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Good Stuff!  Thanks Akk!

sounds like fun:)

About Blackburrow

one thing i would like to raise was that due to being a one group deal having plagues in there can cause people to stay in sunderrock for more hopes as if you run 3 groups it wouldn't be feasible.

Might i suggest removing plagues compleetly from the instance and rather have tokens drop that can trigger plagues in sunderrock so that players could raid up to get the best return.

Say one player in 20 days can amass 50 tokens ( say 5 per 2 day trip)

Raid has 4 players so in 20 days they can pool to get 200 plagues

Even if they can somehow get 50 normal plagues in sunderrock

so

80 days for reasonably hardcore players to get 1000.

Just a suggestion

ps cheers for nice new content

or would it be better to just make it an instance that allows 24 toons?

^this

If this is something that we see as reasonable we can make it so, but at the same time will we need to rescale the mission to suit this. It's not a knee jerk change that I want to make but is something that I am open to consideration.

I just threw that option in there maybe because I'm not understanding a Token system, where would the PB spawn in T10 off a token, and that token is a new item added and blah blah blah

I agree the mission would have to be rescaled to accommodate more DPS and some may take 12 and some 18 and some 24, so would have to be a medium of all that into consideration

With 6 its easy cause you scale to 6 toons.

Another way to look at this is this way, youre only doing this mission once every 2 days and it takes how long?

so your "A" team group gets PB's done before the other 12, and? problem? It's not like youre going to quit doing T10 for PB's. This mission is an added bonus for PB's 

Basically you can speed up the Epic 10 on important toons. I think it's fine as is. It' a fair trade to get expedition that help with our T10 quests.

Would much rather see this opened up to multiple groups personally. From experience some of us prefer to spend a lot more time leveling extra groups while others prefer to fill one group with multiple UWs in the same timeframe - anything which favors the single group discourages having more than six toons which imo isn't great. Same reason raid coh was introduced.

I like it with 6. I run 18 chars and can just do it 3x. It lets me gather essences faster.

I ran this last night....

here is my 2 cents of input.


Make them hit twice as hard and have half the hps they currently have...

I found it really easy to tank the normal mobs even solo with my warrior and no heals.... with a healer I was able to tank fairly large pulls... on the surface that sounds fine but with only 6 toons my AOE dps is so poor that it was kind of silly to pull a large group when it took me 2 mins to kill each mob or longer.... I did not time it exactly but it took good long time...

I had several plaugeborne spawn and this was great... they hit hard.... and felt well balanced as a challenge for 6 toons:)

I got 1 essence and 4 xp shards and about 25 undead items from 1 clear... so looks good.. and where I see xp shards I usally find GSOA at some point so that is good...

When I summoned my banker to hold some of my piles of loot he was aggroed by a mob I pulled... and he tanked the crap out of it.... that banker is no slouch:) I also was able to do this with my merchant... and I assume my pocket porter as well... free dps is great thanks!


The guard mobs in the boss dudes room respawn in like 5 mins... and they seem to be the only thing that respawns.... and that is nifty... but they dont respawn at the right level every time... some times yellow con normal mobs..... sometimes white con normal mobs.... sometimes one hit wonder white mobs....

so I was pulling the last few mobs I needed to complete the kill count and one of the white one hit wonders spawned on me and poped a plaugborne on me with 4 other mobs all ready in tow.... this was a neat added challenge.... people died.... group survived.....long story short... neato!


OH and also...some of the mobs dont aggro... like half of them give not a single shit if you run past them... some care..../lazy mobs for the win!


This is a fun mini so good work!

sorry i broke some of the stuff.....

ohh crap almost forgot...


I killed one plaugeborne and it completed the task...should have been 5? FYI

Already mentioned, but

Bankers and Noobie merchants = good DPS for you
Killed 1 Plaugeborn got credit for all 5

Lots of Gnolls stuck in walls, underworld throughout the zone, pet pull works on them

^ also hp too high.

not getting gnoll kills counted not sure if that's intended.

The regular gnolls have way more hp's than a jugger in T10. It took me less than half the time today killing 1 jugger compared to a gnoll using a group of 6

Plagues are perfect the way they are.

agree on plagues also agree on regular gnolls

I tend to agree here too, the gnolls have a tad too many hps and their damage output could be a tad higher.

The plagueborns seem correct though

I know this has been addressed in every mini thread ever... but here we go..


the lock out timer.....

12 hours bad...24 hours bad....



we only have certain play times and the lockout is from the time you finish it... this takes several hours.... so our completion time is set back 2 - 3 hours a time.... after 1 or 2 runs we basically have to wait an additional day because of time...


can we get an 8 hour lockout? or 16 hour? just not the 12/24/48


please?:)

Thanks for the reports guys, I'll look at adjusting things here probably start of next week.

If you want to keep giving feedback feel free

HP adjustment is critical - not that I have the best DPS, but the expedition took me an embarrassing number of hours to complete last night. Also agree on lockouts which allow folks to play consistent times.

Overall another excellent addition by Akka - so happy to see these minis coming back in force - this one just needs a couple tweaks. Nice job Akka!

Please don't adjust the agro range. I went through this today with 1 war and all casters and really like the fact some gnolls you can just run by. If you have terrible DPS killing 75 gnolls even if they're scaled to Orcs in T10 it'll take forever.

One thing can the quest giver socho darkpaw not be killable like other quest giving NPC's. Sometimes when my group dies some of my toons still got auto attack on and when I target him one of my toons sometimes kills him and I gotta wait 30 min for him to respawn.

^ this

If I am going to make more adjustments to the T10 expedition, I want to see a few more people's feedback. There are a few things that I'm looking to adjust

I like the 6 man setup, it lets you take your core of heavies in and work on plagueborn counts.  I'll still take my 12 man crew to T10 to work on updates in the public zone, I just like the limited crew aspect...it makes you choose who to take and who to sit.  It's bonus content and doesn't need to be meant for an entire 18-24 man raid crew to do...you're more than welcome to split your raid and do it with multiple sets if you so choose.

The mob hp is a bit high, most likely due to when being tested the Halloween familiar pets scaling as zone NPC's and inadvertently spiking the group damage output requiring the mobs to increase in HP to have some semblance of challenge.  This wasn't realized until the HP adjustments were put in and could be reviewed with the scaling now fixed.

Mob awareness range is nice, it's small enough to keep pulls from being too large but there are some areas you're going to get multi-pulls for sure. 

Mob damage output could still be tuned higher, if it's in fact geared towards players who've been in T10.  If it is intended as a way for people to kind of get a head start on the plagueborns as they are just breaking in, they might be okay.

tl;dr I like the zone, it's got a good bit of lore and it's a fun diversion to run...I like 6 man setup, mob dmg could be higher and hp be lower but it's awesome to see new and viable content created and released so quickly.

The HP of the Mobs could be a bit lower, the dmg seems ok so far. It's a nice aerea to fight for artifacts and essences. Havent seen other loot yet.

The only essence I have received is from the named at the end.  Wish the esse rate was upped a little...or maybe i just have bad RNG.

I got 3 essences one run