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Title: Spells 12-25-13 Post by: Hunter on December 25, 2013, 04:04:34 am Spell file 12-25-13 now available.
Title: Re: Spells 12-25-13 Post by: clbreastmilk on December 25, 2013, 01:58:17 pm Any patch notes? :)
Title: Re: Spells 12-25-13 Post by: WatchYouDie on December 25, 2013, 07:07:41 pm Nice idea on the Sk clicky however 18 sec buff with 6 min recast with 4 sec delay on server=no help better off with old click
Edit proc also isnt function proc says unknown spell and i have new spell files. I also see no new spam from the spell either Title: Re: Spells 12-25-13 Post by: hateborne on December 26, 2013, 08:51:46 am Knights:
Paladins:
Shadow Knights:
Other:
NOTE: SK 1h proc is still screwy. I found the issue and have written up a fix to be committed tonight. -Hate Title: Re: Spells 12-25-13 Post by: clbreastmilk on December 26, 2013, 09:37:14 am Thanks for the updates Hateborne!
Is this patch, assuming full use of spells showing an increase to healing for a 2h healerdin? I can't seem to figure it out by reading the above. The tankadin improvements seem awesome. Title: Re: Spells 12-25-13 Post by: Chunka on December 26, 2013, 10:27:03 am Hate, I logged in Brick last night, and all I can say is "FUQ YEAH!!!". GREAT work. Pally with 2h was healing very well.....maybe too well. He solo'd T6 mobs and lost 0 hps with the 2h. Well, ok....lost 50Kish max, but immediately healed. Took a couple hours to kill....
Also....the weapon proc seems to trip with attack on, no mob hit. Intended? Title: Re: Spells 12-25-13 Post by: Raygan on December 26, 2013, 10:40:33 am Why was the healing proc removed off the cleric epic? (referring to 7.0) after some discussion seems it has the same proc as the pally 1hs (since this is meant to be tankish) just wondering if this needs to be looked at...not trying to be confrontational just trying to supply feedback
Title: Re: Spells 12-25-13 Post by: hateborne on December 26, 2013, 11:03:11 am Also....the weapon proc seems to trip with attack on, no mob hit. Intended? Could you clarify? Are you saying it's proc'ing from autoattacking the air? Ran a test this morning in ToV with my lead Pal (1HS+Shield - near full T8 - No SOA - ROA 162) and 2nd Pal (2HS - nearly identical equips). I can see a marked difference in tanking ability with #1. However, #1 still cannot tank a single trash mob and #2 can't keep him healed even with cleric added. Not because he can't take the melee damage, but because he can't resist the 850k DD. There is an in game solution if I want to spend a couple of weeks in ToFS building up resists 5 points at a time. I have three questions: 1. Why should this have to be the new way of the world where you can't progress to the next tier once you defeat the current without returning to ToFS? 2. Why should combining two 50 point Resist augs result in a 55 point Resist aug? 3. Why should the trash in a zone insta kill a Tank toon that is nearly done with that zone? Thankfully, I have a War with all the toys so I don't have to rely on my Pally to do the heavy lifting. However, I do like to have a backup plan in case things go sideways because I was late mashing a button so I will do the grind work to up the resists on the Pal because I embrace the grind, but things are getting a bit wonky now. My suggestions to answer the 3 questions : 1. Add Resist Augs equal to the tier to bosses in that tier. 2. Make resist aug combines 1 + 1 = 2, 1 + 2 = 3 (like the leaf). 3. Halve the DD from trash mobs. 850k damage on a 1.3 mil HP bar from trash is too much. No offense intended, but this isn't the place for this. Start a thread to discuss this type of thing. This is simply a patch note post. If you have issues pertaining SPECIFICALLY to these updates, then you are in the right place. Why was the healing proc removed off the cleric epic? (referring to 7.0) still has the clicky heal but not the proc.....hope this is in error. It was not touched. If the proc wasn't there before the 25th, then it wasn't ever on there. My patch notes are always thorough unless they deal with internal things (pet stats, npc stats, or rule values). -Hate Title: Re: Spells 12-25-13 Post by: Kwai on December 26, 2013, 12:34:03 pm Point taken... great update.
Title: Re: Spells 12-25-13 Post by: Chunka on December 26, 2013, 04:11:54 pm Quote Could you clarify? Are you saying it's proc'ing from autoattacking the air? Seems it, Hate. Title: Re: Spells 12-25-13 Post by: Felony on December 26, 2013, 05:08:27 pm Knights: Ok the healing changes are cool but the part I quoted is dumb dude.
Epics have shit for stats. The dps of any/every class is either UW or 99% their augs. Lowering stats like hp/mana/white dmg on these epics was not needed at all. Anyways, looks good so far. I like the 2h proc. Have yet to test the 1h version. Dont take anything I say here the wrong way, just my honest opinion. Title: Re: Spells 12-25-13 Post by: marxist on December 26, 2013, 05:24:43 pm Procs seem cool. Don't get the delay / hp change. With the hp change, no other class has different hp on their epics, kind of arbitrary and really doesn't do anything. With the delay, the 2h proc is what is used to heal... again why? (Odds are the delay change is pointless anyways, but these changes seem like changing something just for the sake of changing something. Not quite sure what the point is.)
Title: Re: Spells 12-25-13 Post by: Felony on December 26, 2013, 05:38:14 pm I tested both weapons and I love the effects on them. Sad about loss of hp on the 2h as its a great weapon to use in t8 for lower hp tanks but overall its pretty sweet.
I just need to unlazy myself and go farm more leafs for warrior so I can slap some on my paladin and then with 1h he'll be a very viable tank since I did remove all but one paladin from my setup. /cheers Title: Re: Spells 12-25-13 Post by: Chunka on December 26, 2013, 08:38:43 pm Did the changes make it to the T7 epic augs? Severs linked his today and looks unchanged.
Title: Re: Spells 12-25-13 Post by: WatchYouDie on December 26, 2013, 10:18:00 pm the LT proc part of the 1hd isnt being effect by UC
Title: Re: Spells 12-25-13 Post by: WatchYouDie on December 27, 2013, 11:48:28 am Im not really sure what we are trying to go for here with the SK epic proc, howerver adding a memblur proc to a class that doesnt have roll over hate issues is just basically going to cause those issues later on. Furthermore why do i get a dot on myself that decreases my dmg/skills modifier by 50% then a song that increases by 50%. the 50% buff becomes null and void when the Dot is on me and i still end up losing 50% of my even now more crappy white dmg thanks to it being lowered. This may seem like QQ im just trying to figure out what is trying to be accomplished here cause right now i am a joke it takes me almost a full minute to kill t5 coral.
I am assuming that the Dot was suppose to go onto the mob and not the player? Also please please remove the memblur effects now. this is only going to make an sks ability to ever tank worthless. If you dont believe me cast memblur on a mob from a chanter while your tank is tanking and see what happens even if you do add the +Hate modifier Memblur on live was bad about dropping the tank and the other toons stayed on hate list and all but tank are sitting at bind. Though i do appreciate the concept the idea isnt going to work anywhere near as intended. Sks dont generate the hates war do. I HAVE NEVER ONCE got hate roll over on my toons. with the proper classes and properlly assisting wars shouldnt have the issue either. Title: Re: Spells 12-25-13 Post by: Kwai on December 27, 2013, 12:19:16 pm Quote with the proper classes and properlly assisting wars shouldnt have the issue either. I never had the issue either... until T7. Proper assisting has nothing to do with the threat roll over in later levels. Title: Re: Spells 12-25-13 Post by: Peign on December 27, 2013, 12:27:16 pm Quote with the proper classes and properlly assisting wars shouldnt have the issue either. I never had the issue either... until T7. Proper assisting has nothing to do with the threat roll over in later levels. The threat rollover adds to the challenge. Without it all fights would be /attack on /afk. There are plenty of items in game that help mitigate the rollover. I do not think we need any more items and or any more changes to try to mitigate threat. We are good to go as is. Title: Re: Spells 12-25-13 Post by: WatchYouDie on December 27, 2013, 12:36:19 pm Quote with the proper classes and properlly assisting wars shouldnt have the issue either. I never had the issue either... until T7. Proper assisting has nothing to do with the threat roll over in later levels. Most people dont have the issue till t8. Prob means you are assisting on your DPS classes to early. Proper assisting has everything to do with it instead of just turning on attack and hitting assist key turn on attack wait 5-10 sec then turn on assist key and see the difference Title: Re: Spells 12-25-13 Post by: Raygan on December 27, 2013, 04:32:18 pm That has nothing to do with agro roll over...agro roll over is because your main tanks hate number rolls over and he gets bumped to the bottom of the agro list....nothing to do with waiting 10 seconds on assist.
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