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Title: Updates 05-02-13
Post by: Hunter on May 02, 2013, 08:34:55 pm
ToFS Floors 4+ now drop only charm upgrade v2 instead of choosing from either v1 or v2.

Shaman Epics now will have cast time of 9 seconds instead of 20 seconds.

Other minor ninja tweaks to spell resistances and priority orders from npcs.


Title: Re: Updates 05-02-13
Post by: hateborne on May 02, 2013, 08:37:19 pm
ToFS Floors 4+ now drop only charm upgrade v2 instead of choosing from either v1 or v2.

Shaman Epics now will have cast time of 9 seconds instead of 20 seconds.

Other minor ninja tweaks to spell resistances and priority orders from npcs.

Heh WTB New spells for enc/dru/shaman, PST. :-P


-Hate


Title: Re: Updates 05-02-13
Post by: Fugitive on May 02, 2013, 08:42:58 pm
Shaman epic buff duration should be a little longer then it is..  but other that that cool edits!


Title: Re: Updates 05-02-13
Post by: Hunter on May 02, 2013, 09:06:25 pm
Yeah, hate added some new spells, now I gotta put on loot list soon.


Title: Re: Updates 05-02-13
Post by: Rent Due on May 02, 2013, 10:07:29 pm
Shaman epic buff duration should be a little longer then it is..  but other that that cool edits!

+2

armor of crab lasts like 3 hours, shammy epic is what 35mins?

should be at least on line with that, 3 hrs would be sweet :) just saying


Title: Re: Updates 05-02-13
Post by: Sarthin on May 03, 2013, 02:10:36 am
Nice quality of service change with the Shaman epic click. Thanks! :)


Title: Re: Updates 05-02-13
Post by: Expletus on May 03, 2013, 09:01:48 am
Any tweaks to the enraged shadow beast on floor 3 ?


Title: Re: Updates 05-02-13
Post by: hateborne on May 03, 2013, 09:37:09 am
Shaman epic buff duration should be a little longer then it is..  but other that that cool edits!

+2

armor of crab lasts like 3 hours, shammy epic is what 35mins?

should be at least on line with that, 3 hrs would be sweet :) just saying

Nah, you'll live. It's ~60min and Crab is significantly less HP. Crab is 10k and 20k, while shaman epic is ~1.5k - 66k.


-Hate


Title: Re: Updates 05-02-13
Post by: Peign on May 03, 2013, 09:52:19 am
Compare Crab and Blessing of Oak to Shaman buff.   Crab 3 hrs,   Blessing of Oak is 2 hrs, Shaman buff 35 min.    This logic makes no sense.    I see no reason why shaman buff couldnt be longer.    Whats the reasoning behind having it shorter?

Making the shaman buff 1 hr makes sense when compared to the other HP buffs.




Title: Re: Updates 05-02-13
Post by: Mattnaik on May 03, 2013, 10:09:44 am
Compare Crab and Blessing of Oak to Shaman buff.   Crab 3 hrs,   Blessing of Oak is 2 hrs, Shaman buff 35 min.    This logic makes no sense.    I see no reason why shaman buff couldnt be longer.    Whats the reasoning behind having it shorter?

Making the shaman buff 1 hr makes sense when compared to the other HP buffs.




At a 9 second cast time...who cares?


Title: Re: Updates 05-02-13
Post by: Peign on May 03, 2013, 10:20:18 am
Apparently people that play and actually use a shaman do care.   People that do not play and or use a shaman do not care.   

Shouldnt matter if the buff is 1 hr,  if you do not play regularly or do not use a shaman it has no impact on you.


Title: Re: Updates 05-02-13
Post by: Mattnaik on May 03, 2013, 10:22:38 am
Apparently people that play and actually use a shaman do care.   People that do not play and or use a shaman do not care.   

Shouldnt matter if the buff is 1 hr,  if you do not play regularly or do not use a shaman it has no impact on you.

Brilliant logic. No idea the point you are trying to make though. I play a shaman and I have no problem rebuffing every 36 minutes. As long as the buff lasts longer than the cooldown on MGB not sure it makes much of a difference.


Title: Re: Updates 05-02-13
Post by: hateborne on May 03, 2013, 10:28:22 am
Compare Crab and Blessing of Oak to Shaman buff.   Crab 3 hrs,   Blessing of Oak is 2 hrs, Shaman buff 35 min.    This logic makes no sense.    I see no reason why shaman buff couldnt be longer.    Whats the reasoning behind having it shorter?

Making the shaman buff 1 hr makes sense when compared to the other HP buffs.

The shaman buff is the highest amount of raw HP (barring ungodly high end characters and Blessing of Ancient Oak scaling). It was also the first "real" HP buff for EZ Server. The Armor of the Crab came later (with T3/T4). The Blessing of Ancient Oak came just this last month. 



Apparently people that play and actually use a shaman do care.   People that do not play and or use a shaman do not care.  

Shouldnt matter if the buff is 1 hr,  if you do not play regularly or do not use a shaman it has no impact on you.

When I play, I kept a shaman close. The cast time didn't bug me then and doesn't bug me now. The lack of AoE healing did bother me, so I corrected that. :-)



I know this seems like I'm picking on you, but that's part of EQ. Not every class will be the same simply because the other class gets something. Hunter may change this, but I'm not going to attempt it. I like having classes with differing abilities on differing timers. Makes it a bit harder to dump all buffs across all characters, then park half of your raid until you wipe.

Sorry :-)


-Hate


Title: Re: Updates 05-02-13
Post by: Peign on May 03, 2013, 10:34:47 am
Apparently people that play and actually use a shaman do care.   People that do not play and or use a shaman do not care.   

Shouldnt matter if the buff is 1 hr,  if you do not play regularly or do not use a shaman it has no impact on you.

When I play, I kept a shaman close. The cast time didn't bug me then and doesn't bug me now. The lack of AoE healing did bother me, so I corrected that. :-)


-Hate


Thats cool.   We all adapt and overcome.    Just putting the vote out there for a 60 min duration on shaman buff is all.      The aoe heal on shaman and druid were great changes, thank you.    Also, blessing of oak is a cool spell. 

just my 2 cents (worth about .5 cent in todays economy)


Title: Re: Updates 05-02-13
Post by: hateborne on May 03, 2013, 10:35:51 am
just my 2 cents (worth about .5 cent in todays economy)

LoL inflation on opinions.


-Hate


Title: Re: Updates 05-02-13
Post by: Rent Due on May 03, 2013, 10:38:35 am
youre correct Hate, it does last longer than MGB, etc

its the point of remembering 6 different timers to recast everything on everyone

why not just make it simple and say all buffs last 1 hour?

what does that really, really affect? why is that so far fetched?

why does krakkin (sp lol) last for only 2 mins? is it because you want me to mindlessly hit a hotkey every 2 mins? or write a macro to hit that hotkey every 2 mins?

why does my sword and shield clickie vanish when I zone?

/joking on

the logic I guess would be that you want to make sure I have the item, can find the item and click the item everytime I zone, or pay the price of doing without the buff?

I know, what am I thinking, its because maybe my finger broke and I wont be able to rebuff, now it makes sense as to why it has a shorter buff time :)

can you smell what the smartarse is cooking? lol /joking off

seriously tho, 1 hour buff for all buffs? crab, krak, epics, shield, sword, nothing vanishing on zoning

why not just make it easy to remember and such? its a custom server, can do anything you want, why not simplify it, streamline it, fun for all

/shrug I am being unreasonable

yes Fugitive......QQ as well I guess lol


Title: Re: Updates 05-02-13
Post by: Peign on May 03, 2013, 10:48:50 am
why not just make it easy to remember and such? its a custom server, can do anything you want, why not simplify it, streamline it, fun for all


+1 

None of us playing on EZ are playing EQ, we are playing EZ!     If it was truly like EQ I wouldnt be playing here period.


Title: Re: Updates 05-02-13
Post by: Fugitive on May 03, 2013, 10:51:49 am
logic

7.0 65k buff 35 min buff

T1 BoAO ≈ 133k 3 hr


do whatever


Title: Re: Updates 05-02-13
Post by: Camric on May 03, 2013, 02:49:25 pm
why not just make it easy to remember and such? its a custom server, can do anything you want, why not simplify it, streamline it, fun for all


+1 

None of us playing on EZ are playing EQ, we are playing EZ!     If it was truly like EQ I wouldnt be playing here period.



Lets be honest,  the grind on EZ is not much different than live.  In fact, may be more of a vertical climb when considering tiers and number of characters it takes to progress.  Any of the top players can testify to the time required to progress.



Title: Re: Updates 05-02-13
Post by: Peign on May 03, 2013, 03:13:21 pm
why not just make it easy to remember and such? its a custom server, can do anything you want, why not simplify it, streamline it, fun for all


+1 

None of us playing on EZ are playing EQ, we are playing EZ!     If it was truly like EQ I wouldnt be playing here period.



Lets be honest,  the grind on EZ is not much different than live.  In fact, may be more of a vertical climb when considering tiers and number of characters it takes to progress.  Any of the top players can testify to the time required to progress.



Grind is one thing, EQ dynamic is another.    EZ is not EQ.   


Title: Re: Updates 05-02-13
Post by: Camric on May 03, 2013, 03:29:25 pm
why not just make it easy to remember and such? its a custom server, can do anything you want, why not simplify it, streamline it, fun for all


+1 

None of us playing on EZ are playing EQ, we are playing EZ!     If it was truly like EQ I wouldnt be playing here period.



Lets be honest,  the grind on EZ is not much different than live.  In fact, may be more of a vertical climb when considering tiers and number of characters it takes to progress.  Any of the top players can testify to the time required to progress.



Grind is one thing, EQ dynamic is another.    EZ is not EQ.   


Would you mind clarifying what "dynamic" means?   Also, how is EZ not EQ?


Title: Re: Updates 05-02-13
Post by: Sarthin on May 03, 2013, 03:41:49 pm
Well one thing is (or rather was) different on EQ live. People usually only played one character. On this server we have from 1, to 6 to 12 to 18 characters boxed. It is obviously a big quality of service if the casting time on buffs are shorter and perhaps also the duration of some buffs longer.


Title: Re: Updates 05-02-13
Post by: Peign on May 03, 2013, 04:09:40 pm
Well one thing is (or rather was) different on EQ live. People usually only played one character. On this server we have from 1, to 6 to 12 to 18 characters boxed. It is obviously a big quality of service if the casting time on buffs are shorter and perhaps also the duration of some buffs longer.

+1


Title: Re: Updates 05-02-13
Post by: Rent Due on May 04, 2013, 07:23:15 am
I'll be honest, I would just like all the buffs to be the same timer because it would make it easier to remember when to rebuff.

I am less concerned with the duration of the buffs

with so much of "our" game automated I personally just lose track of it during mindless farming. When I am doing something that actually requires me to focus on what I'm doing then its less of a hassle to remember to rebuff. Often times it is muscle reflex that rebuffs my crowd lol