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Title: 3 group setup Post by: Warbash on July 20, 2014, 12:50:52 am Hi guys,
Looking for some suggestion on my 3 group makeup. all are T4 4.0, 1 war 2 pal and 2 mnk have uc rest are close to all 4 charms @ 25. Below is my group, I have another mnk, brd, bst and clr, should I swap them in for another char in one of the groups? Does anyone suggest I change the layout of my groups? 1 War 2 Pal 3 Brd 4 mag 5 shm 6 enc 7 war 8 pal 9 mnk 10 zerk 11 wiz 12 dru 13 pal 14 bst 15 mnk 16 rng 17 mnk 18 clr EDIT** I could do just 12 as some peeps in chat suggested too took another stab at it 1 war 2 war 3 pal 4 brd 5 enc 6 clr 7 pal 8 mnk 9 mnk 10 zer 11 bst 12 shm 13 pal 14 mag 15 wiz 16 rng 17 mnk 18 dru Title: Re: 3 group setup Post by: Chunka on July 20, 2014, 07:30:45 am Again, pretty much any combination will work, but you need to MAKE it work. Delve into the class, find out what makes it tick. See what appeals to you about it, and work it. Dont be one of these guys in T7 or so with few if any strike augs, no SoA, no mana necks, etc. Wring every freaking bit of juice you can from whatever class you pick. Hate's worked on classes a TON, so even if you wanted to do sk/druid/sham/ench/bard/bst, you could, and you could make it work.
Know the spells. Know the clickies. Know how some spells and class abilities work together here. Then invest the time, money and effort in making those classes stand up and sing. Title: Re: 3 group setup Post by: krazycrakker on July 20, 2014, 09:22:54 am the multiple group set up can work but i am testing the theory that it can all be done with 1 group. i am t4 4.0 (minus my ranger who is t3 3.0 due to switching out from my mage) but im learning that if you take the time to slow down (as mentioned above) and aug UC RoA (minimum) your group will move fluidly no matter the make up as long as you take the time to learn what they can and cant do and utilize that with the advice from /ooc
Title: Re: 3 group setup Post by: hardcoretank on July 20, 2014, 09:33:14 am I have a small group of 6 warrior/druid/ranger/rogue/monk/zerker and i blow shit up with the right augs.... but its all about investing in making the augs and spending the time back tracking for what ya need... but dont get me wrong i also 12box too when i want to insta gib something =p
Title: Re: 3 group setup Post by: Rent Due on July 20, 2014, 09:35:00 am utilize that with the advice from /ooc ya I give great ooc advice. so does kruciel Title: Re: 3 group setup Post by: krazycrakker on July 20, 2014, 09:36:25 am LOL Rent :) there are a few of you guys that give great advice. and amazingly that its not all the same yet works very well if you take it all in stride and make it work for your self its gold :)
Title: Re: 3 group setup Post by: Expletus on July 20, 2014, 09:46:34 am Dont be one of these guys in T7 or so with few if any strike augs, no SoA, no mana necks, etc. Wring every freaking bit of juice you can from whatever class you pick. This is me. While it's cool to rock out 18 toons it's taxing collecting gear and UC them. It was a long road, which could have been easier if I did 12 and maxed their shit out first but that's the path I took. Title: Re: 3 group setup Post by: Rent Due on July 20, 2014, 09:47:04 am honestly the quality of advice from the top end crew is dependent on mood, question and number of questions before your questions lol
Title: Re: 3 group setup Post by: krazycrakker on July 20, 2014, 09:49:53 am honestly the quality of advice from the top end crew is dependent on mood, question and number of questions before your questions lol how true this is HAHAHA altho even the sarcastic advice usually rings at least 2% truth Title: Re: 3 group setup Post by: Kruciel on July 20, 2014, 09:52:49 am warrior
pally bard zerk zerk zerk pally bard druid zerk zerk zerk pally zerk zerk zerk zerk zerk andddddd done ;D Title: Re: 3 group setup Post by: Chunka on July 20, 2014, 09:56:02 am Quote honestly the quality of advice from the top end crew is dependent on mood, question and number of questions before your questions lol Not to mention the amount of beer and/or controlled substances consumed. Title: Re: 3 group setup Post by: krazycrakker on July 20, 2014, 09:58:35 am Quote honestly the quality of advice from the top end crew is dependent on mood, question and number of questions before your questions lol Not to mention the amount of beer and/or controlled substances consumed. its legal here in washington :) Title: Re: 3 group setup Post by: Expletus on July 20, 2014, 10:10:27 am Yes, i bet you clearly wanted it for medical purposes.... ::)
Title: Re: 3 group setup Post by: krazycrakker on July 20, 2014, 10:12:13 am its now recreationally legal :P
Title: Re: 3 group setup Post by: Expletus on July 20, 2014, 10:13:49 am Im referring to the dirty hippies that are lobbying for it to be legal for medical reasons when really they just want to collect disability and smoke weed all day.
Title: Re: 3 group setup Post by: Quarg on July 20, 2014, 10:14:16 am Im referring to the dirty hippies that are lobbying for it to be legal for medical reasons when really they just want to collect disability and smoke weed all day. I only want to smoke weed all day. Title: Re: 3 group setup Post by: Expletus on July 20, 2014, 10:19:08 am Im referring to the dirty hippies that are lobbying for it to be legal for medical reasons when really they just want to collect disability and smoke weed all day. I only want to smoke weed all day. (https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/5889900544/h8BEE9F59/) Title: Re: 3 group setup Post by: Chunka on July 20, 2014, 10:19:15 am (http://wac.9ebf.edgecastcdn.net/809EBF/ec-origin.chicago.barstoolsports.com/files/2012/08/cartman.jpg)
Title: Re: 3 group setup Post by: clbreastmilk on July 20, 2014, 10:27:37 am 1 box T9 is very doable and could be done with less (mass pull with just war/druid is viable with riposite mechanics). As for your group, it really just depends on how much work you are willing to put in for the amount of toons you decide to play with. Specifically, your tank/heals/dps looks fine. Could min max a bit but the only real sore thumb is the beast and for all we know, hate might buff that class by the time you hit top tier.
First decide what your goals are and depending on where you are in progression, try and gauge where you might burn out. If you have some super high threshold for burning out, 18 toons with that setup will be just fine. More DPS = Faster clears. Someone with 12 toons will progress faster than 18 but once every toon is max aug/UC the benefit should be there depending on the toons and what tier. If you are one shot'ing mobs it doesn't really matter how many more you bring. Duplicates of classes and enmass armor types may slow you down. T5 will see lots of slow down for multiples of the same class, with some slow down in T4/T8. If you have for example, tons of plate users, you will see slow down in T1/T2/T3 and possibly T9 could be argued. I see in your edits you added another warrior. My personal opinion is I would Never roll another war for min max reasons. I see no use for it other than another agro crutch while adding yet another plate user to the box that can't use NS/FS augs. Getting that druid drake skin buffs is Key. Title: Re: 3 group setup Post by: Expletus on July 20, 2014, 10:40:57 am I dunno if the beast is the sore thumb at the moment. The T8 bst pet his quad hitting 100k+ and flurry/rampage. Im contenplating dropping my 2nd monk for the beast. I think the pet is great but the base class needs something to give it a little bump.
Title: Re: 3 group setup Post by: Chunka on July 20, 2014, 10:48:26 am My 8.0 bst fully buffed hits 225K max, though the most common hit is around 150. Grudge dramatically increases the damage and the pet hits. And while the BST pet has about half the hps and 2/3 the defenses of a mage pet they have zero issues right now with rampage death and riposte death for me....even with their Wild Rampage ability!
The biggest thing you can do for your BST pet, though, is to add the Earring of Brutal Ages to the bst. The pet gets the effect bonus! Hate added this in a couple days ago. Cant wait to try it! Title: Re: 3 group setup Post by: Expletus on July 20, 2014, 10:59:46 am Would love to see this added...
http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/spell.html?spell=27203 and this ! http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/spell.html?spell=27228 Title: Re: 3 group setup Post by: Warbash on July 20, 2014, 12:08:49 pm Thanks all,
Yeah three is too much for sure, and you are right in needing to understand the classes better. So much has changed and for the better :). My goal is to have fun and I hate grinding the super special items that take for ever, UC probably taxes my patience the most but with ToFS (just went 1st time last night) thats gotten better. So with that said what would be a good core 2 group? Most my toons are up to strike V or VI? Regardless I'll keep reading the past updates to get up to speed. Thanks again :) Title: Re: 3 group setup Post by: Expletus on July 20, 2014, 12:17:16 pm War/or Sk
enc shm druid pal bard mnk rng rog bst pal mage/necro/or bard/melee should be a solid 12. Title: Re: 3 group setup Post by: balidet on July 20, 2014, 06:18:46 pm WAR
PALLY DRUID BARD CHANTER SHAMMY PALLY ZERK ZERK ZERK ZERK ZERK PALLY ZERK ZERK ZERK ZERK ZERK GAME OVER Title: Re: 3 group setup Post by: hardcoretank on July 21, 2014, 06:34:54 am WAR PALLY DRUID BARD CHANTER SHAMMY PALLY ZERK ZERK ZERK ZERK ZERK PALLY ZERK ZERK ZERK ZERK ZERK GAME OVER well 3rd group should be Pally BL BL BL BL BL that way u got some single target with some AOE VIA the pets =p NINJA AUGS FTW!!! Title: Re: 3 group setup Post by: balidet on July 22, 2014, 08:07:51 pm That could be the 4th group sir
Title: Re: 3 group setup Post by: Rent Due on July 24, 2014, 10:41:06 am WAR PALLY DRUID BARD CHANTER SHAMMY PALLY ZERK ZERK ZERK ZERK ZERK PALLY ZERK ZERK ZERK ZERK ZERK GAME OVER well 3rd group should be Pally BL BL BL BL BL that way u got some single target with some AOE VIA the pets =p NINJA AUGS FTW!!! TBH, you should have another group too, Druid Mage Mage Necro Necro Necro |