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Title: Hunter I need hugs and love and less nerfs. xoxo Balls
Post by: Balthor on May 18, 2010, 11:23:44 am
A friend reminded me of something.
Remember on the previous forums when you set the access lvl for hatelist and I posted a lot of screen shots of the wack ass fucking damage shit was doing. (war 450k, paladin 60k, magepet 1.2mil etc etc etc)
Remember that shit man?
I remember you saying you would look into class balance. Instead you been swinging a mother fucking nerf bat around like it was the 80s and you worried that shit was going out of style.

Hey dude, that shit did go out of style, now its time to start loooking at class balance.


Title: Re: Calling you out Hunter
Post by: Reed on May 18, 2010, 02:06:30 pm
Completely agree with this post, as vulgar and threatening it is. This has been addressed before without any signs of being fixed.


Title: Re: Calling you out Hunter
Post by: Lodar on May 18, 2010, 02:10:41 pm
Arent Paladins already balanced?
I mean they do what they do best... die before anyone else.. thats honor!

 ;D


Title: Re: Calling you out Hunter
Post by: Bikaf on May 18, 2010, 02:52:39 pm
Arent Paladins already balanced?
I mean they do what they do best... die before anyone else.. thats honor!

 ;D


haha


Title: Re: Calling you out Hunter
Post by: Balthor on May 18, 2010, 03:21:43 pm
hahah that is true


Title: Re: Calling you out Hunter
Post by: Sickem on May 18, 2010, 04:04:58 pm
There is error in this post. Historically rangers should die first!  ;D


Title: Re: Calling you out Hunter
Post by: Xiggie | Stone on May 18, 2010, 04:10:32 pm
There is error in this post. Historically rangers should die first!  ;D

True but rangers usually die somewhere off in the distance where no one sees them.


Title: Re: Calling you out Hunter
Post by: Allizia on May 18, 2010, 04:37:06 pm
Going through the classes and evaluating them / parsing / testing etc from low end to high end works better then wtf it r broken, fix it now ^.^

Show some real numbers from parses and suggestions



Title: Re: Calling you out Hunter
Post by: Allizia on May 18, 2010, 04:46:06 pm
From what I've seen rogues/monks need a slight boost combined with a moderate boost for rangers/rogues/monks. Paladins need help but no one knows wtf to do with them to help. I don't now much about necros, but pets seems to be where they should be. Wizards are utterly and completely useless throughout their entire existence until very late in the game, then they have the capacity to blow all other dps out of the water. Warriors are ehh... a bit much, everyone knows it, no one wants to admit it because we all have one.


Title: Re: Calling you out Hunter
Post by: ieawenpo on May 18, 2010, 04:51:17 pm
I dont believe there is anything "unbalanced", but mostly needs to be tweaked.
There are issues with each class that needs to be addressed, but nothing to get vulgar about.
Hunter or any server admin time is precious, so, if you had to chose between new extended content or class tweaks etc, what would you prefer?

Me, the server is pretty much free.
Im not one to complain about free service and when he gets around to tweaking the classes, fine by me.


Title: Re: Calling you out Hunter
Post by: Eliseus on May 18, 2010, 04:55:25 pm
From what I've seen rogues/monks need a slight boost combined with a moderate boost for rangers/rogues/monks. Paladins need help but no one knows wtf to do with them to help. I don't now much about necros, but pets seems to be where they should be. Wizards are utterly and completely useless throughout their entire existence until very late in the game, then they have the capacity to blow all other dps out of the water. Warriors are ehh... a bit much, everyone knows it, no one wants to admit it because we all have one.

I dont have one


Title: Re: Calling you out Hunter
Post by: Balthor on May 18, 2010, 07:35:03 pm
Going through the classes and evaluating them / parsing / testing etc from low end to high end works better then wtf it r broken, fix it now ^.^

Show some real numbers from parses and suggestions



Want to see parses go find the 2 previous EZ forums and look at my posts that have #hatelist screen shots.
I did have parser parses but when I took a short break I had a HD go pewpewsplat and is no more.


Title: Re: Hunter I need hugs and love and less nerfs. xoxo Balls
Post by: Reed on May 19, 2010, 11:13:52 am
In the bard section on this forum, there is a sectiont that links to the old forum, could probably navigate to your old posts from there


Title: Re: Hunter I need hugs and love and less nerfs. xoxo Balls
Post by: Balthor on May 19, 2010, 11:45:23 am
Im not going to take the time to relink/post them.
If Hunter cared he saved them. If anyone else cared they could have moved them.
I dont care, I know better then to do that. Shit changes as the owner sees fit when he sees fit. My little /poke poke posts are just to heckle him a little, maybe get him to consider it again. Dude is super busy with life and shit so stuff gets whatever it gets whenever it gets it.
At least this shits not KMRA or Gaylaya. Its no THF tho, could take a page outa that servers playbook.


Title: Re: Hunter I need hugs and love and less nerfs. xoxo Balls
Post by: Reed on May 19, 2010, 01:09:17 pm
I keep imagining what a server what crosses SoD reliability, fine tuned custom content, etc... and EZ's lack of drama (mostly) and GM corruption.

Would be an exciting concept.

Dany should help me set up a server =(
I wanna experiment!


Title: Re: Hunter I need hugs and love and less nerfs. xoxo Balls
Post by: Balthor on May 19, 2010, 08:58:35 pm
Yea SoD was the shit back in the day before they let in those corrupt ass mother fucking GM's and some of the staff just went retarded. IE: Thinkmeats the faggot


Title: Re: Hunter I need hugs and love and less nerfs. xoxo Balls
Post by: Reed on May 19, 2010, 09:36:44 pm
Yea SoD was the shit back in the day before they let in those corrupt ass mother fucking GM's and some of the staff just went retarded. IE: Thinkmeats the faggot

That faggot Woldo and his trailer park trash fucking buddies shitting up the server. The whole Nexess thing that came up and was all shady. It was low... really low


Title: Re: Hunter I need hugs and love and less nerfs. xoxo Balls
Post by: Eliseus on May 19, 2010, 10:03:45 pm
What's SoD?


Title: Re: Hunter I need hugs and love and less nerfs. xoxo Balls
Post by: Hunter on May 19, 2010, 10:32:00 pm
A friend reminded me of something.
Remember on the previous forums when you set the access lvl for hatelist and I posted a lot of screen shots of the wack ass fucking damage shit was doing. (war 450k, paladin 60k, magepet 1.2mil etc etc etc)
Remember that shit man?
I remember you saying you would look into class balance. Instead you been swinging a mother fucking nerf bat around like it was the 80s and you worried that shit was going out of style.

Hey dude, that shit did go out of style, now its time to start loooking at class balance.


I changed the Paladin Epics today. Fixes may not be perm, and may still change, but let me know how it works out.

Edit: Effective after next 6am reboot.


Title: Re: Hunter I need hugs and love and less nerfs. xoxo Balls
Post by: Reed on May 20, 2010, 10:31:54 am
This is a Dmg/ Dly change? Any change to the effect?


Title: Re: Hunter I need hugs and love and less nerfs. xoxo Balls
Post by: Balthor on May 20, 2010, 02:55:19 pm
oh lordy lordy I have to log in and test it now ;)


Title: Re: Hunter I need hugs and love and less nerfs. xoxo Balls
Post by: Lodar on May 20, 2010, 03:02:39 pm
Maybe now they will be able to kill freeport rats... well at least if they pull 2 at same time they might survive longer...

Maybe ill start playing my paladin Hopeless! :)


Title: Re: Hunter I need hugs and love and less nerfs. xoxo Balls
Post by: Balthor on May 20, 2010, 06:34:27 pm
well i tried out the paladin for a few min and noticed it was doing a lot more damage but was still really bad.
I'll take any increase over no increase however


Title: Re: Hunter I need hugs and love and less nerfs. xoxo Balls
Post by: Reed on May 20, 2010, 06:36:43 pm
how much of an increase? still at work atm


Title: Re: Hunter I need hugs and love and less nerfs. xoxo Balls
Post by: Balthor on May 20, 2010, 11:39:14 pm
well its been a few hours since you posted so i assume you got home and checked it out.
I need to get gamparse up and check it out to give a real solid opinion.


Title: Re: Hunter I need hugs and love and less nerfs. xoxo Balls
Post by: robpickles on May 21, 2010, 08:48:55 am
well its been a few hours since you posted so i assume you got home and checked it out.
I need to get gamparse up and check it out to give a real solid opinion.

Let us know how it goes Balthor....

This may be the first small step into make Paladins an effective class.


Title: Re: Hunter I need hugs and love and less nerfs. xoxo Balls
Post by: Gnaughty on May 21, 2010, 10:42:44 am
Aww shit don't tell me I got a level an outfit a whole new char, now i got to go create a paladin to see if they are cool.


Title: Re: Hunter I need hugs and love and less nerfs. xoxo Balls
Post by: robpickles on May 21, 2010, 10:47:53 am
Aww shit don't tell me I got a level an outfit a whole new char, now i got to go create a paladin to see if they are cool.

LOL!  Well you don't HAVE to....

At least us saps who made one already can get to try something new with them!  :D


Title: Re: Hunter I need hugs and love and less nerfs. xoxo Balls
Post by: Reed on May 21, 2010, 10:52:15 am
Paladin update was "meh" at best. More dmg, which was nice.... but not enough to make me play him again as part of my group.


Title: Re: Hunter I need hugs and love and less nerfs. xoxo Balls
Post by: zomgDanyelle on May 21, 2010, 10:57:21 am
Paladins are so screwed it would honestly take more than an epic tweak to fix them, it would require  spells/discs and stat tweaking probably. We should just delete them ;P


Title: Re: Hunter I need hugs and love and less nerfs. xoxo Balls
Post by: Uxt on May 21, 2010, 11:08:54 am
WTF! Hunter, you're supposed to make a promise to update paladins, and then ignore the class for 6 years. That's what Sony did... you're doing it wrong!

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We should just delete them ;P

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Title: Re: Hunter I need hugs and love and less nerfs. xoxo Balls
Post by: Uxt on May 25, 2010, 08:13:33 pm
Okay. Crunching numbers, here's what's up.

The lowered delay actually lowered top-end damage. Far less damage bonus, higher base damage... it amounts to like .5% less damage after the change. No big whoop. Not talking DPS, just "how high" a hit can land for. As for DPS, it went up from about 1050 to about 1300. What this means is that warriors are no longer seven times better than paladins, they're only five times better! :P

The faster swings allows more chances for the heal proc to go off, so that's nice.