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Title: Alt-Tab Replacement?
Post by: Rick on August 22, 2010, 07:28:10 pm
Does anyone know a way to make atl-tab easier?  Is there a way to assign a window so that you press 1-2-3 and it goes to that perspective account.  If theres no way to do that does anyone know a program that allows you to "alt-tab" easier.  Running vista and the way it stands if you accidently alt-tab past the window you need you have to cycle back through all the others to get to it.  If anyone has a solution to this please share and please don't say WinEq.

Edit: I've been digging and found something called Switcher 2.0.0 has anyone ever used this and how does it work well?


Title: Re: Alt-Tab Replacement?
Post by: Xiggie | Stone on August 22, 2010, 07:37:06 pm
Umm, why not say wineq? To the best of my knowledge that is the only solution.


Title: Re: Alt-Tab Replacement?
Post by: Rick on August 22, 2010, 07:38:37 pm
I dont want multiple windows on 1 screen just want a fast/accurate way to switch between them.


Title: Re: Alt-Tab Replacement?
Post by: Lexington on August 22, 2010, 08:14:32 pm
the wineq has a built in hotkey thing for each window. this is the easiest route for this.


Title: Re: Alt-Tab Replacement?
Post by: Rick on August 22, 2010, 08:16:30 pm
The free version has this option?


Title: Re: Alt-Tab Replacement?
Post by: swamphy on August 22, 2010, 09:03:47 pm
Yes. Free version is all you need.

It gives a key code for each window. ie Alt-F1, Alt-F2... or something like that


Title: Re: Alt-Tab Replacement?
Post by: Xiggie | Stone on August 22, 2010, 09:09:08 pm
You don't have to have multiple screens opened up at the same time on wineq. visually it will be exactly the same, just a little more manageable.


Title: Re: Alt-Tab Replacement?
Post by: Rick on August 22, 2010, 09:14:29 pm
I have a paid version of WinEQ and wasn't very happy with it but I guess if its the only thing out there to swap windows I guess i'll go back to it.  Was hoping to find something I could assign an account with a single hotkey(like 1) that swaps to that account.  1 warrior, 2 cleric, 3 dps, something to that effect.  But, if WinEQ with a key combo is my only option then so be it.  Thanks for the responses.


Title: Re: Alt-Tab Replacement?
Post by: Loyal on August 22, 2010, 10:24:11 pm
I thought you could change the Hotkey to switch to a specific instance of WinEQ.

This way all you have to do is log you chars on in the same order evertime and you have exactly what you are looking for.

I dont know for sure if this is possible cause i havent done it. I have a Keyboard with Macro Keys that i have set to press the multi key combo for switching.


Title: Re: Alt-Tab Replacement?
Post by: Rick on August 22, 2010, 11:30:15 pm
I thought you could change the Hotkey to switch to a specific instance of WinEQ.

This way all you have to do is log you chars on in the same order evertime and you have exactly what you are looking for.

I dont know for sure if this is possible cause i havent done it. I have a Keyboard with Macro Keys that i have set to press the multi key combo for switching.

You use an In-game marco/hotkey to do this?   I'm not sure exactly what kinda of marco your talking about here. 


Title: Re: Alt-Tab Replacement?
Post by: Zeval31 on August 23, 2010, 03:55:38 am
small tid-bit of info for the OP, Shift+Alt+Tab allows to cycle in reverse order


Title: Re: Alt-Tab Replacement?
Post by: Likkety on August 23, 2010, 05:59:43 am
With WinEQ, it's Ctrl-Alt-#. Number being the order you logged in the toons.


Title: Re: Alt-Tab Replacement?
Post by: Isaaru on August 23, 2010, 09:32:09 am
Try playing in window mode and just selecting the window you want/need.

I do that while I box and it works well.  Sometimes the order gets messed up zoning but if you're on W7 you can reorder them.


Title: Re: Alt-Tab Replacement?
Post by: Xiggie | Stone on August 23, 2010, 10:16:56 am
Selecting the window you want only works in SoF/SoD. In Titanium you can not select it with the mouse.


Title: Re: Alt-Tab Replacement?
Post by: Zeval31 on August 23, 2010, 10:51:33 am
is the CTrl-Alt-# available in the free version of WinEQ?


Title: Re: Alt-Tab Replacement?
Post by: Loyal on August 23, 2010, 10:55:43 am
You use an In-game marco/hotkey to do this?   I'm not sure exactly what kinda of marco your talking about here.  

http://www.logitech.com/en-us/keyboards/keyboard/devices/3498#section=article_6102 (http://www.logitech.com/en-us/keyboards/keyboard/devices/3498#section=article_6102)

My Keyboard has six additional keys on the left side. I can program (outside of EQ) a macro to be performed with one keystroke.

For example: By pressing my macro #1 key once my computer thinks i pressed Ctrl+Alt+1.

But someone correct me if im wrong WinEQ allows you to change the Crtl+Alt+# scheme to any key you would like, right?

Edit:
is the CTrl-Alt-# available in the free version of WinEQ?

Yes


Title: Re: Alt-Tab Replacement?
Post by: Isaaru on August 23, 2010, 11:48:53 am
Selecting the window you want only works in SoF/SoD. In Titanium you can not select it with the mouse.

Something must be really wrong with my game then because I've been doing it since 2007 when I first started playing Emu.


Title: Re: Alt-Tab Replacement?
Post by: walk2k on August 23, 2010, 11:56:20 am
I only play 2 or 3 at a time but I just use windowed mode and tile the windows, then I can see all of them at once, make sure auto-follow is working and someone isn't staring at a wall...  >:( and click on anything I need.  If you load them in the same order you can even click the taskbar icons.  Actually I think you can re-arrange the taskbar icons in W7.


Title: Re: Alt-Tab Replacement?
Post by: Drezden on August 23, 2010, 04:16:39 pm
Try ISboxer


Title: Re: Alt-Tab Replacement?
Post by: barrettd04 on August 23, 2010, 05:51:24 pm
  Actually I think you can re-arrange the taskbar icons in W7.

Yes you can.  This is what I do.


Title: Re: Alt-Tab Replacement?
Post by: Rick on August 23, 2010, 11:50:17 pm
Try ISboxer

ISboxer sounds really awsome when you read about it but i'm not computer literate to set it up.  As I stated I have a paid account and tried to get ISboxer working with no luck.  When i went to the help area to get advice I pretty much got ignored and when someone did respond it was usually a very eliteist response by some dick that made it clear he was more computer literate than you.


Title: Re: Alt-Tab Replacement?
Post by: Xiggie | Stone on August 24, 2010, 01:00:27 am
Selecting the window you want only works in SoF/SoD. In Titanium you can not select it with the mouse.

Something must be really wrong with my game then because I've been doing it since 2007 when I first started playing Emu.

If your talking about being able to move your mouse down the bottom of the screen and click each tab instead of alt/tabbing to your clients on titanium then I would like to know how you are doing that. Are you using some sort of 3rd party prog like wineq or something?


Title: Re: Alt-Tab Replacement?
Post by: Chane Laforet on August 24, 2010, 01:15:33 am
Selecting the window you want only works in SoF/SoD. In Titanium you can not select it with the mouse.

Something must be really wrong with my game then because I've been doing it since 2007 when I first started playing Emu.

If your talking about being able to move your mouse down the bottom of the screen and click each tab instead of alt/tabbing to your clients on titanium then I would like to know how you are doing that. Are you using some sort of 3rd party prog like wineq or something?

windowed mode/different window resolution makes it easily possible.


Title: Re: Alt-Tab Replacement?
Post by: Xiggie | Stone on August 24, 2010, 01:30:44 am
Selecting the window you want only works in SoF/SoD. In Titanium you can not select it with the mouse.

Something must be really wrong with my game then because I've been doing it since 2007 when I first started playing Emu.

If your talking about being able to move your mouse down the bottom of the screen and click each tab instead of alt/tabbing to your clients on titanium then I would like to know how you are doing that. Are you using some sort of 3rd party prog like wineq or something?

windowed mode/different window resolution makes it easily possible.

I use windowed mode. When I launch titanium, not matter the resolution I can not move my mouse to the bottom of the screen and click onto a different tab on the task bar. I have tried this with the task bar hidden and not hidden. I can do this in SoF but not titanium. How are you able to do this?


Title: Re: Alt-Tab Replacement?
Post by: Concho Pete on August 24, 2010, 01:37:05 am
Xig, that's how I run my setup using the default client [titanium].  2 separate dirs and just run the exe from each.  Run each window slightly lower than my max res and can either click between them through the windows, or go to my taskbar and select them.

I know your issue though, but have no idea how to fix it.  I used to run into that when I would 2box a few years ago....move mouse down to taskbar and the cursor just stops as though anything within the taskbar is not selectable.


Title: Re: Alt-Tab Replacement?
Post by: tacl on August 24, 2010, 03:34:33 am
there is a 7 day free trial of isboxer. i love it. dont think i would ever box with out. i just followed the videos on their site to set it up, had one issue with EQ crashing after the first box loaded but i found starting with a fresh eqclient.ini and not letting isboxer change my resolution it worked fine. it seems like titanium client does like custom resolution in windowed mode.


Title: Re: Alt-Tab Replacement?
Post by: Xiggie | Stone on August 24, 2010, 03:41:08 am
Ok, I understand what you are saying, but how do you resize the titanium client? I can move mine just a little bit farther up and can even see a sliver of my taskbar. But that hardly seems like enough to be able to click on the fly. And what I mean by sliver is if I am looking at it I can barely see the bottom part of the screen slightly change. You mentioned running the window slightly lower than max res. I have yet to be able to change the size. I moved the mouse to the corners and edges but it does not allow me to change the size at all.


Title: Re: Alt-Tab Replacement?
Post by: Rick on August 24, 2010, 04:27:05 am
there is a 7 day free trial of isboxer. i love it. dont think i would ever box with out. i just followed the videos on their site to set it up, had one issue with EQ crashing after the first box loaded but i found starting with a fresh eqclient.ini and not letting isboxer change my resolution it worked fine. it seems like titanium client does like custom resolution in windowed mode.

 The videos aren't available with 7 day trial.  They aren't even available with a regular subscription, you have to buy a 1 year subscription to gain access to an instructional video.  I didnt' know any of this until i bought a 90 day subscription and hit a wall at every turn.  Has it changed since and now videos are availabe to all subscribers?  I've had a really bad experience with that company that provides that software.


Title: Re: Alt-Tab Replacement?
Post by: lerxst2112 on August 24, 2010, 04:46:55 am
Ok, I understand what you are saying, but how do you resize the titanium client?

You change the size in the video menu.  I don't think you can resize it by dragging the window smaller.


Title: Re: Alt-Tab Replacement?
Post by: tacl on August 24, 2010, 05:07:31 am
http://isboxer.com/index.php/guides/

for character setup http://isboxer.com/index.php/guides/11-overview-videos

those videos are open to everyone. i just mainly watched those do and quick setup and i was running in no time, i spent hours dealing with the crashing issues but i found out it was linked to the custom resolution it sets with titanium. took hours of trying one thing at a time to figure it out lol but the core stuff if all right in those videos.  might have to pause them every 15 seconds to follow along. i just used the wizard to setup team then followed the videos for the rest.


i made sure it i could get it to work before i paid for it.


Title: Re: Alt-Tab Replacement?
Post by: Rick on August 24, 2010, 05:10:18 am
http://isboxer.com/index.php/guides/

for character setup http://isboxer.com/index.php/guides/11-overview-videos

those videos are open to everyone. i just mainly watched those do and quick setup and i was running in no time, i spent hours dealing with the crashing issues but i found out it was linked to the custom resolution it sets with titanium. took hours of trying one thing at a time to figure it out lol but the core stuff if all right in those videos.

I may have to relook into it.  Back when i tried it I had very poor response to questions and no video help was available.  Mabey they wised up and realized people didnt want to buy a year subscription to something they don't know works or not.


Title: Re: Alt-Tab Replacement?
Post by: Xiggie | Stone on August 24, 2010, 05:40:25 am
Ok, I understand what you are saying, but how do you resize the titanium client?

You change the size in the video menu.  I don't think you can resize it by dragging the window smaller.

Thank you, this is exactly the information I was wanting to get. I was unaware this was actually working. Last time I tried it, (years ago) it would constantly cause me to crash or have a black screen so I dismissed it and forgot about it.


Title: Re: Alt-Tab Replacement?
Post by: Isaaru on August 24, 2010, 06:32:16 am
@Xiggie

Other guy beat me to it, but yeah we just set our resolution to something smaller than native resolution via the video menu.  You can also do it via the ini file and while in there you'll notice there are separate resolutions for full screen and windowed mode.  Good luck to you.

Windows 7 makes this style of boxing infinitely easier.


Title: Re: Alt-Tab Replacement?
Post by: Drezden on August 24, 2010, 08:54:48 am
If ya still having trouble setting up ISBoxer let me know,I help anyway I can. Once ya figure out the setup,you will love it !

 I dont do anything fancy,just use it for 3 box window control,plus it auto starts all 3 boxes(to log in screen) and I use a few keystokes(Sit/Stand/Follow/PetsAttack)


Title: Re: Alt-Tab Replacement?
Post by: Omnivore on August 24, 2010, 09:05:50 am
Does anyone know a way to make atl-tab easier?  Is there a way to assign a window so that you press 1-2-3 and it goes to that perspective account.  If theres no way to do that does anyone know a program that allows you to "alt-tab" easier.  Running vista and the way it stands if you accidently alt-tab past the window you need you have to cycle back through all the others to get to it.  If anyone has a solution to this please share and please don't say WinEq.

Edit: I've been digging and found something called Switcher 2.0.0 has anyone ever used this and how does it work well?

I'm not quite sure how the thread got so derailed, but yes you can assign specific hotkeys to specific instances using WinEQ. My setup is (all numpad versions of numbers), Warrior 1, Ranger 2, cleric 3, pal 4, dru 5, mnk 6, bst 7. To get the numpad variations to work when assigning a hotkey, you first set up a profile for each account you have. When setting up the options for it, it'll say something like Global Hotkey. That's where you put in "num #", # being replaced with the number you want, quotations not included.

Hope that helps


Title: Re: Alt-Tab Replacement?
Post by: Xiggie | Stone on August 24, 2010, 02:27:42 pm
Well, for here it does not really matter as I use SoF, but on other server that don't have that option it is good to know. Thanks for all the info.