I'd suggest just letting it go and just try to ignore the people you dont like or dont care to agree with.

Rules are Rules, Keep turning a blind eye things will get worse.

I believe you misinterpreted what I meant by that, or I may not have been concise enough. My fault. When all the smoke is cleared, and your toon is deleted, deleveled, name changed or rerolled. If you do not like how person A, B, or C decides they want to handle things, ignore that player.

Having read and re-read this thread many times, I've more than seen my fair share of people using "just ignore them" argument. It doesn't work.

/sigh
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It's not about being that cop Sylkkdaskr.. It's about 1 pass gives another gives another then all the goons will run around with names like IRAPEDYOURMOMSASSANDPEEDINIT FORFUNHAHAHA or IBLAST PUSSYFORFUN.

You nip the stuff in the bud early, Hunter has squelched people for less in game with just a slip of shit or fuck (stuff like that)

 No one said BAN THE FUCKER, Just get his fucking name changed or make a new char damn.

Hunter wants close to a PG(ish) server as can be.. now RANTS and FLAMES.. different story (people shouldn't click here if they have virgin eyeballs)

I think you just want to argue. I put, in my wall of text that you omitted, the phrase "slightly offensive names". Yes that phrase is subject to interpretation, but one of the common trends I read throughout is "common sense". Common sense would tell you  IRAPEDYOURMOMSASSANDPEEDINIT FORFUNHAHAHA or IBLAST PUSSYFORFUN are beyond "slightly offensive."

I'm not here to argue rules, or whether something is right or wrong. I suggest you re-read my "wall of text" if you wish to make an argumentative retort.

/sigh

I don't know why anyone argues in this thread. Trust me, I understand you people who are just completely irate at the few who go above and beyond normal policing duties. Trust me, I get it. But if you also read the rest of this thread, there are many many others who have tried to get their point across, usually unsuccessfully.

As useless as it may seem playing on a free server, to some people their name (reputation in this sense) matters way more than you would expect. So you really are going to have to get used to that or, without sounding cliche, leave.

I do not want you to leave. I'd love a much more diversely populated server. And in all hoensty, I would much rather give someone with a mildly offensive name the benefit of the doubt before crying the sky is falling down.

Not all people who roll slightly immature/offensive names has the "maturity of a 12 year old". That is just a rediculous blanket accusation. Some of the off color jokes, comments, and even blatant hand raising that some people scream 12 year old immaturity more than someone with a trivial name.

No im not condoning rule breaking and I totally get the thought process behind the rules. But you CANT always judge a book by it's cover.

Ive been here a few months now. Ive seen people complain on this thread about some folks with offensive names, yet, I have yet to see those people training, trolling /ooc or any other misdeeds. That is not to say they havent, I'm just saying I personally have not seen it.

One of Kylok's points was to bring it to the person before running and telling on them. Seems reasonable. But I think sometimes people have gone too far into thinking their whistle blower entitlement supersedes trying to reason with a person beforehand simply because they have permission.

Trust me, when I get pulled over, I'd much rather get a warning than a speeding ticket. Sometimes I didn't see the speed limit because it was a new neighborhood, or sometimes, I just thought I would go under the radar because no cops would be around and I could get away with it. Do either of those scenarios make me a bad person? No. Yes I broke the law by speeding. Does it mean I'm going to rob a bank or take someones life, or drive drunk? Probably not. Some people, however, enjoy being.... "that" cop. You're just going to have to get used to that. Like it or not, I'ts going to be that way because that's how this server operates.

You will never have the same reputation as others. If the kid with the most toys says you can't play, justifiable or not, whether you agree or not, fair or not, he's going to call the shots because they are his toys. It's not his park, but his bat and ball.  Everyone is going to be more inclined to agree with him, her, them, because that's what keeps the server going.

I'd suggest just letting it go and just try to ignore the people you dont like or dont care to agree with. Most people box all of their own toons anyway so you wont be missing out on much. Sadly, its a vicious circle and keeps things the way they are. It's still fun, but isnt as fun as it could be.

There's a post about it here somewhere...Lemme dig it up.

http://ezserver.online/forums/index.php?topic=1542.0

Pretty sure its explained there.

I read that one before. Im able to put a V in the second slot, type 8, but in the 3.0 the first slot is type 4 wich V's dont go in. This method did not work for me unless im doing it wrong or unless the later warrior epics have all type 8's. Thats why I ask.

With shammy buff and bard you can get to around 47 in 10 minutes, if you know what zone to hit.  war with 4 V's can get you 47-70 in about 20 mins prob,  and overall its very fast considering the xp nerf.  I wasn't trying to say there's no other way but if you want to save yourself a lot of time, it'd benefit to make a bard and shaman if you want to ROA.

how do you get 4 V's on weps. It wont let me put 2 in my 3.0.

I think the point he's trying to make is more along the lines of the visceral gratification some people get from reporting, or at least appear to get.

I've seen people gloat over wanting to get someone banned or want to wait until they were fully geared so it would "hurt more".

Although I think he went about stating his opinion in a rather crude way, I can see his point of view. It seems at some times people take too much pleasure in what they think is going to ruin someones day. In a way it seems he is saying it has gone beyond policing to seeing how much you can try and f' someone over due to something that may or may not have little to no true impact on ones gaming experience.

Rules are rules I agree.  And I personally don't have a problem with the rules or following them.

But I do see his point. Although, as I said, he went about it in a very poor manner. Some people tend to take pride in being the cop that writes tickets for jaywalking. I can understand wanting to report someone for training, KS'ing or even perhaps just completely distasteful names. I wouldn't report it seeing as it doesn't really bother me, but I can understand reporting someone named "Botched Abortion" or something, but the constant call for BAN BAN BAN makes it seem a bit eccentric. I could see a name change, character deletion, suspension or combination of any of the above. But the instant resort to BAN is, what I believe invoked so much emotion from him.

Well it appears he is more elegant with his wording than i was but this is exactly what I was trying to get accross.  It just wears me out to come on the forums and find WHOLE ENTIRE sections on people just trying to get people banned. 
As far as following the rules?  I am still playing on the server, don't have near the ammount of gear some of you have, but I do alright.  I obviously follow the rules.  And YES I have e-mailed hunter once about a guy that was continuously just training the hell out of a custom zone taking everything from everyone else.  Took the appropriate screen shots/fraps and it was taken care of......
I didn't come on the forums and blast his reputation by spewing my opinion or bringing the fact that maybe he was having a bad da yand just wanted to kill shit.  All i see on here is "Person X" stole my shit what a liar, then "Person Y" I didn't steal anything he's the liar blah blah
Then people form their warped opinions off poorly based facts. 

This is just a breeding ground for name slander and ill informed people, why not just take your fraps/screen shot and send it to Hunter? 
Does "self policing server" also mean you bitch and moan and run someones name thru the dirt that makes a mistake? 
Oh does "self policing server" also mean that EVERY OTHER SENTENCE out of your mouth is "Oh so yuo have a problem with Hunters rules then good bye"
jeez

Word of advice. Just stop with posts like these. You are not going to convince anyone you are right or to see your view point. Trust me. It is futile to try. I mean if you want to rant this is the place to do it, knock yourself out. But if you truly think you are going to get people to side with you once their mind is made up, it isnt going to happen.


Just a friendly piece of advice. Do with it as you will.

I think the point he's trying to make is more along the lines of the visceral gratification some people get from reporting, or at least appear to get.

I've seen people gloat over wanting to get someone banned or want to wait until they were fully geared so it would "hurt more".

Although I think he went about stating his opinion in a rather crude way, I can see his point of view. It seems at some times people take too much pleasure in what they think is going to ruin someones day. In a way it seems he is saying it has gone beyond policing to seeing how much you can try and f' someone over due to something that may or may not have little to no true impact on ones gaming experience.

Rules are rules I agree.  And I personally don't have a problem with the rules or following them.

But I do see his point. Although, as I said, he went about it in a very poor manner. Some people tend to take pride in being the cop that writes tickets for jaywalking. I can understand wanting to report someone for training, KS'ing or even perhaps just completely distasteful names. I wouldn't report it seeing as it doesn't really bother me, but I can understand reporting someone named "Botched Abortion" or something, but the constant call for BAN BAN BAN makes it seem a bit eccentric. I could see a name change, character deletion, suspension or combination of any of the above. But the instant resort to BAN is, what I believe invoked so much emotion from him.

I memorized the order to the tune of the national anthem.

I really hate to necro a thread, but that was just too funny. I found myself singing those names to the Tune of the national anthem. It totally works untill you get to the last two... i forced sand monster in there...

AHA!!! That was it! Scorpius2k!! Yes sir that was it.


And yes i remember can o' whoopass. Looked like a bucket of chutney.

lol, perhaps! =)

Sorry about the poor quality of my OP. I was posting from my Android and I was at a bar. (how sad, at a bar drinking thinking of EQ). In any case, it seems the need for two pallies for the proc heal to be useful is a common trend. I think the reason my SK was much more less maint, is having the self heals and the pet also wielding fiery.

I suppose in a way I was wanting to break free of the double pally trend while maintaining the ease of healing that I experienced w/ the SK/Pally comp. I think I'm going to go with what I enjoy most, and so far Ive enjoyed SK much more.

Should the time come I absolutely NEED a warrior, my Sk and the rest of the group will be such that I can PL him fairly quickly.


Ty for all the responses.

So I got a set up of war..clr..pal..brd...rog...i hear war tanking is the way to go...i went from sk to war....both were bot/semi pot geared...i found sk was waaaaay waaay less maintinance than war...i was 3 boxing pot bosses with sk n bard...although I found some trash on the swamp military quarters difficult to manage....so I rolled a pala too....but now I got the new setup I spoke of...and I'm noticing mobs goin down a wee bat faster but I'm constanty having to group hot and sintle heal the war....does.the war really shinelater because so far I'm finding he sk wayy wayy more low maintinance

definition of swarm is that more then 10?

Be carefull double edged question!!

If he was in a private/guild instance, the swarm could be 100mobs and it doesn't break any rules Per se.

I played around with EQemu way back when DoDH first came out. I remember a server similar to this one where you could get epics from an NPC. The NPC was "Leetzor frog of Leetness". Does anyone remember that server? Was it this one? It's been so long I don't even remember.

I would prefer a horseshoes pit set up with gnomes as the post. Perhaps some spiked jumjum juice.