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Have we become victims?!?!?!

Alright rogues, we might have to start poisoning up and asking Hunter for assassination targets . . .

I'm sure this question has been asked/explained elsewhere, so please feel free to reply with only a link and I would be very appreciative.

Why shouldn't bards be allowed to charm mobs? I'm not saying charm bosses and wipe the zone with them, but what would be the real harm in allowing a bard to charm a zone-appropriate trash mob? I don't think it would become an unstoppably impossible pet, even if the fireswords were to work for it.

Your thoughts?

Last time I parsed, actually, my Rogue's DPS parsed lower than my 3.0 bard's. I'll post parses as I can.

I just wanted to post some suggestion to make Rogues more effective. I play a Rogue main and would simply like to be able to continue to play a Rogue as my main without having to be drug around by guildies.

From what I understand, there is confusion as to whether a cap exists on a Rogue's backstab damage and whether or not it is client specific, yada yada yada. I think we might be able to work around that to still increase Rogue DPS.

Most of my suggestions though, work by modifying and emphasizing backstab mechanics. The Rogue was never meant to be a box-able character and I don't think we should dummy it down to make it one.

1. Increase rate of double and triple backstabs. It doesn't have to become a 50% thing, just maybe by 10% would help increase DPS in combination with the next suggestion.

2. Increase minimum backstab damage. Currently, I have 3.0's and if I'm facing the mob, clicking on backstab seems to have a greater chance to do a single backstab of 179 damage, in the midst of my regular damage which is at least twice that amount on a bad shot.

3. Decrease backstab reuse time? This would increase DPS quite a bit, but would then decrease rates of daggerfall enhanced backstabs, which could potentially keep the DPS generated the same. So maybe also decrease reuse time on 3.0 clicky and disc.

4. Poison mechanics, maybe make them a combat innate? In live, one of the cool things about a Rogue was being able to poison your dagger, sneak up, and backstab a mob to being near 50% quickly and risking minimum damage to yourself by maxing your DPS on first shot. Honestly though, a poison that works for one shot is almost useless on this server, especially at the amount of damage the old poisons used to do. This will probably require a lot of DB editing, so maybe instead make a set of poisons created with the Magic Box using things you find off of T1/T2 chests and mini-bosses? Or, of course, we could just get a super-cool poison DD on the 3.0's and above.

Anyway, just some stuff to think about, and I'll add more as I come up with ideas.

Even worse, I don't have a pic of it, but the 4.0 has the same backstab damage as the 3.5 and 3.0, meaning a Rogue's usefulness drops at the higher tiers as their dps compared to other classes wanes. There isn't even a piercing aug with bonus backstab damage to help out, although it would be cool if hunter could make one . . .

Backstab is currently capped on SoD clients...  Titanium and SoF have no issues with backstabbing atm. Rogue are indeed good dps, however they need to be played as a main and not part of a box team for full result.

Any idea what the cap is and when it starts restricting your dps? I've been using a SoD client the whole time so I wouldn't know.

Isn't that a bug that will eventually be fixed though?

Etched Obsidian Shards give bonus poison dmg as well, and if higher levels had a bonus to backstab damage, it would make rogues more effective characters.

Although we have aug recipes for slot 8's on pretty much every weapon, we seem to be missing an aug for piercing weapons, which would make rogues much more valuable. At the moment, we seem to be stuck with level II or III Etched Obsidian Shards, but I'm sure a level V would me an amazing upgrade.