical rate: 50.4% (4% of DMG) ------ Attempts: 12192 -- Hits: 11936 -- Misses: 256 -- Defended: 0 -- Accuracy: 97.9% |