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Title: 3 New Guild Quest
Post by: Hunter on September 16, 2010, 10:26:25 am
Talked to Basher today about possibility of adding 3 new guild quest.

Assassin Guild
Gladiator Guild
Tradeskill Guild

The rewards for Tradeskill Guild would be able to craft all/all tradeable high end (high hp etc) armor for millions of plat worth of components sold on vendors in that zone which could potentially help with RoA Quest.

How to get into these three guilds are yet to be released until we finish them, but they will not be like the item camp from FG or CG. They will have different methods of getting guilded.

Feel free to discuss. We haven't started yet, as I just thought about it today, while thinking about Oblivion (PC/Xbox Game). If we start this, it would put a pause on our T5 work but would probably benefit more users in the short term than the few users that would have T5 access now. If we did guild quest first, the T5 would be worked on immediately after. Feel free to post ideas.

Thanks,

Hunter


Title: Re: 3 New Guild Quest
Post by: Gantrathor on September 16, 2010, 10:35:21 am
Will these guilds flag you for the 2.5, relieving some pressure from the current CG/FG quests?


Title: Re: 3 New Guild Quest
Post by: Hunter on September 16, 2010, 10:44:39 am
Maybe, haven't decided.


Title: Re: 3 New Guild Quest
Post by: Loyal on September 16, 2010, 10:45:18 am
Would love to know the general direction you were thinking of going with the Assasin and Gladiator Guilds.

As for the Tradeskill Guild - it sounds great, something that I might get access to on a few chars.

Now, the fact that you are going to make these items in the millions price range is a bit interesting and may atually be very offputting to the majority of its potential users.

RoA's are typically done rather quickly with the RoAer being completely naked with just a Shammy buff. Adding additinoal High HP gear would probably only speed up 1-47 by 2-5 minutes.

47-70 is usually done with the RoA'er being completely afk in PoFire while the level 70s do all the work making any high HP hear they have useless.

This would hardly make it worth spending millions of platinum to save a few hours worth of game time.

It would be sweet to see the tradeskill guild add some utility to characters regardless of their progression. Perhaps the ability to make some clicky items or potions with buffs that can be appreciated by all. For instance a HP buff that stacks with all other buffs that increases your max HPs by a percentage.  


Title: Re: 3 New Guild Quest
Post by: Fugitive on September 16, 2010, 10:56:21 am
Good ideas all around.

Good work on keeping it interesting all the time.

Would be neat to do some more solo quests with neat end results.



Title: Re: 3 New Guild Quest
Post by: Fugitive on September 16, 2010, 11:10:04 am
Lyricz ..

your sig is giving me epileptic seizures..
.


Title: Re: 3 New Guild Quest
Post by: Hunter on September 16, 2010, 11:15:41 am
Lyricz, your sig annoys me, change the pic before I delete you! =P


Title: Re: 3 New Guild Quest
Post by: Lyricz on September 16, 2010, 11:16:58 am
Lyricz ..

your sig is giving me epileptic seizures..
.


@Lyricz Dude that sig is awsome! nom nom nom =)



Haters gonna hate.


Title: Re: 3 New Guild Quest
Post by: Fugitive on September 16, 2010, 11:18:59 am
Not hating =) wish it wasn't moving at 1 gazillion fps...

 ;D

nomonom


Title: Re: 3 New Guild Quest
Post by: Lyricz on September 16, 2010, 11:19:52 am
Its one thing to get rid of my sig, but hunter, you didn't have to eat my post :(


Title: Re: 3 New Guild Quest
Post by: kaizen on September 16, 2010, 11:54:23 am
I vote for working on new guild quests and suspending T5 work


Title: Re: 3 New Guild Quest
Post by: Hunter on September 16, 2010, 12:05:54 pm
Its one thing to get rid of my sig, but hunter, you didn't have to eat my post :(

Sorry, it super annoyed me and I used my super powers.


Title: Re: 3 New Guild Quest
Post by: Lilknobs on September 16, 2010, 12:39:29 pm
Sounds like a great concept.  I would definitely like to see this come up.  Is there any plans in the future to change up the current custom zones that most the new people use for leveling?  Such as, instead of 1-10 being Field of Bone, going to GFay or something along the lines?  Just a concept.

Again, thanks for the update!


Title: Re: 3 New Guild Quest
Post by: karathas78 on September 16, 2010, 02:00:03 pm
Sounds good to me Hunter. I would like to see more on that as it comes avalible, but i think like you 3 new guilds will benefit more then T5.


Title: Re: 3 New Guild Quest
Post by: sohami on September 16, 2010, 02:01:03 pm
Love the idea. Maybe renaming "assassin" to "brawler" so its more of a general term to rangers/monks but here im just nitpicking, and it depends on the usage intent!

but sounds really exciting dude!


Title: Re: 3 New Guild Quest
Post by: jmac on September 16, 2010, 03:22:35 pm
These should be t2 guild quests so you still have to do fg/cg imo. Good idea though, I think ToV should be used for some reason! hah love that zone or veeshan's peak


Title: Re: 3 New Guild Quest
Post by: krujo81 on September 16, 2010, 05:14:02 pm
Would love to know the general direction you were thinking of going with the Assasin and Gladiator Guilds.

As for the Tradeskill Guild - it sounds great, something that I might get access to on a few chars.

Now, the fact that you are going to make these items in the millions price range is a bit interesting and may atually be very offputting to the majority of its potential users.

RoA's are typically done rather quickly with the RoAer being completely naked with just a Shammy buff. Adding additinoal High HP gear would probably only speed up 1-47 by 2-5 minutes.

47-70 is usually done with the RoA'er being completely afk in PoFire while the level 70s do all the work making any high HP hear they have useless.

This would hardly make it worth spending millions of platinum to save a few hours worth of game time.

It would be sweet to see the tradeskill guild add some utility to characters regardless of their progression. Perhaps the ability to make some clicky items or potions with buffs that can be appreciated by all. For instance a HP buff that stacks with all other buffs that increases your max HPs by a percentage.  


I agree with the points you made here, I think that charms upgrades should be one of those high end items maybe the harder of the tradeskills.


Title: Re: 3 New Guild Quest
Post by: Scootz on September 16, 2010, 08:05:17 pm
Oblivion is also on the PS3, where's the love for PS3?


Title: Re: 3 New Guild Quest
Post by: Strix on September 16, 2010, 08:53:18 pm
Hi Hunter

A very exciting new concept.  As a person who really liked the crafting side of this game I was always disappointed when the tradeskills almost became redundant.  Here's a couple of ideas I though would be good:
-  Membership into the crafting guild could allow you to get patterns to make cool items (see below)
- The ability to make a backpack with 20 slots (and zero weight limit)
- A jewel crafting quest that would allow you to also place charms into an Amulet (could have an Ultimate Amulet even).  Perhaps not as intensive as the Ultimate Charm in terms of farming - almost like a bridging UC.
- A crafting alternative to the Ring of Ages (would make a complementary ring for the other slot - like a RoA2).  I could imagine that there could be quest items to get along the way to make this interesting (especially items that appear to be randomly lying on the floor in certainly zones - like all those damn rods that seem to have no purpose).
-  Craftable Augs (Kind of like patches people could put on clothing)

Strix


Title: Re: 3 New Guild Quest
Post by: Concho Pete on September 17, 2010, 01:36:58 am
My apologies for the incoming wall of text.

The Assassin/Gladiator could be branches off of the FG guild; more specialized in DPS / tanking respectively.

Then down the road, set up the same type of specialized branches for the Caster's Guild; DPS / buff & healing : say something along the lines of Evoker / Alteration guilds.

The FG/CG remain prequisites and offer what they do now, except the warrior Anger Augs get moved to the subset guild,  where each class will have a class defined aug and/or charm they can build upon.  Each toon can still join the FG and CG, but can choose only one specialized guild.  For instance,  my SK is FG/CG but could only join one of the 4 subset guilds and my aug/charm would reflect that decision.  If I went Evoker, my DOTs and damage portion of my lifetaps would increase, if I went Alteration the heal portion of the taps would increase but not the damage, and self buffs would increase by a %.

To incorporate the tradeskill guild into these new class based guilds, they would have access to some sort of gem or material [possibly quested] that could be used in enhancing an already crafted, high end, item.  Id say limit this to 2-3 pieces, chest and leg for example.  So the tradeskill guild member can craft an high end BP/robe and then a member of the evoker guild comes along with some material/gem that they got from a quest which would make that robe enchance cast time/damage.  A cleric comes along with their material/gem from the alteration guild and once placed into that crafted BP, it has a more healing/buff oriented effect.

Also make it a pre-req to have the ROA at a certain level before be able to enter the tradeskill guild, say 75, not max, but to where some crafting time was put into it.

No idea if this is along the lines of what you were thinking Hunter and not sure if my idea is coming across clearly in text; but either way, it would be nice to see this build off of what is already in place [cg/fg/roa] and it all to have some sort of stand alone as well as inter-twined structure WITH each class being able to benefit greatly from the time/effort put in.  As it stands now, not all classes benefit the same from the FG/CG and I see this as a way to bring some underutilized classes up to par instead of just remaining buff/bot boxes.


Title: Re: 3 New Guild Quest
Post by: Thyl on September 17, 2010, 09:03:20 am
These should be t2 guild quests so you still have to do fg/cg imo. Good idea though, I think ToV should be used for some reason! hah love that zone or veeshan's peak

I actually hope ToV doesnt get used. Hunter recently allowed instances to be created for it and there is finally a chance to do the zone, in the past it's almost always been down.


Title: Re: 3 New Guild Quest
Post by: stricken on September 17, 2010, 09:23:58 am
Great Idea New content is always appreciated  :)


Title: Re: 3 New Guild Quest
Post by: Uxt on September 17, 2010, 01:15:09 pm
Helping make RoA and content already in the game is cool, but it needs to have new stuff as well. Most players who can box will get RoA down to 15-20 minutes per rank (10 a day sometimes). For those of us who already have RoA 100, there's no need to even join the guilds unless there's added benefits.

First thing that immediately comes to mind when I see Tradeskill guild: Unlimited Grow/Shrink clickies and the possibility of a crappy one-shot pet summoning item.


Title: Re: 3 New Guild Quest
Post by: sohami on September 17, 2010, 02:11:12 pm
In this case, is the pet just so you can have your way with it? i.e. "one shot it?" ;)

i keed i keed


Title: Re: 3 New Guild Quest
Post by: Soprano on September 19, 2010, 10:40:35 pm
For your consideration, the Tradeskill Guild could grant members the ability to make some of the custom items/gear, "repaired," "improved," and "pristine."

For example, an uncommon drop in say T2, and the T2 BP, combined in a Tradeskill Guild only forge/sewing kit would return it to you as "repaired (insert BP name)" with a modest boost to AC.  A rare drop from the same tier, combined in the guild forge/kit with a "repaired BP" would return it "improved" with a boost to stats, and finally an ultra-rare drop combined with the "improved BP" would give you a "pristine" version, with a boost to effects.  A failure on this could be possible at any stage with a return of the original BP if a combine fails.

The same could be done for epics with say "sharpened," "reinforced," and "balanced."  Sharpen could improve its damage,   reinforced could improve its AC/stats, and balanced could improve its delay/effects.