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Is there any disadvantage to turning in my 2hs 3.0 pally epic for the 1hs version?

Thanks.

People keep asking this and I always say go 1hs so you can use a shield.
+More HP
+More AC
+ I Hate 2h weapons

2H is going to be more dps due to aa's.  It's not a huge omfg difference but it is higher.  Wish someone had a parse comparing for actual percentage.

Balthor wishes he wielded my two hander!

but yep:
Tank mode: 1hs + shield
DPS Mode: 2hs due to aa (+bash does not beat extra attacks) + extra proc chances

NOW -- if we had an epic shield, maybe this would change *wink wink*

So 2hs has more proc chances then??

If that's the case I will definately stick with 2hs. Those procs give pallys their value, not tanking.

1hs and 2hs has no bearing on the proc chance
Its based on other factors.
2hs *might* be better dps if that aa triggers for extra attack, you do hit a lot harder with the 2hs but I really like the extra 2500hp and 145ac on the shield. On top of the extra +atk +regen +avoidance

There's an AA that gives you extra chance to hit with 2H so it should give you better dps and proc heal more.  The 2H augs are also better than the 1H.  I guess it depends if you have an uber shield or not.  My pally only has some LDON shield so the aug is almost as much hp :p

With the pally 2h 4.0 you have the highest hps you can get if you use 1hs you lose about 7k hps with a t3 shield aswell or more if your using T2-T1 stuff 11k lose.

Yeah you lose way too many hps going from the two hander to sword and board, tis poopie man.

So it sounds like until you get the 4.0 a sword and board is the way to go..? I've always wondered what the % chance is to land that extra blow with the 2hs

While unpopular I find 1 handed to be vastly superior for about 90% of what I do with my paladin, I only make him 2 handed when he is not tanking anything at all, no adds, nothing.

My computer can only handle 2 accounts up so I duo a paladin/warrior and my paladin is main tank almost always.  With a shield he outlasts my warrior when my warrior had 20k more hps.  Before I had a UC on either of them when I'd be farming hoh my paladin could handle 2 avatars at a time without too much trouble, still died but it was rare.  My warrior died more often fighting 1 avatar then my paladin did fighting 2.  Couple that with the paladin stonewall that with a manastone or UC lasts forever and they are much better tanks imo. 

Sorry if I hijacked this thread but I just find a paladin is much more useful with a shield than without, only time my paladin is 2 handed is in a large group where he isn't tanking or in PoAir and I only make him 2 handed to give a slight boost to heals (not even sure it does) but I also like my warrior to tank in Air because if I get an unlucky round and my warrior dies they turn to my paladin and he can keep the fight up while I rez war.  If my paladin is tanking and I get an unlucky round then its a wipe.

Back when T1/2 first came out and was in Anguish we were a little disappointed that ac was not scaling up. One of us, (Brut) brought our concern to Hunter and was told that the server had an cap on effective ac, (soft cap?). That was somewhere around 3500ac I believe. Having the shield on gives a few extra ac up til 4.0 but that is virtually all the benefit. The extra avoidance, shielding and all that has already reached cap.

I actually completely forgot to calculate haste into anything...

1hs = 15 (7.5 with 200% haste)
2hs = 30 (15 with 200% haste)

Zuez asked what the odds of the AA activating is...very good question imo...and if anyone does know a ball park guess...very good chance that you'll get more hits with a 2h with a T2 BP than with a 1h.

My major question on this was something I read from P99. On P99 it was confirmed by GMs, and tested over and over and confirmed over and over by players.

Regardless of haste and delay and stuff you were still limited to the amount of procs you could have in a given time period (On P99 most tests were conducted over a 1m time frame.). Hunter, can you confirm or deny that's how procs work on this server also? Hell I'll even accept an I don't know answer on this one really :P

Also, I like many here use MQ2. Another cool perk about that is you can see all the item information, including proc rating. All the weapons on P99 had a proc rating of 0 (yeah sue me I used MQ there too), here though, since pally epic is what's really in question, that has a proc rating of 50. And I'll be honest, I stand completely confused as to how that is intregrated into the combat mechanics.

Just figured I'd toss that out and see how many people jump on it like hungry wolves :D

Your haste calc is wrong. A delay of 30 with 200% haste is reduced to 10. A delay of 15 with 200% haste is reduced to 5 but with an effective haste of 10 because 10 is the lowest delay you can have.

I thought base haste was 100% so at 100% 30 delay is 30 delay, but it's not it's 20?

I'm pulling these numbers from what my UF client tells me, naked I'm at 100% haste.

In the UF client when it shows 100% it means you are neither hasted or slowed.  If you had 100% haste it would show 200%, and if you were slowed by 50% it would show 50%.