Just to clear my post up, i dont think im suggesting anything too extreme. 1/5 isnt much of a set back, especially considering how much those heals probably over lap while proc healing a group. I dont want to nerf anything, keep the 1/5 for all i care. But clerics should be buffed up regardless. Like whoever said, i think that its wrong that a tank class is the primary healer in the game and the promary healer class of the game is basically worthless. This is my issue, not really paladins. I think my suggestions are legitimate, they help make the cleric more group oriented, which i think is what playing this game is all about. Ide love to see more grouping than boxing, call me crazy. I know this isnt really practical considering our numbers, especially in high end, but box crews(4+) may be a challenge for one person but how much fun is a challenge without some company? I think some changes to the cleric could make picking up an LFG melee that much more practical, seeing as they pose a heal bonus as well as dps.

I think if you brought down pally proc heals effectiveness by like 1/5 collectively you would bring them down enough to be reasonable, right now they are basically invincible. bash away, but this is the truth.

as far as clerics, they really have no way of competing with current pallys, and even with the 1/5 decrease they still trail significantly. to be honest, i think pallys have healing locked down as it is, not that thats a bad thing, or good thing. I like the group buff proc idea, this would make melees more worth while in groups, and worthwhile to have a cleric around. If you made the proc maybe 1/10 of the pally proc, you would have a significant amount of healing but at the same time not over powered amount. for example 4 melees would produce as much as about half a pally, it wouldnt make it worthwhile to have all melee and one cleric and would also give a cleric something to do while clearing, meleeing for small heals. This would be a good proc buff. also to this low duration, maybe 45 second buff, you could add an HP buff, lets say 15k while the buff is active. it would make up for the lack of healing and give something to the group that a shaman box once an hour for buffs cant give you. In addition to this short duration proc/hp buff i think it would be important to buff up the clerics single target healing. Pallys i think are fine doing the group healing, i would like to see one in a group instead of a group of 3 and 1 tank, that tank being a wizard... that is the poster child of an unbalanced class(pally that is). Buff up the single target heals for clerics and now you have a significant group role for a cleric as someone who can supplement a pally to keep the group alive, as well as keep the tank up against serious DPS. this improvement would probably be easiest done through lower recast quick casts, AHL, renewals, as well as a higher epic focus, say 6 or 800 or so. It would be enough to get them back into groups as a significant class, and still have need for a pally in the group, as well as DPS and obviously a tank. Also a spell, or maybe REALLY expensive AA or epic click of an insta group 100k CH would be legit, make it like a 5 minute recast, emergency type spell. basically a divine arbitration type but practical at high end.
I think this idea has a huge potential to bring GROUPING back to the higher end of the game as well as bring back melee classes and group/class  balance across the board. It would make more classes, other than the cleric, more useful.

I personally love playing a cleric and playing the class as a main, ide love to see it make a come back.
Just my 2 cents~

oh my, when did we get this cute anddd nerdy girl?! What do you play in game Apology?

I play a rogue as my main, i started him first and hes definitely my highest geared toon. I box Rogue/Pally/Cleric and sometimes do Rogue/SK/Pally. My rogue is full T2 with T3 gloves, and i have almost max regen augs. I regen a fuckkkk load and DPS pretty legit, its easy to play him, and it keeps me entertained, while boxing my other toons. I just need to autoattack on pally and keep agro sometimes, and tab to cleric for heals occasionally, the rogue is a pretty nice addition. I use titanium and my BS are capped at like 41k... havnt seen any higher yet i dont htink, i can triple them though, but rarely. usually a BS round is around 40-90k with dagerfall. I can solo T1 dragons with him, he has about 65k hp with FG buffs, about 10k more than my pally tank right now lol I wish we could get some DPS ups though, im not sure in what form. Recently ive been thinking about multiple discs at one time, i think that would help... and lower reuses on them as well. Fun class though, my ultimate money maker. With bard speed boots hes a blast just solo, in pretty much any zone. i can one shot most old world bosses without even being hit lol

Swamphy; wow. Very sexy outfit youve got there

and here am i ! and my toons are Nesta/Naturol/Logic/Dedicant; RL name is Nolan hence the forum name lol