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Title: Epic 3.5 Quest (Finished)
Post by: Hunter on August 31, 2010, 09:14:39 pm
The Epic Vendor now goes from Epic 3.0 to 3.5 and then 3.5 to 4.0.

The quest is now live in all 4 zones (Surefall, Nexus, FG, CG).

Let me know if there are any bugs, in case I typed in a wrong item ID number in the code. I've only tested the Ranger Epic from 1.5 thru 4.0.

You can farm your Epic 3.5 in T3/T4 zone of hohonora. It requires 10 pages + book to combine into completed book, just like previous epics.

Enjoy!

Hunter


Title: Re: Epic 3.5 Quest (Finished)
Post by: Kvothe on August 31, 2010, 09:23:05 pm
Warrior 3.5 has a clicky of Anger III with a recast of 10 minutes and 30 seconds.

Not sure if you intended that?


Title: Re: Epic 3.5 Quest (Finished)
Post by: Hunter on August 31, 2010, 09:28:57 pm
I'll edit that. Some stats / effects may need tweaking. Keep me posted. See after reboot for update to take affect.


Title: Re: Epic 3.5 Quest (Finished)
Post by: Hunter on August 31, 2010, 09:37:04 pm
Tweaked some unintended things that will update on next 6am reboot, such as Paladin proc and Warrior click. Most of the stats should be correct, but still might need to tweak a few things, mostly just graphics.



Title: Re: Epic 3.5 Quest (Finished)
Post by: Lexington on August 31, 2010, 10:14:44 pm
Yes, not sure if intended so putting this out there, pally 3.5 (aside from the 4.0 proc) has same hp regarldess if it's 1hander or 2hander.

And just to fill me in. Is the proc 3.5 suppose to be 5k? I'm just assuming here since 3.0 is 4k, and the 4.0 is 6k- talkin about the dd.  Also is the 3.5 graphic suppose to differ from the 3.0 on any of the epics? Thx for info. Love that they're in :)


Title: Re: Epic 3.5 Quest (Finished)
Post by: Hunter on August 31, 2010, 10:17:33 pm
I updated the Paladin proc already, had 4.0 proc and changed it to 3.0 proc for now, and maybe a 3.5 proc later dunno.

Graphics can still change.


Title: Re: Epic 3.5 Quest (Finished)
Post by: think on September 07, 2010, 03:35:23 pm
Thanks for all of your hard work getting the 3.5s put in, Hunter!


But please please please consider changing the warrior 3.5 graphic.

Those little tiny axes (what used to be the new 4.0) are so lame, and do not match the nature of the weapon at all. Pretty bummed to go from a giant ice sword (the 3.0) to these tiny axes...

Obviously open for discussion, but would you consider the Blade of Carnage grahpic? It is simple, yet much more menacing looking than the current graphic. Blade of Carnage was a badass old school tanking weapon, so it fits warriors very well imo. And it does not have any particle effects to worry about making any extra lag for the FoH guys who box 6 warriors at a time.. hehe.



Title: Re: Epic 3.5 Quest (Finished)
Post by: sohami on September 08, 2010, 07:16:43 am
WAR 4.0 should be wurmslayer or split blade.


Title: Re: Epic 3.5 Quest (Finished)
Post by: krujo81 on September 08, 2010, 07:42:45 am
4.0's should be SSOY graphics


Title: Re: Epic 3.5 Quest (Finished)
Post by: think on September 08, 2010, 09:38:51 pm
Thanks for the war 3.5 graphic update!

Love it!  8)


Title: Re: Epic 3.5 Quest (Finished)
Post by: sohami on September 09, 2010, 07:10:44 am
What is it?  :)


Title: Re: Epic 3.5 Quest (Finished)
Post by: think on September 09, 2010, 09:31:14 am
Blade of Carnage  :o  8)


Title: Re: Epic 3.5 Quest (Finished)
Post by: Gnaughty on September 21, 2010, 12:00:37 am
How about we make the war weapon to big ass Uxtalzons that drag from my hip.  I swing him around at people and do some major damage, but then, when shit gets deep, show him some pictures of naked old people and have a bonus blunt damage wewts!


Title: Re: Epic 3.5 Quest (Finished)
Post by: ieawenpo on September 21, 2010, 12:21:35 am
Can we look at making the 3.5's even worth the effort to obtain?
The % of statistic increase from 3.0 to 3.5 to 4.0 is greatly off.


Title: Re: Epic 3.5 Quest (Finished)
Post by: Lexington on September 21, 2010, 02:02:04 am
the stats are fine on 3.5 imho- the proc/clickies are the same as 3.0's tho.  I think it's alright tbh
It's more of a stepping stone towards 4.0, which is and has been achievable with nothing but 3.0 toons.


Title: Re: Epic 3.5 Quest (Finished)
Post by: ieawenpo on September 21, 2010, 09:40:37 am
the stats are fine on 3.5 imho- the proc/clickies are the same as 3.0's tho.  I think it's alright tbh
It's more of a stepping stone towards 4.0, which is and has been achievable with nothing but 3.0 toons.
What im saying is the 3.5 being a stepping stone is a time sink.
If you had a choice, gear up all your toons and skip 3.5 and hit the 4.0's you likely would.
If you have 2-3 groups to gear up for 3.5's the timesink is insane, and the rewards are hardly worth the effort.


Title: Re: Epic 3.5 Quest (Finished)
Post by: Demin on September 21, 2010, 11:12:08 am
As much as I like Lexington, I have to disagree...and completely agree with ieawenpo.  Almost every 3.5 is not worth the effort involved. For dps, maybe. But warrior is just a base damage increase, cleric is a 1hb that just gives some extra hp and mana and a click that will hardly ever get used. Pally dormant proc anything different.

To make it worth it, warrior should give either epic stonewall or a 3rd aug slot...both are on 4.0, but 3.5 should have half that to make it worth the effort. Cleric 1hb is fine, but it should have some increased healing effect. The amount of effort to get the pages and kill Shadow is not worth the "upgrade" except for pure dps where base weapon damage actually comes into play (monk, ranger, rogue).


Title: Re: Epic 3.5 Quest (Finished)
Post by: ieawenpo on September 21, 2010, 11:20:59 am
Lets put it this way.

If we didnt have 4.0's in the game right now and hunter said "Hey guys, I made the 3.5's, here they are". I seriously doubt we would see such gimp items, keeping in mind what level of stats the 4.0's are to have.




Title: Re: Epic 3.5 Quest (Finished)
Post by: Lexington on September 21, 2010, 02:38:56 pm
well the point of it is, they are better than the 3.0's not much but they're better, lets look at the 1.0 thru 2.5's
they're weak as hell too, and are much weaker than the 3.0. Also those are a timesink as well, granted not as much if ppl already have a 3.0, but 3.5 isn't that bad either if ppl have 4.0's already. That's all I'm saying :)


Title: Re: Epic 3.5 Quest (Finished)
Post by: gimpy on September 21, 2010, 03:02:31 pm
And for those that didn't buy the 4.0?  The 3.5 is a huge timesink (4 hour spawn on Shadow), with little improvement in the weapon. 


Title: Re: Epic 3.5 Quest (Finished)
Post by: Lexington on September 21, 2010, 03:17:30 pm
true, but there are always instances as far as the spawn time goes


Title: Re: Epic 3.5 Quest (Finished)
Post by: Gnaughty on September 21, 2010, 07:25:16 pm
100k instance and hes up for you 6 times a day, belly up the cash guys.  I know its tougher than shit to get the money going but Ive had to do it to be in myown instance everyday.


Title: Re: Epic 3.5 Quest (Finished)
Post by: ieawenpo on September 21, 2010, 10:20:50 pm
Not complaining about the instances.

To my point on the 3.5's being crap, look at the war's, although I havent got the time to look at them all.

(http://imgur.com/xOsj8.jpg)

DMG is about right but once you factor in the extra aug slot, the DMG in the 3.5 should be closer to 125
DLY is about right.
HP is a joke. 3.5 should be closer to 5000
AC is about right
Regen is about right.

2x4.0's on a warrior is a massive 25k HP increase over the 3.0's
2x3.5's on a warrior is a laughable 500hp increase  :D

I can only assume that the rest of the 3.5's and 4.0 are similarly progressed.


Title: Re: Epic 3.5 Quest (Finished)
Post by: Thyl on September 21, 2010, 10:24:06 pm
I'm actually so disillusioned with the 3.5s I wish I could just go straight for 4.0s. Minor stat increase no proc increases for serious time investement.


Title: Re: Epic 3.5 Quest (Finished)
Post by: Lexington on September 22, 2010, 12:56:40 am
indeed, think of it as - fg/cg round 2


Title: Re: Epic 3.5 Quest (Finished)
Post by: Thyl on September 22, 2010, 08:29:28 am
indeed, think of it as - fg/cg round 2

FG/CG provides a huge increase in ability with maxing skills over normal caps. Additionally you get access to very beneficially items such as the rez stone, improved mana stone, masters ring, anger augs, and stat/regen food. In addition to getting 2.5s which are often a large step up from 2.0s. Oh yeah and the buff bot and pet weapons.


Title: Re: Epic 3.5 Quest (Finished)
Post by: Fugitive on September 25, 2010, 08:56:04 am
Honestly,
The upgrade to a 3.5 is NOT worth the time sink.

Ways to fix this can be small.

Shadow does not need to be that long of a fight (period) He is easy but make a change to his hitpoints cut them in half and also reduce his spawn time to 2 hours.

Up the page drop just a tiny bit not much just a small amount.

I've done my warrior's, I got my pally's 3.5 last night.. and was completely sad with the end results of the amount of farming (timesink) that went into it just for  HPs, 10DMG, and 250REGEN. (and no proc changes)

I feel with the above mentioned Shadow changes alone will make it a little more worthwhile to get.

 :'(

I do agree it is a stepping stone, so I'm taking that away from above posters.
The time involved is the problem.


Title: Re: Epic 3.5 Quest (Finished)
Post by: azzen on October 04, 2010, 03:41:10 am
Wurmslayer icon for war epic 4.0 would be soooooooo PIMP


Title: Re: Epic 3.5 Quest (Finished)
Post by: azzen on October 09, 2010, 01:33:27 pm
em.. i dont see the epic vendor mentioning anything about the 3.5? even to my characters with 3.0...

i simply hail him and dont get 3.5 as an option...

something im doing wrong?


Title: Re: Epic 3.5 Quest (Finished)
Post by: Demin on October 09, 2010, 01:43:36 pm
No, he just doesn't mention 3.5 or 4.0. 
Get the pages from Avatars in HoH, combine them in the 3.5 book you get from Shadow in HoH. That makes a complete 3.5 book.  Turn that book plus 3.0 epic in to guy to get back 3.5 epic.

4.0 is a completed book that drops from MCP in Air.