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Title: Hatestomp Aug
Post by: Raygan on October 08, 2014, 06:09:45 pm
Was wondering if it would be possible to visit making this aug a combat proc.  I made a 2 hand UW and put one of these in it, and as it stands currently is not very useful to be "ultimate"....or maybe the next rank or so...with a UCv3 it doesn't do jack to any trains I make in Qvic (where a good click on my Angerbomb clicky will(which is odd because base dd on Hatestomp is 9k and Angerbomb is 2500 both have a range of 60))....after looking at it I think it is safe to say this aug is just not working atm...


Title: Re: Hatestomp Aug
Post by: Gannicus on October 08, 2014, 06:35:27 pm
I second this. As it stands (mind you it's only a first rank) I don't see the aug being very good as a 12 second CD click. I was excited at first when I saw it because I thought it was a combat aoe anger aug for UW which would allow me to switch over to the 2H UW on my warrior. Alas no such luck and with such a long cooldown it would still make angerbomb the go to aoe aggro source if you do even go 2H.


Title: Re: Hatestomp Aug
Post by: Rent Due on October 08, 2014, 08:26:56 pm
+1

combat proc makes much more sense, yet another clickie....aggg


Title: Re: Hatestomp Aug
Post by: hateborne on October 08, 2014, 08:31:26 pm
The point isn't to rival the Anger augs (which are kind of high to begin with), but a snap aggro tool. The damage is low and will be revisited soon. :-)


-Hate


Title: Re: Hatestomp Aug
Post by: Warbash on October 08, 2014, 09:15:16 pm
The point isn't to rival the Anger augs (which are kind of high to begin with), but a snap aggro tool. The damage is low and will be revisited soon. :-)


-Hate
Seriously? Anger augs too high?


Title: Re: Hatestomp Aug
Post by: Krinkle on October 09, 2014, 12:41:13 am
I agree on looking into making hatestomp a proc, its messesed with a set up half of the warriors i know use, And snap agro isnt really needed in any situation i can think of that AE taunt doesnt cover already (taunt moves you to top of hate list no mater what on success, AE taunt is guaranteed no fail taunt.)


Title: Re: Hatestomp Aug
Post by: demorgoth on October 09, 2014, 01:16:04 am
Agreed on making hatestomp a proc rather than clickie, would make it alot more practical. As we already have angerbomb, rampage and ae taunt to assist us with snap aggro management. However since alot of warriors now utilize the 2hs variety of UW it would be nice to have something similar to an anger aug in our arsenal, or potentially add a slot for us to put in an anger aug or two into the UW.

Another issue I have run into not sure if others using hatestomp have encountered. Is that despite it stating 12 second CD, I have had it take upto 45 seconds to reclick the hatestomp proc.


Regards,

Dem


Title: Re: Hatestomp Aug
Post by: Raygan on October 09, 2014, 06:55:32 am
I like the fact that Hatestomp has only 100k hate versus the 250k on the Anger 6...but the anger 6 is a lot easier to get and has a 22,500 dd (single target)....I think one of the things on the Hatestomp atm is the fact that you cant test it to see what damage it does properly since the click doesn't seem to be working at all.


Title: Re: Hatestomp Aug
Post by: Gannicus on October 09, 2014, 07:35:31 am
Hatestomp doesn't have to compete with anger augs, it's allowing the UW warriors to utilize the 2H option with tanking w.o having to have an entire series of clicks to use. If you have your epic click in UW, then hatestomp won't fire (it seems it doesn't currently anyway) as a combat it's just a way to hold aggro on your pulls w.o having to cycle in all your ae aggro snaps. I've always wanted anger augs available for UW but that wasn't a budging issue and figured hatestomp would be a good UW aug because it'll essentially give us that.


Title: Re: Hatestomp Aug
Post by: huffdady on October 09, 2014, 10:18:21 am
However since alot of warriors now utilize the 2hs variety of UW

I asked this question in OOC last night and didn't get any response.  I just got my UW3 and was considering using the 2handed version.  I currently am running the UW longsword 3 and a Tser Whip.  The damage of them two together is right at 34,500 white damage.  If I were to switch to the 2 hander the base white damage is 48,000.  This is huge upgrade in white damage.  The damage proc is about the same.  The only difference is the Tser whip has the 10% damage modifier. 

What do you guys  think?  Switch to 2 hander or stick with sword/whip? 


Title: Re: Hatestomp Aug
Post by: hateborne on October 09, 2014, 11:01:14 am
Based on the feedback in this thread:

Hatestomp will be a proc with reboot. The damage was left the same as it's still rank one and it isn't too high considering one needs an UW to even utilize.


-Hate


Title: Re: Hatestomp Aug
Post by: Raygan on October 09, 2014, 11:23:54 am
Thanks Hate.  ;D


Title: Re: Hatestomp Aug
Post by: Krinkle on October 09, 2014, 02:04:00 pm
Yeah thank you.


Title: Re: Hatestomp Aug
Post by: Anuli on October 09, 2014, 04:41:21 pm
But if it's a proc we will have to choose between hatestomp and the DS? :(


Title: Re: Hatestomp Aug
Post by: hateborne on October 09, 2014, 05:47:13 pm
Sadly, yes. I guess it comes down to "do you want threat/dmg or huge DS"?


-Hate


Title: Re: Hatestomp Aug
Post by: balidet on October 09, 2014, 09:31:47 pm
or you could remove the lore tag from the UW ~!~ ::) ::) ::) ::)


Title: Re: Hatestomp Aug
Post by: Brannyn on October 10, 2014, 02:01:40 am
I'm going to go ahead and assume Hate's answer is

NO


Title: Re: Hatestomp Aug
Post by: hateborne on October 10, 2014, 10:55:06 am
I'm going to go ahead and assume Hate's answer is

NO

Yes, that.


-Hate


Title: Re: Hatestomp Aug
Post by: Krinkle on October 10, 2014, 06:08:31 pm
Hatestomp 4 is still the exact same damage as hatestomp 3.


Title: Re: Hatestomp Aug
Post by: hateborne on October 10, 2014, 07:30:20 pm
Only on the tooltip. I've not pushed a new spellfile so it won't SHOW the new damage. :-)

-Hate


Title: Re: Hatestomp Aug
Post by: Krinkle on October 10, 2014, 08:39:45 pm
What did you set the damage of hatestomp 4 at? 3 was 34000 I belive


Title: Re: Hatestomp Aug
Post by: Dethundrel on October 11, 2014, 12:35:58 am
I guess I missed where you get higher ranks. Is it just current aug + another level 1 from queen in magic box?


Title: Re: Hatestomp Aug
Post by: hateborne on October 12, 2014, 10:22:52 am
I guess I missed where you get higher ranks. Is it just current aug + another level 1 from queen in magic box?

No, use the upgrade tokens from Hive Queen.


-Hate


Title: Re: Hatestomp Aug
Post by: Expletus on October 12, 2014, 11:41:39 am
Will there be anymore UW augs added or is what is on there what it will be?


Title: Re: Hatestomp Aug
Post by: hateborne on October 12, 2014, 02:25:50 pm
Right now, unsure. :-)


-Hate


Title: Re: Hatestomp Aug
Post by: Expletus on October 12, 2014, 03:05:48 pm
Well... any chase at all you could make the sweeping strike one (the aoe) that is marked for DPS to be warrior flagged? Plzzzz

(http://images.wikia.com/shrek/images/d/d1/Puss_in_Boots_1.jpg)


Title: Re: Hatestomp Aug
Post by: hateborne on October 12, 2014, 03:09:29 pm
Well... any chase at all you could make the sweeping strike one (the aoe) that is marked for DPS to be warrior flagged? Plzzzz

(http://puss in boots was here)

Hatestomp is AoE threat and damage on proc. Damage isn't obscene like the DPS one, but it's fairly useful. :-)


-Hate


Title: Re: Hatestomp Aug
Post by: Expletus on October 12, 2014, 03:18:14 pm
I want the obscene damage!


Title: Re: Hatestomp Aug
Post by: Dinadas on October 15, 2014, 09:19:36 am
Is Hate stomp AE?


Title: Re: Hatestomp Aug
Post by: Darpey on October 15, 2014, 10:31:52 am
Yes hatestomp is AoE


Title: Re: Hatestomp Aug
Post by: Anuli on October 15, 2014, 01:07:04 pm
Where is the upgrade from 3-4? I checked pub hive queen and made an instance but it's not on her. What am I missing here?

-Anuli


Title: Re: Hatestomp Aug
Post by: hateborne on October 15, 2014, 01:10:49 pm
Buy the Augment Upgrade Token II and Augment Upgrade Token III.

Take augment, combine with matching upgrade token, get next rank of token. :-)


-Hate


Title: Re: Hatestomp Aug
Post by: Anuli on October 15, 2014, 03:00:11 pm
Right, but my problem is I have Hatestomp III, I can't find upgrade token III to make a it a hatestomp IV.
 I checked that hive queen every day, and in a private instance, but all she has is upgrade I and II. I've seen people upgrade to IV, but they said the same thing. buy upgrade III, but from whom?


Title: Re: Hatestomp Aug
Post by: hateborne on October 15, 2014, 03:35:49 pm
Right, but my problem is I have Hatestomp III, I can't find upgrade token III to make a it a hatestomp IV.
 I checked that hive queen every day, and in a private instance, but all she has is upgrade I and II. I've seen people upgrade to IV, but they said the same thing. buy upgrade III, but from whom?

Look at the top. 400 berries. It should be price sorted.


-Hate


Title: Re: Hatestomp Aug
Post by: balidet on October 15, 2014, 07:32:18 pm
anyone with hate stomp 3 already is clearly a cheater and should be erased!


Title: Re: Hatestomp Aug
Post by: Darpey on October 15, 2014, 07:45:29 pm
I can think of 4 ways that you could have legitimately gotten hatestomp 4 (950 berries)
1. Spend 20 days doing both expeditions and selling the prisms (48 berries per day (completion awards + prisms) * 20 = 960)
2. Sell SLS when selling was legitimate
3. Buy hatestomps with plat, and sell them for berries
4. Run multiple toons through expedition until each toon gets 150, and give hatestomp to main (since it is tradeable by design)

I did option 4
- Darpey


Title: Re: Hatestomp Aug
Post by: Anuli on October 16, 2014, 10:28:39 am
Yeah I sold all the prisms I collected for about 12 days, then sold a couple SLS when it was on there to round up to buy hatestomp 3. I only have 200 berries currently but I didn't cheat. I'll check again tonight but I know they are price sorted, I just don't see it on the vendor, the highest one for me is upgrade II for 250 berries. I don't have the see things I can buy one checked.. so Im supposed to be seeing all of them.


Title: Re: Hatestomp Aug
Post by: Anuli on October 16, 2014, 07:16:46 pm
Heres a screenshot I just took of the Hive Queen. Don't see upgrade 3

-Anuli


Title: Re: Hatestomp Aug
Post by: avadar on October 18, 2014, 06:15:35 am
Anuli, to get token upgrade III to IV you have to be level 77. I was in this same position. If you are level 77 and still having the issue, then I would bring it up with hate.

-Harthek


Title: Re: Hatestomp Aug
Post by: Anuli on October 18, 2014, 06:29:13 am
Anuli, to get token upgrade III to IV you have to be level 77. I was in this same position. If you are level 77 and still having the issue, then I would bring it up with hate.

-Harthek

Thank you for the info bro. Guess I better get on that if I want that upgrade :)