You do not have to buy the items. If someone else can camp it, so can you. I have camped them several times myself. I have never had to wait days and days to get a camp. I walk up, there is usually 1 or 2 people in front of me so I wait.

You asked how a normal person progresses through the server? You camp the items. It's going to take time. Everquest has always been about time sinks. To say that the items are unattainable because someone is always camping them is a redundant statement in itself.

Ok, thanks Xiggie.  I guess I was picturing a super long wait for the camps because people camping the items to sell.  It doesn't sound too bad to me if you don't have to wait a long time.

I see all these people saying that the items are used like currency.  So first I have to buy all my items that are camped always to get myself in the CG/FG.  Then if I want Qvic I have to buy more sets for someone else to kill Qvic for me.  I really don't understand this system.  What if you are new to the server and are not rich in-game and just want to be able to go get your items to join CG/FG?

I'm not trying to be argumentative here, just asking a serious question.  What do normal newbies do to progress normally?

My play-style is to NOT buy anything from other players I can get myself.  To me, playing the game, ie.. going and getting the items I need, is what it is all about.  Whatever solution you come up with, don't make it so the preferred way of getting the items is to buy from someone else.

Dont want to interact with people, be a part of the economy, etc...  go play a single player RPG. Seriously, wtf is the point in even playing here if you dont want the feeling of competition and accomplishment? You work hard for gear, it shows... not only that you are "uber" but also better than the ones who complain about why things are so hard and its "such a bottle neck to actually compete for items". Give me a break, quit EQ and go play something easy mode.

If you have to make them lore or no-trade, so be it.  Also, make it against the Rules of Conduct to sell no-drop items.  That way those of us who want to PLAY THE GAME can have fun going down and getting our items.  The CG/FG items in particular are part of almost a required progression on this server, so it is very lucrative for those people who are camping them 24/7.  That in itself should be your answer as to why these need to be no-drop.

Against the rules to camp an item? Dude, stop talking. You sound like a stupid noob. If i can make money selling loot rights to something I CAMPED MYSELF then who's to say i shouldn't? just because you'd get butt hurt that im taking advantage what i am camping, making a profit on top of it all, I should stop.... Right....

Hello Reed, you need to calm down for one thing, and perhaps re-read my post, I said nothing about not interacting with other players or suppressing an economy, you are rather harsh with your reply.  Let me phrase my statement in another way,  I like to adventure to get my gear and items, not buy my gear and items from other players.  It is just a play-style.  Your reply does not even look like you read what I actually said.

I also did not say to make it against the rules to camp an item.   I was simply putting out my ideas to alleviate the problem.

 Perhaps you need a nap or something, you are very cranky (and rude).

I didn't mean to imply everyone is greedy, my apologies.   Also, I do like the idea of placing these items as random drops in zones, that would be a good solution as well.

My play-style is to NOT buy anything from other players I can get myself.  To me, playing the game, ie.. going and getting the items I need, is what it is all about.  Whatever solution you come up with, don't make it so the preferred way of getting the items is to buy from someone else.

If you have to make them lore or no-trade, so be it.  Also, make it against the Rules of Conduct to sell no-drop items.  That way those of us who want to PLAY THE GAME can have fun going down and getting our items.  The CG/FG items in particular are part of almost a required progression on this server, so it is very lucrative for those people who are camping them 24/7.  That in itself should be your answer as to why these need to be no-drop.

I would imagine that a majority of the people who have selected the "no" option are those people who like to camp and sell REQUIRED items to other people, mostly new people, who do not even have the option to be able to play properly because of the way things are now.

Thanks