EZ Server

UPDATE

Today we deleted over 2.7 billion platinum and 9,438 items.

Today we banned 7 players for having too much platinum or too many high value items that seems extremely unreasonable to acquire.

A single player with all his accounts linked together via same IP address had 2.2 billion total platinum.

A single character all by itself had 800 million platinum.

There were several other different players with huge amounts also.

Essences, Mana Necklaces, and Strike Augments have all been made no-drop.

Enjoy!

did I understood that right that the strike augs which I made for my toons and still have them in my Bank for saving them to do ns IX its now not possible to pass them over? That would mean that I can destroye them and do with all my toons the crafter Guild ? I really think that this is hard to the players which work hard for getting forward and spend so much time in the game. There must be an other way to get ride of cheating players and not punishing all the other players.

Nice, maybe now I can finally sell my Artisan seals!

So now all characters have to do Crafters Guild quest if they want to progress at all. Lost 2 FSV's I was going to trade over to a new character that are on my warrior now, kinda useless and pointless to make augs No Drop/No Trade

Not really active these days, but would like to point out that essences/augs are pretty much the only trade currency between players (least it was when i was active just before t7 launch)


/Enosis


p.s good job on the bans, if they were cheating in any way

All that going no trade will surely hurt the economy but I really hope the mana necklace and augs get reverted.

Essences - no drop  >:(  now you must loot the essence with the right toon
and toon must be in crafter guild for make an upgrade

We have players with their banks being loaded with bags completely full of strike 8 and 9's.

Seriously, who being legit has like 50+ Strike 9 augs in their bank?

can i have some

then delay them or bann the people!
If I just think about what others will loose, I havent much but collected all essences on 1 char to do aug for my toons, have saved up 30 t5 and about 35 t6 essences (never sold one) couldnd use it because on lack of pp. Now I loose the essences have to start running after them again and also the pp honestly I am loosing the the mood to do so.

.... A lot of dirty $ still out there too ..  :o

Hmm now I got a ton of useless essences on my warrior  :'(

Any chance you'll let us know who got banned.
I've been suspicious that someone found a new dupe method and guess this basically confirms it.

These ass clowns really messed it up for the whole server.

What I really hate more is all the people who knew or was part of.. magically getting all their guy bought and paid for.. all augs to IX magically.. and they are still playing.. while those around suffer with lock down of earned items..

Blame those who knew/know... Also I'm sure the quicker this gets plugged... Hunter may or may not relax on some of this(no idea, but I could see him keeping this on lockdown) ... Still up to him .. those guys really fucked us all.

This is akin to banning hand guns for 100% of the population because 1% breaks the law....or banning cars because a small percentage drives drunk and causes fatalities.

Sorry, H, but I really think this is a bad move. Ban the culprits, dont punish players obeying the rules.

No wonder no one ever wants to fight for the Gem Collector. That's insane; who does something like that and says "Yes. This is a good idea. Surely no one will ever notice 800 million!"? Oh well, I won't complain too much, it's my own fault for not putting the FS V on my Pally after having it for three weeks. I shouldn't be so lazy about simple things.

Any chance of getting the essences changed back? I have 89 Tacvi essences on my warrior that I was saving for my rogue to get UW2. Now I have to farm those all over again, when I was almost done.

It really makes me not want to play anymore, just thinking about the time I've now wasted.

That doesn't even take into account the essences I have saved for augs for various characters. That's a lot of wasted hours/days.

I hope this "no notice" change is reversed.  It hurts the entire community of boxers who push one toon through the Crafter's guild to make augs for their entire crew.  A simple notification that it was going to happen would have sent everyone scrambling to split that duty (and those essences) up.

The upside... Someone can have an Enchanter with UW in a couple of weeks =)

omg this sux i had all my essences on my warrior to make augs for my alts now they all nodrop and the augs i had made up on my warr also not very happy atm

BOO.
yea fuck those guys who are cheating.

This is also hurting the 99% who play by the rules.

I hope the essence/aug thing is changed back.

I also think it would be a good time to add in an instant ban for RL $ transactions now.  There is a lot less temptation for people to cheat in a game if there is no money to be made.

+1

well i hope Hunter is going to think through the ramifications of this. i am all for banning cheaters and such. but most of the population, has 1 toon in their box army that is in crafters, and that toon usually gets all the essences. so i gues there will be a sudden demand for Artisans seals as it is basically required like caster/fighters. and you need to make sure to loot that essence with the right toon .. or it essentially goes to waste.  Just thinking of alll those now wasted essences that will rot, glad i moved some around last night ... guess i will get to making tons of seals

hello, I have to ask because quite a few!

what is the worse off if someone saves 100 billion together?
personal for me, but what already very stupid because I lent someone Firestrike augsments is he in his own quiet farming can and now I'm going to get them ever again? I think it's wrong to go so before!
I will save 1 billion now and then I'll banned because I have so much money?
stand in front of forgiveness Mr. Bill Gates, but they have too much money I have, unfortunately, they now ask leave everything and live for the rest of her to go to jail because it is too much the own!

Hunter, I’ll state the obvious; you run a kick-ass server here. It's also great to see you take action on cheaters (at the IP level).

However, the changes you made in this update go far beyond punishing the cheaters and cleaning up the economy. I've never broken the rules of this server and I just had a huge chunk of my investment in all my characters taken away from me.

I’m just about to break into T5 and my goal was to aug up but all of the essences I've saved to do this are now worthless sitting in my War’s bank (seems we all do this). I'd be stupid to start over again.
Sorry to say, this may be it for me. I’ll stop logging in for now and hope something changes soon.

I agree with the above poster. I lost 10 strike 5 and 7 each of strike 7 and 8 that I was saving and upgrading to convert to 9s when I got into t7. That is going to be a ton of wasted time, essences, ezcredits and plat if the change is permanent. Its pretty disheartening.

I can understand completely! we invested a lot of time in order to get his characters deal with augments and other things and of course I loote not, so the bard still need 5 God Minor so I loote now 5 God Minor  Bard no of course I loote on my main active character! I know that someone has 2 FS yesterday and get the lie on a Warrior FS on Warrior! more need not tell you do not even comb her to act on his Pala or SK!

some things are just too extreme sorry I just can not understand the words you Cheator welcome but must now suffer 30-60% of people under here? for most, it is still very difficult to farm augments the first, and then they share their first so-half finished and now it is also worthless! I think it has to be balanced one can not simply equate to 0 with one drawer!

All because of a fucking idiot!!

Wow.. I have a ton of essences banked on my warrior for my alts. Was planning on starting another Shield of the Ages or Ancients for alt warrior and upgrading NSs. Now I can't trade anything to do this.

Point in short. You did a sweep and found some ppl cheating some how... you banned them...good. But this is a little extreme. Keep up the sweeps...ban the folks you consider cheating...but don't punish the rest of us please. If I did something you found bannable then ban me... dont punish the rest of the server. Now I am looking at having to farm everything all over again on the toons that need it....looting stuff only on those toons. Having to get every single toon crafters guild flagged in order to upgrade a strike or whatever.

Understand you are frustrated...and prolly down right pissed but you banned the guilty folks and put the message out and I am sure the rest of the server got it but please dont punish the other 98% of us that enjoy your server, play by the rules and appreciate the hard work you do to make our gameplay enjoyable.

Thanks for listening

Mixlor

x2

I'm hopeing that this "lockdown" is a temporary thing to prevent other Wrong do-ers from moving there ill gotton wares around in attemps to hide them.

After his investigation and Ban-hammering is done,  hopefull Hunter will undo the new flags and things will go back to Normal.

I keep everything on my Warrior, all the Essences, all the SLS, all the plat i have and extra strike augs from Halloween event. 40 anguish and 30 Loping plains on him now that are of no use. I am really disappointed to see this harsh of a penalty,

I hope this is correct, Nexxel.  Seems a knee-jerk reaction to someone's cheating.  I think it would be a great idea to "lock-down" the server and investigate and ban-the-dog-shit out of everyone who is cheating!

We have had several dupe bugs in the past.

A good way to prevent 99% of dupe bugs, both known and unknown, is having stuff lore and no-drop.

Today we are hopefully fixing 2 more dupe bugs.

Figured a no-drop flag on certain items in question would help to lock things down until I figure out the full extent of whats going on, and how its being done. Deleting your stuff won't work since I have backups to look at.

Originally when I figured out something was going on, I thought it was the new source code allowing F2P/RoF client which does have dupe bugs and is why I disabled it for now. I thought maybe the few hours that RoF client was allowed is when players duped everything, but I can see stuff was duped before that update, so it wasn't RoF.

So the dupe bugs was not new source code. It was something else and hopefully its fixed now.

There is better than 50% chance that no-drop will remain on essences and their final recipe combines. Two reason for this. In case another dupe bug comes up in the future. Second, low level players don't need to be running around with high level augs, SoA, or anything else that essences make. Otherwise I just might as well make all armor tradeable. You can still buy rots off each other like with charm upgrades. At least this way you at least have to be flagged for the zone to get someones rot. A player with a SoA XLV and Strike IX is like a Super Power Level to T6 or T7.

Over the years, essences and their recipe rewards have become just too powerful and too much of a power level for noobs. Someone suggested making an item on a vendor in each custom zone required in recipes to make sure that even if a player bought the essence they are still flagged for zone that the essence drops in. This might be a possible cheap fix, and there might be other possible fixes in the recipes to make sure noobs don't wield a Strike IX. We'll work on that later.

If there is any chance of taking off the no-drop tags, then I would have to wipe (DELETE) all the essencess and non-inserted augments from everyone since the market is insanely flooded with these items now. There are 1,000's of Essence of Loping Plains already and that zone just came out! Even we do vote for a wipe all essences/augs to make them tradeable again, I'd have to find a way to make them not useable by noobs, such as revamping a lot of recipes first.

Server should be back up now. Going to test some stuff real quick, then I'll unlock it.

How can a noob use a Strike 9? Requires a 7.0

Ok, strike 8's

Still won't help us who earned our augs and essences, now they will remain stuck on the characters we had them on, useless forever and wasted tons of money we spent hours to make. I can see a lot of players either quitting new or old over this, because that's time we will never get back

Hunter,

If you are able to determine who the cheaters are, I fully support bans and deletions.  There are, however, a large majority of us who have played by the rules and have also used a single toon to bank important items for our toons, and in some cases for our guilds.

I hope that you can find a way to do this without deletion of a lot of people's hard work, and without maintaining the no-drop tag on essences and strike augs.  N00bs can't end up with strike 9 augs without a 7.0, and for that they need to complete the armour for every tier up to T6.

There are several posts on here referring to how they played by the rules but do all the looting, storing, crafting, etc. with one character and now all of that farming for other chars is in vain.  Many of us have invested many hours/days into this process and it was changed with no notice.  We understand the reason you did this but if it is more than temporary it is kind of a slap in the face for the time and effort we have put into this server.

Would it be possible after your bans and lockdowns to have a 24 or 48 hour period for folks to move stuff around to the chars that really need items and then going forward it is no drop?  I know this isn't what most would like but it at least gives them an opportunity to make it right.

Epic changing ;p


1.5-4.0 Slot type 1 and 2 ( IS NS FS V max )

4.5-6.0 slot type 3 and 4 ( IS NS FS I up to VIII useable ) now noobs cant use Mega Strike augments

SotA extra mold on upgrade need 1-5 Qvic Mold can buy for 0 PP in Qvic Entrance Vendor / 6-10 Tacvi Mold 0 pp Tacvi Entrance / ................................ 41-45 Loping Mold 0 PP from Lopingplains Vendor at entrance ;p now u need a flag to use the stuff !!!

by the way same u can use for Strike augs but now problem is tradeable better 2 system of slots and augs !

what ever u can bind need the mold and only able to use if flagged and the mold are able for no-drop ;p how looks that ?

Possible way to keep augs used for toons flagged for certain tiers is to make them only useable on the >= corresponding Tier

Epic 3.0   - up to IV  (or w/e for the aug type)
Epic 3.5   - up to VI
Epic 4.0   - up to VII  

Something to that effect.      Requires work obviously.  

If you do decide to continue with them being no drop.   Would it be possible to give us some time to move the essences/augs to other toons?   Based on what you wrote my understanding is that you have already identified the dupe culprits.     Like many posts have stated,  many people have 1 toon in the CG and that toon becomes the defacto essence holder.     Also, with the addition of the UW people were farming up other essences as well and they may not have been on the toons they were looted for.  

Ya different slot types on epics would be a way to keep noobs from placing uber Rank 8s in their 3.0 heh

Editing slot types will help, and will probably do that next.

If I make essences and augs tradeable for a short time, then some will complain they were at work or vacation during the short time allowed to trade. So would still be some unhappy players.

I'm trying to fix 1 more thing, and I might look at just wiping out essences from certain players, then making them all tradeable again.

Working on it currently, will update when I have more info.

Well personally I can say there is a huge chance that I won't be on during the " possible " time allotted to trade essences and augs due to the fact i work 12-16 hours a day, with only the chance of weekends off for the 352nd Special Operations Group, US military and as shit boils overseas I'll be with the first ones sent due to the fact of being in the Africa/Europe/Middle East regions already.

I would suggest keeping them No Trade until the new Slot/Tier required Augs are implemented, see how that goes then release them back to tradeable, which in essence
( no pun intended ) would allow us a use for plat again since lets face it, prices are not what they used to be when you can get a T5 drop for 50k.... and guild instances don't cost 100k anymore

Yeah, I understand you dont want cheaters, but this really isnt a good way to go about it in my opinion. But your sandbox, your rules. But this move really makes me rethink about investing my time and gaming dollars here. Sorry, dont mean to whine, but it does. There's got to be a better way of handling this than punishing the 99.9% of players who are following the rules....and thats exactly what this move does.

How about keeping augs at the level epic you have?
1.0-2.5=strike 1-2
3.0-4.0=strike 3-6
4.5-5.0=strike 7
5.5-6.0=strike 8
7.0=strike 9

Then no skipping/jumping...and will help slow folks down so they dont steamroll content.
Edited: trying to make post constructive and not sound like a tool.

I also agree with making augs limited to epic level.  That alone is a great idea.

i really think u banned the duping person normaly we are all now okay 100% rule following players atm online more or less ;p

do all to the old style and work on an system how to avoid the OP lowies

SotA / ManaNeck / Ultimate Weapon / Strike Augments !

and about 1000 Loping Essence sniff... i was one run on tour whis blarr and i saw popping like 20-25 Wrath = 20-25 Essence... what ever i clear never looted more as 5 Essence !!!

Server still down right now cause I'm cleaning up the database if there is any chance for removing the no-drop tag, in addition to requiring aug slot changes.

Right now I'm working on items.

Might do a plat wipe too, haven't decided yet. Maybe anything over 25 or 50 million plat which seems to be the average legit high for end gamers.

Just learned how to use that plat wipe tool myself!  :P

Had to edit it though since I had values breaking the max platinum =\


Really glad something is being done though. Random people duping to finish UW9 is pretty lame

If you are to make the augs lelved to some epics my suggestion would be 5.0 and up strike 8's. (Party because withough the 5.0 you cannot even enter anguish and alot of 5.0's are already equiped with 8's

Right now focusing on items/plat on certain people/guild. Some will be banned, and some will have plat/items reduced or deleted. Trying not to hurt the 99% of the population. Still actively working on it and realize EZ is still down. We'll be up again today. Might even allow trading again, and then work on new aug slots for strike augs by next reboot after we're up.

Public Hanging!! Let us know who these fucktards are. !! I mean come on these guys still have 100 millions across toons!!

and for the 1st person that says maybe they farmed it..  a quick Bullshit is in order I can farm the hell out of money and don't have 100M across any toon. And most of these pukes are short time players..

100mil isnt much you slacker.. if you did more than RoA you might have decent money!


edit... jump on TS3 Fugi!

Not saying I can't and don't farm that much pp but these guys don't have the resources you and I have to do it across multiple toons bro that is the issue...

And my broke ass is good on cash atm =D I got enough to make the last 2 ranks of UW... when ever you give me your essences... wait.. nm..

 sec on ts3 brt

So far the players/guild I'm targeting will be having over 2.7 billion plat total deleted.

This is just a test on a backup copy to make sure I don't screw up the live database.

I really like the epic aug restriction idea, its fair and balanced.

for SOA there should be restrictions set as well, ie:

SOA 1-5 must be T1 flagged
SOA 5-10 must be T2 flagged
SOA 10-15 must be T3 flagged
SOA 15-20 must be T4 flagged
SOA 20-25 must be T5 flagged
SOA 25-30 T6
31+ SOA = T7 flagged

instead of flagging epics you could just require flag for aug

strike 1 or 2 = T3 flag
strike 3-4 T4 flag
strike 5-6 T5
strike 7-8 T6
strike 9 T7

and the final combine is no drop, so you can trade the essences all you want, but you cant make a strike 9 on a toon that is T4 flagged, and you cant trade it to him either because the final combine is no drop.

which means everyone will have to do crafter's guild quest, whats the wrong in that? really? its a pretty easy quest.

Honestly Guys everyone has these awesome fixes.. I'm not going to take that away from any of ya'll at all..

Hunter made a choice to lock things down  for a while

-yeah it sucks / sucked

-it also prevented any further economy hiccups while he can take a chance to look at this and get some type of fix going.

-He was up working on this most of yesterday evening and now today too, so he didn't forget about us and wasn't just planning on leaving it as is.. (he needed sleep yo!)

-Hunter listens to the community and makes changes and adjustments as he can we all know this due to the recent changed in EZ as a whole for the good.

Lets all just relax and be calm and keep giving good ideas and or code so he can get a fix in order, so we all can dance with our essences and augs on whatever toons they are on.

The good thing is sounds like most of the assclowns will be banned/stripped or whatever not effecting the normal players as much.

By the way there are a lot of ass clowns that are still out there that know they bought "hot shit" ... come on. quit being a fucking tool and don't play dumb its obvious.

I just deleted 9438 items from the inventory table. Sometimes an 'item' could be a stack. So a stack of 100 would count as 1 item (with stack count of 100).

This is in addition to the plat getting deleted.

And yes, I had to sleep last night, woke up a few hrs ago.

Sweet, glad you are able to dig through and find the stuff and get it deleted. Would be nice if we were able to get names of the people so we can publicly scorn them. Thank you for the update.

I can't wait to see the gimps that got shit deleted come to forums and QQ about how they got it...

I personally dont see an issue with "op" augs on lower tier characters. If they really have a huge need to burn through content most of them will probably quit in t5. The faster they can get there the faster we can get the bandwidth back. That being I dont think too many people would be upset if they were limited by epic level.

Even after the plat wipe, there are still top 100 players with between 5-68 million plat each.

Well i for one have no augs yet but  been enjoying getting ready for T3/4 . Just saddened that there are some female dogs that got greedy and hurt a fun server

I might be done here soon.

I've updated Magelo.

I want between 5-68 million plat, no clue what id spend it on tho lol

but im sure I could have a SOA on someone! that is if I can buy the essences lol

a clean slate is always a good thing when you notice the balance is way out of wack though

good move Hunter, and looking forward to seeing some constructive ideas come out of this on needed changes so it doesn't happen again

Best way to prevent duping in the future is making everything no drop lore but that would suck.

For now we did some cleaning up and fixed some of the dupe exploits.

Essence and Augs might be tradeable again soon, but might need to redo the recipes and aug slots first.

The players that got wiped were either obviously cheating or part of a guild.

If anyone in this group that isn't banned lost a Reward Item in their bags that got deleted, then let me know and I'll reimburse that depending who the person is. Anyone claiming that they lost a reward item that didn't have one to begin with will get banned for wasting my time. To get the reimbursement, I will be doing this manually in game, no cd keys.

Server coming up soon. Can't think of anything else to wipe for now.

I think that a list of the toons that were banned would be a good thing.  It would let the server know who the bad guys were, and public humiliation would be a good deterrent for people planning similar exploits.

There are a total of 168 people on the list. A lot of them probably alts and such.

Some got banned, and they all got plat wipe and most of their inventory wiped.

The ones that didn't get banned may end up quitting after this which is fine.

Again, I am willing to reimburse certain reward items to certain players based on what the logs show that the player got from the Rewards NPC but would have to reimburse in person.

Server is up and unlocked now. Will see how bad they complain soon here.

If I start changing the Epic Weapons aug slot types, and the strike aug slot types, then players might not be able to remove their augs before upgrading their Epic weapon, and then would lose their augment.

How else could we make augments work on specific epics without anyone losing their augs later?

Need to find a way to do this before I make strike augs and essences tradeable again.

Wondering if you change the aug slot type on an epic that already has an aug in it, can a person still log in and remove the old aug?

Probably not, would need to try it on a test server.

That would be the issue. If a player can't take out the aug, then it would be lost when upgrading your Epic.

This may be a good time convert to new style 1 aug slot epics. We could just hand in the epic for the new version or something. Or maybe not, just an idea. Good work though Hunter

change current epics to crappy stats, people clear the augs out and can hand in old 4.5 for new improved 4.5 with limited augs.  Kinda leave it to their choice; awesome augs with a crappy weapon or better weapon and still good augs?

Turn all the existing epics into weapons that have no stats. Same with the augs. People can then de-aug their epics and turn them in for the new epic with correct stats. Same thing with augs.

You beat me to it. Oh, well, leaving it up there. Is good idea. If it was not for fliker making me laugh dr pepper out my nose I would have posted first.

Mission accomplished  ;D

I was able to remove a type 4 / 8 aug from a Slot type 2  using a distiller after changing the weapon

Could change all current augs to ... Feet slot only augs those breaking all weapons...

Players trade the old aug in for a new aug to a vendor.

I just woke up and read this thread and I have several ideas for how to fix things.
If Hunter wants my help in any aspect I'll get to coding.

Hunter,

There are no exploits that exist in RoF that doesn't exist in other clients as far as I am aware.  All client use the same code as far as items are concerned.  If something is possible to exploit for duping in RoF, then it should be possible for all previous clients.  The RoF client definitely does allow certain things with items that previous clients did not, but using hacking tools like MQ2 could accomplish the same thing on any other client.  We have to make sure the server won't allow duping in any scenario no matter what client it is.  Basically, we never trust what the client is telling us, we always have to rely on what the server knows about the items, they should never just come out of nowhere.

I did get a report of a duping issue on RoF (which I am not going to go into detail here just in case), but it turned out to just be a de-sync of the client and the server's inventory.  That means that to the client it appeared to be duping items, but when they zoned or relogged, all of the items were gone, and never actually existed server-side.  If the item does not exist server-side, then it should be impossible for it to be used in any way including tradeskills, click effects, sold, etc.

Of course, if there is a dupe issue possible in RoF, make sure to let me or one of the other devs know as much detail as possible on it and hopefully we can duplicate it and resolve it ASAP.  As I said, if it exists in RoF, then it should exist in all other clients as a possibility.  The main difference between clients are the packets that get sent, which ideally should not break the code that deals with items in any way.