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Title: Odd Lag / Zone Issues Random Characters
Post by: Warbash on November 12, 2014, 09:01:25 am
Since last week I've randomly experienced sever lag most noticeable when looting, but it also affects combat. I'll get the "you can not do that right now" or what ever. With the looting, it takes forever to open up the corpse, the looting is not too bad but then your stuck in the corpse for awhile. It seams to happen after zoning, I was fine doing my thing in LP, died then rezed back in with the lag. Zoneing out of instance and coming back seemed to fix it.
One thing about zoning, if your going to get bit by this lag, you will probably see a significant delay on zone and when it loads up and your in it, the "you have joined the raid" message spam it quit delayed too.
My guildie experienced this last night as well. Anyone else seeing it?


Title: Re: Odd Lag / Zone Issues Random Characters
Post by: Darpey on November 12, 2014, 09:22:34 am
I've noticed a difference in the extended target window when fighting 10+ mobs at a time.

When I kill them all quickly, the 5 immediately purge themselves from my window, then it takes a second for the next 5 to appear, whereas it used to be immediate.

Doesn't really bother me, but thought I'd bring it up here.


Title: Re: Odd Lag / Zone Issues Random Characters
Post by: Darpey on November 12, 2014, 09:53:57 am
Also - twice now I've had a train of mine disengage from me (I lost their aggro) during a pull... Once it happened in Dranik, and once in Abyss. That has NEVER happened before


Title: Re: Odd Lag / Zone Issues Random Characters
Post by: Kwai on November 12, 2014, 10:32:08 am
Same here.  Old Commons was so sticky I lost link during combat.  Rebooted and came back, but it was the same.  This also has never happened before.  All since Halloween.


Title: Re: Odd Lag / Zone Issues Random Characters
Post by: littlelongbeard on November 12, 2014, 04:36:38 pm
Last night I was trying to loot a corpse in T8 and it took 5 minutes for the toon to kneel down and open the corpse's loot screen. Then another 5 to loot the actual item, then I could not even stand up or un target the corpse.


Title: Re: Odd Lag / Zone Issues Random Characters
Post by: Premador on November 12, 2014, 09:45:24 pm
Yup here too. Anything more than 15 or so and I lag Like crazy and usually my main will dc. Been happening since halfway through halloween event. I just figured it was from the larger population from the event.


Title: Re: Odd Lag / Zone Issues Random Characters
Post by: Anuli on November 13, 2014, 04:42:59 pm
I thought you guys were just having bad luck cuz I've seen no problems at all until last night, looting took a few extra seconds more than normal. Other than that haven't experienced lag, even pulling 20+. Maybe it's specific zones?


Title: Re: Odd Lag / Zone Issues Random Characters
Post by: Warbash on November 13, 2014, 04:54:48 pm
its random, I usually experience it after zoning.


Title: Re: Odd Lag / Zone Issues Random Characters
Post by: WatchYouDie on November 18, 2014, 07:53:19 pm
same issue i have been having since the event first started. i was told it was my client side which i have replace the cable modem removed the router. redid my clients. and i still have this issue. oh and a handful of other people.... i even wiped my 2nd computer and started clean and still have the same damn issue... this is sad because i cant play. there is something going on that is NOT CLIENT SIDE. can we please have this looked at.


What i have noticed
When i log in 18 toons at least 2 toons have pings over 6k MS sometimes my main client. I run mupltiple installs of eq and it is random on what toons it picks to desync.

Sometimes camping fixes the issue but the next pull a differnt toon tends to spike in latency

This doesnt only happen when i run 18 toons i can be sitting afk with 1 toon open and come back to being sitting at 6k ping
I have run every test i can. i run 100mbps down and 5 up more than enough to handle 1 toon. I have 3 computers with 2 different installs of eq clients and it does it on both.

I also have tested running this on another internet connection just to make sure that it was not my side.. and well it spiked too.


my orignal post

http://ezserver.online/forums/index.php?topic=4505.msg57704#msg57704


Title: Re: Odd Lag / Zone Issues Random Characters
Post by: hateborne on November 18, 2014, 08:28:25 pm
Question:

Are ANY of you Time Warner customers or a small company OWNED by Time Warner? At work we've been getting SEVERE issues with DNS and routing from most of our TWC stores.


-Hate


Title: Re: Odd Lag / Zone Issues Random Characters
Post by: Warbash on November 18, 2014, 08:32:52 pm
Yeah I am :( how can I confirm or fix this lol?
I'm now having characters that show in the zone alone not grouped or raided, can move around the about 20 seconds later they show in group and spam, "had joined the raid"
Getting a few disconnects when bcaa /enter guild nexus etc.


Title: Re: Odd Lag / Zone Issues Random Characters
Post by: Expletus on November 18, 2014, 08:34:56 pm
I'm not, experienced my first lag out in a while in t9 tonight. Was main tank only. Was directly after the befallen release happened.


Title: Re: Odd Lag / Zone Issues Random Characters
Post by: hateborne on November 18, 2014, 09:34:27 pm
Warbash, we have had some success with DNS crap by using both Google DNS (8.8.8.8 or 8.8.4.4) and OpenDNS (208.67.222.222 or 208.67.220.220). Basically pick one from each set and set them to your primary and secondary DNS on modem/router/computer. If it's a routing issue, it's a bit more complicated and I wouldn't advise tinkering with that unless you know damn well what you are doing. As a ghetto fix, you could potentially find a proxy server that connects and go that route....but it's also not easy or stupid fast. :-\


-Hate


Title: Re: Odd Lag / Zone Issues Random Characters
Post by: Warbash on November 18, 2014, 09:43:07 pm
Thanks :) I have been thinking about going https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/ which would help this some I think.


Title: Re: Odd Lag / Zone Issues Random Characters
Post by: WatchYouDie on November 19, 2014, 03:28:16 pm
I am not time warner or cox. neither are the 2 guildies that i play with that have similar issues.


Title: Re: Odd Lag / Zone Issues Random Characters
Post by: aythena on November 19, 2014, 07:06:27 pm
comcast and just today atleast 12 times it did a weird delay issue, ms was 80 fps was 50 solid, even could reply instantly in ooc but i had to swap to my druid to command toons to attack cause they weren't listening to the war, and the war literally took 3 minutes to catch up to mobs being already dead its a really weird lag delay tried many things new eq files, checking router and firewall settings lots of stuff beyond that optimizations everything, and I hear that same weird lag delay happening to several people today so I am pretty sure at this point it isn't anything on my end.


Title: Re: Odd Lag / Zone Issues Random Characters
Post by: Dimur on November 19, 2014, 07:21:31 pm
If anyone experiencing issues has been parsing with all filters off, that could be why there are desyncing issues when playing in normal gameplay.  If multiple characters are logging everything, especially in the same directory, desync would probably result from it.  Hell, even in normal gameplay and on large pulls, I have to filter everything but incoming mob hits or I desync.  Probably isn't the issue most people are having, but just thought I'd throw that out there.


Title: Re: Odd Lag / Zone Issues Random Characters
Post by: Warbash on November 19, 2014, 08:52:51 pm
Yeah Dim,
I have had that happen, this is not it.


Title: Re: Odd Lag / Zone Issues Random Characters
Post by: WatchYouDie on November 21, 2014, 05:05:10 pm
comcast and just today atleast 12 times it did a weird delay issue, ms was 80 fps was 50 solid, even could reply instantly in ooc but i had to swap to my druid to command toons to attack cause they weren't listening to the war, and the war literally took 3 minutes to catch up to mobs being already dead its a really weird lag delay tried many things new eq files, checking router and firewall settings lots of stuff beyond that optimizations everything, and I hear that same weird lag delay happening to several people today so I am pretty sure at this point it isn't anything on my end.
.

had that same issue and it was only watch logged in. this seems to happen more when im connected to the universal chat server then when not. didnt that go live about the same time the event started? i.e. tell queues


Title: Re: Odd Lag / Zone Issues Random Characters
Post by: WatchYouDie on November 22, 2014, 05:35:48 pm
http://ezserver.online/forums/index.php?topic=4532.msg58528;topicseen#new


Title: Re: Odd Lag / Zone Issues Random Characters
Post by: Warbash on November 23, 2014, 03:23:42 pm
So I put everything back in one folder, copied server files back, deleted everything from the Halloween event and restored my globalload.txt file. will see how it goes now :)


Title: Re: Odd Lag / Zone Issues Random Characters
Post by: Warbash on November 24, 2014, 12:52:35 am
So I put everything back in one folder, copied server files back, deleted everything from the Halloween event and restored my globalload.txt file. will see how it goes now :)
No change on the loot lag or desynch but not disconnecting on zone


Title: Re: Odd Lag / Zone Issues Random Characters
Post by: Warbash on November 24, 2014, 10:32:59 am
Saw this on emu, not sure I its related.
http://www.eqemulator.org/forums/showthread.php?t=39031


Title: Re: Odd Lag / Zone Issues Random Characters
Post by: Adydar on November 24, 2014, 11:18:45 am
I've had odd ball disconnects while zoning too, of course, I suck and didn't backup the files pre halloween, are the floating anywhere easily accessible?  I'd give it a go to see if it helps.


Title: Re: Odd Lag / Zone Issues Random Characters
Post by: Raygan on November 24, 2014, 02:09:04 pm
Have an SoF disc....thinking I should try that and see if maybe it is a UF problem?  I am still thinking it is a server problem myself, but Akka and Hate or anyone who could possibly verify have been very quiet...... :-\


Title: Re: Odd Lag / Zone Issues Random Characters
Post by: Expletus on November 24, 2014, 02:30:18 pm
Haven't really seen this issue since the server was getting attacked w/that microsoft SQL issue that Akka patched. Might have something to do w/it (was at the end of halloween)


Title: Re: Odd Lag / Zone Issues Random Characters
Post by: Raygan on November 24, 2014, 04:29:27 pm
Ok.  I tried installing SoF (had the disc) changed all the stuff to get it to hook up to Eqemultor/EZ server...still high ping rates...so I know it isn't just UF client......unchanged ping rates/load times between UF and SoF clients.  ???


Title: Re: Odd Lag / Zone Issues Random Characters
Post by: Raygan on November 24, 2014, 04:34:11 pm
Here is an idea that I think I may try.  Going to make another toon on another server and see if I have issues there...will definitely be able to tell if it is server issue or my end.  All I have to go on atm is my toon on Star Wars: The Old Republic has no issues loading/playing etc (and that's playing with everything at max settings)...but EZ is just being a complete bitch!  >:(


Title: Re: Odd Lag / Zone Issues Random Characters
Post by: Akkadius on November 27, 2014, 11:53:34 pm
Have an SoF disc....thinking I should try that and see if maybe it is a UF problem?  I am still thinking it is a server problem myself, but Akka and Hate or anyone who could possibly verify have been very quiet...... :-\

Maybe quiet here. But I've been extremely busy working on overhauls for EQEmu.

https://github.com/EQEmu/Server/commits?author=Akkadius

If there is a server performance issue, which I'm not quite convinced that there is quiet yet, I will most definitely fix it.

Could be a variety of other things, but it is hard to say truly until I get some hard data and commonality of problems before I start to do anything to determine where a problem potentially lies.



Title: Re: Odd Lag / Zone Issues Random Characters
Post by: WatchYouDie on November 28, 2014, 02:42:11 pm
I ran a Ez client on the Lootfest server 4 day uptime didnt go over 80ms ping... 3k on ez same client version


Title: Re: Odd Lag / Zone Issues Random Characters
Post by: Warbash on November 28, 2014, 05:58:22 pm
Have an SoF disc....thinking I should try that and see if maybe it is a UF problem?  I am still thinking it is a server problem myself, but Akka and Hate or anyone who could possibly verify have been very quiet...... :-\

Maybe quiet here. But I've been extremely busy working on overhauls for EQEmu.

https://github.com/EQEmu/Server/commits?author=Akkadius

If there is a server performance issue, which I'm not quite convinced that there is quiet yet, I will most definitely fix it.

Could be a variety of other things, but it is hard to say truly until I get some hard data and commonality of problems before I start to do anything to determine where a problem potentially lies.



Akka,

Like I explained in original post, I was experiencing disconnects on zone whether from casting or death as well as a sync issue with character when zoning which then felt like it lead to extreme lag, most noticeable when looting.

Since I experienced so much lag during the Halloween event, i made a slim version of EQ for the alts and changes the second computer to a slimmed down version using stick figures and modified global and custom zone files.

I don't recall any substantial amount of disconnects during the Halloween event, just general slow zoning etc... from server load it felt. Once the event was over, I started to get the disconnects, the sync issue and loot lag.

My 1st attempt to resolve this from my end was restore the stock global and custom zone files and delete all files from the Halloween event and replace them with backups. so now I was using a clean version of UF in one folder for all toons.

This fixed my crashing and disconnecting, but it seems randomly there is still a sync issue when zoning and sometimes when looting on random toons.

Let me explain what I am talking about a sync issue. Say for example all toons are in a zone or all toons zone into the same zone (I box 18), randomly a few toons or the one zoning in, will show up in the zone. You can move this toon but does not respond to commands, wont accept a /stick command and does not show up as grouped. wait about 10 seconds or more and then the group bars show up and you are spammed with "you have formed a raid, blah blah has joined the raid" etc... when this happens this particular toon will have lag in all things like looting or attacking etc... this has only happened since right after the Halloween event.

Wish I could be more help.



Title: Re: Odd Lag / Zone Issues Random Characters
Post by: Akkadius on November 28, 2014, 07:58:51 pm
From what I can tell, a majority of issues seem to stem from the Halloween character files that were made for Nexus.

Delete nexus_chr.txt from your client directory. See how that fairs on your client if you are having crashing issues.

Issues related to lag and desync could happen from a lack of available bandwidth with the amount of characters you are running. EverQuest has always ran for the most part on UDP messaging which means that it doesn't really do any handshaking or verifying that certain messages have been received and if you are saturating your connection there is no reliable way to recover that at the protocol level so you are bound to see some mixed results.