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Title: Range slot added to War Epic 3.0 Please
Post by: Warbash on December 07, 2014, 10:49:19 am
Hate or Love,
Any chance we could get ranged added to war 3.0 aug? I use it for pulling and if I use a uw 2h I cant have it in my secondary. This way we could put it in range and still pull and not give up a top level inventory slot using the SoT since its not a commonly used range item anymore.
That would be great!

Oh wanted to push again for my request to add slot type 22 to all strike augs, mostly ninja and fire so that we could aug t7 + weapons with lower augs until such a time they can be brought up to lvl IX.


Title: Re: Range slot added to War Epic 3.0 Please
Post by: Ugazel on December 07, 2014, 12:56:50 pm
That is a great idea one if the main reasons I have not switched to the two hander yet as I didn't want to loose my 3.0 in secondary and have to occupy a inventory slot for it


Title: Re: Range slot added to War Epic 3.0 Please
Post by: Bigoh on December 07, 2014, 01:01:57 pm
Hate or Love,
Any chance we could get ranged added to war 3.0 aug? I use it for pulling and if I use a uw 2h I cant have it in my secondary. This way we could put it in range and still pull and not give up a top level inventory slot using the SoT since its not a commonly used range item anymore.
That would be great!

Oh wanted to push again for my request to add slot type 22 to all strike augs, mostly ninja and fire so that we could aug t7 + weapons with lower augs until such a time they can be brought up to lvl IX.

I agree with 3.0 range slot fully.


I do not agree with the making strike augs less then 9 usable in T7 + weapons. T6 is a steeping stool for the game to get harder. The only thing this is gonna do is have more newbs in full T7/T8/T9 armor running around in lower zones cause instead of buying strike augs there gonna buy armor. T6 allows for good money and uc2s, both needed to progress threw the following tiers. Farm stuff instead of buying armor, just saying...


Title: Re: Range slot added to War Epic 3.0 Please
Post by: warrior5 on December 07, 2014, 01:09:10 pm
Unless someone walked them through every zone, no one in full T7/T8/T9 gear is a newb.


Title: Re: Range slot added to War Epic 3.0 Please
Post by: Dimur on December 07, 2014, 02:29:51 pm
Unless someone walked them through every zone, no one in full T7/T8/T9 gear is a newb.

Then they shouldn't have issues with the same system every one of their predecessors dealt with, it was intentionally designed this way and alleviating the inconvenience of a massive power gain is a pretty weak argument.



Title: Re: Range slot added to War Epic 3.0 Please
Post by: Dimur on December 07, 2014, 02:37:53 pm
Playing the part of devil's advocate regarding the request for making 3.0 range capable, if you are using a bow in range instead of SoT then can't you just buy arrows and put them in the ammo slot to pull with?  As it currently stands, you can leave the 3.0 in a top level inventory slot and still use it and only sacrifice one bag slot.  The main issue with bag slots has been addressed in making plat bags stackable, even when carrying all your keys and clickies, food and drink you should have a good 3 10 slot bags empty if you leave a top level inventory slot open.  I'm not suggesting it's a bad request, just that it's easy to counter the reasons for implementing one.


Title: Re: Range slot added to War Epic 3.0 Please
Post by: WatchYouDie on December 07, 2014, 03:50:53 pm
you can use SoT from inv ... no reason for the change


Title: Re: Range slot added to War Epic 3.0 Please
Post by: Warbash on December 07, 2014, 03:57:06 pm
Playing the part of devil's advocate regarding the request for making 3.0 range capable, if you are using a bow in range instead of SoT then can't you just buy arrows and put them in the ammo slot to pull with?  As it currently stands, you can leave the 3.0 in a top level inventory slot and still use it and only sacrifice one bag slot.  

good point but I don't use a bow in range, I use Jewlers Candlight

The main issue with bag slots has been addressed in making plat bags stackable, even when carrying all your keys and clickies, food and drink you should have a good 3 10 slot bags empty if you leave a top level inventory slot open.  I'm not suggesting it's a bad request, just that it's easy to counter the reasons for implementing one.
mostly accurate, then add the almost 12 stones for t7, maybe a few t7 patterns or the gear that you have not augged, an aa crystal, a few essence, oh and the bane weapons. It really adds up fast.


Title: Re: Range slot added to War Epic 3.0 Please
Post by: Warbash on December 07, 2014, 04:02:43 pm

I agree with 3.0 range slot fully.

I do not agree with the making strike augs less then 9 usable in T7 + weapons. T6 is a steeping stool for the game to get harder. The only thing this is gonna do is have more newbs in full T7/T8/T9 armor running around in lower zones cause instead of buying strike augs there gonna buy armor. T6 allows for good money and uc2s, both needed to progress threw the following tiers. Farm stuff instead of buying armor, just saying...

For those capable of getting past t5 this can happen anyway, no impact. Additionally if you don't have decent strike augs you probably wont kill very fast at all, you will have massive amounts of ping pong because of hate roll over on war and as a result lots of deaths.

Yes T6 provides money but not enough to allow you to IX aug entire melee group when your in t7 and we dont need more plat in the game. I am about 65% done with t7 and still only have 30% of my team using T7 weapons. I don't see any harm in to to be honest, it does not give anyone a leg up really. It will allow those few that buy their t7 / t8 stuff to pu lower tier augs and gain HP and a small amount of white damage but so what.


Title: Re: Range slot added to War Epic 3.0 Please
Post by: Dimur on December 07, 2014, 04:24:27 pm
The main issue with bag slots has been addressed in making plat bags stackable, even when carrying all your keys and clickies, food and drink you should have a good 3 10 slot bags empty if you leave a top level inventory slot open.  I'm not suggesting it's a bad request, just that it's easy to counter the reasons for implementing one.
mostly accurate, then add the almost 12 stones for t7, maybe a few t7 patterns or the gear that you have not augged, an aa crystal, a few essence, oh and the bane weapons. It really adds up fast.

You can quite easily use the summon banker item to bank those items if you're running out of space, then use it again to pull them out when you need them.

Playing the part of devil's advocate regarding the request for making 3.0 range capable, if you are using a bow in range instead of SoT then can't you just buy arrows and put them in the ammo slot to pull with?  As it currently stands, you can leave the 3.0 in a top level inventory slot and still use it and only sacrifice one bag slot. 

good point but I don't use a bow in range, I use Jewlers Candlight


That's a gear choice, you could equip the bow when going out to pull and not sacrifice much in the way of stats then re-equip your range item if you so desired when back at your camp.  Gear choices is something Hate has been actively promoting, it's nice to see an example of it in use.



Title: Re: Range slot added to War Epic 3.0 Please
Post by: Dimur on December 07, 2014, 04:28:07 pm
Yes T6 provides money but not enough to allow you to IX aug entire melee group when your in t7 and we dont need more plat in the game. I am about 65% done with t7 and still only have 30% of my team using T7 weapons. I don't see any harm in to to be honest, it does not give anyone a leg up really. It will allow those few that buy their t7 / t8 stuff to pu lower tier augs and gain HP and a small amount of white damage but so what.

Unless someone walked them through every zone, no one in full T7/T8/T9 gear is a newb.

Then they shouldn't have issues with the same system every one of their predecessors dealt with, it was intentionally designed this way and alleviating the inconvenience of a massive power gain is a pretty weak argument.




Title: Re: Range slot added to War Epic 3.0 Please
Post by: Warbash on December 07, 2014, 04:34:27 pm
yes yes dim, you are always right and yours is the only view in the world. Its a request to make things more flexible and as for your assumption that anything was intentionally designed a certain way, please quote the source or its simply hearsay.

I'm glad you are happy to summon bankers and change items in the slots, keep it up :)


Title: Re: Range slot added to War Epic 3.0 Please
Post by: Dimur on December 07, 2014, 04:45:24 pm
It's not my view, it was something Hunter implemented and after listening to all the feedback from people he still decided it was the way he wanted it.  Sorry that you weren't around for the discussions, but you can ask some of the more tenured players that were involved in the discussions to verify if you like.




Title: Re: Range slot added to War Epic 3.0 Please
Post by: Fugitive on December 07, 2014, 04:50:53 pm
Quote from: Warbash

Yes T6 provides money but not enough to allow you to IX aug entire melee group when your in t7


LoL, Really you are wrong period.. that quote made me really laugh... it's funny how players were able to augment a full team with no issues... sigh you're sad

Players were able to fully augment groups to 9s prior to the UW release (wow!)
Players were able to fully augment groups to 9s prior to laying retarded onslaught to T6 (wow!)
Players were able to fully augment groups to 9s prior to all this here is your trophy plat bags in every zone (wow!)

There are plenty of other reasons why I don't mind if they do get the slot to equip in subpar weps, but using the excuse of no money or just can't is getting old..


Playing through a tier once will not net you every resource you need, just a friendly reminder.. grind grind grind


oh as for the ranged item... you can use it from inside a bag too.. sigh..
just make a hotkey
/casting "sceptre of the ages X"  (or whatever the spelling is, it will cast it and rebag it..)


Title: Re: Range slot added to War Epic 3.0 Please
Post by: warrior5 on December 07, 2014, 05:43:21 pm
Lol


Title: Re: Range slot added to War Epic 3.0 Please
Post by: Warbash on December 07, 2014, 06:28:08 pm
Fug, I recognize your speaking from experience, but it's yours not mine. In my case with my toons it is as I said it was. Yes you are right, have to grind a lot and I still have a lot to do. Still stand by my post and reason as valid.


Title: Re: Range slot added to War Epic 3.0 Please
Post by: Fugitive on December 07, 2014, 06:33:10 pm
Still stand by my post and reason as valid.

Your money reason is not valid in anyway. There is more then enough Plat to grind out to get your augments.  (There are other reasons possible to allow 22 types) But $ is not one by far.

Just cause you cannot or have no desire to grind out the PP required to get augments doesn't mean the game is broken by far. Just because you don't like Dimur's or my views makes them far from invalid, That is the design and fully doable by anyone on the server. or and my experience I was slacking and got passed up by about 7 teams before I finished my Strike augments T7 (cause I was lazy)

Everyone is chasing down the last tiers everyone has a tank or plate class that is 1-3 tiers higher then rest of grp, no one is enjoying anything (content grind) anymore.

/sigh, done with you on this post get more out of talking to a steel wall so comment or don't, no further response from me.


Title: Re: Range slot added to War Epic 3.0 Please
Post by: Warbash on December 07, 2014, 08:05:07 pm
I hear you fug, there may be better reasons than the plat. Still a factor wether you agree or not. You may not like it but this server is slowing growing into something less one dimensional and it's great.


Title: Re: Range slot added to War Epic 3.0 Please
Post by: warrior5 on December 07, 2014, 08:26:38 pm
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Title: Re: Range slot added to War Epic 3.0 Please
Post by: Warbash on December 07, 2014, 08:32:43 pm
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oh as for the ranged item... you can use it from inside a bag too.. sigh..
just make a hotkey
/casting "sceptre of the ages X"  (or whatever the spelling is, it will cast it and rebag it..)
Did not know that :) Thanks!


Title: Re: Range slot added to War Epic 3.0 Please
Post by: Ponzi on December 07, 2014, 11:47:33 pm
dammit fugi spotted the lack of ability to grind strike augs + cash and the presence of an early UW in the same post...

I feel like i just read an old school Encyclopedia Brown mystery and got schooled by overlooking the obvious.



Title: Re: Range slot added to War Epic 3.0 Please
Post by: Warbash on December 08, 2014, 12:59:58 am
dammit fugi spotted the lack of ability to grind strike augs + cash and the presence of an early UW in the same post...

I feel like i just read an old school Encyclopedia Brown mystery and got schooled by overlooking the obvious.


Fail, no uw yet. Working augs, move along troll.


Title: Re: Range slot added to War Epic 3.0 Please
Post by: balidet on December 08, 2014, 11:31:05 am
 :D


why does better have to mean easier?


 ???

look at all the posts....show me one ..ONE that is a suggestion to make this more work...harder..rarer...sure people speak out once in awhile on posts....



everything people post on here is an attempt to make things easier....


EZ server if you spend your time...you will get the lewtz ...guaranteed!


and people wonder why they dont feel a challenge anymore.. lol