phew i almost went outside was a close call

glad you are with us. still important to get all your vaccines even though you had severe disease to stay out of the hospital.

event was awesome and rewards are great. appreciate all the hard work put in. wondering if it is possible to maybe add a preview picture to the link as well as text that says “absolutely sure you want 2hs/1hb whatever” similar to bulk roa turn in. People are already making mistakes and lag/toggling between screens could cause other issues. If there was some kind of additional barrier i think it would really save headaches and frustration for players and gm alike.

i would strongly recommend adding a rogue when you’re comfortable with 5. for your 6th i’d do monk or a second rogue. classes and items are being balanced currently but a lot of this is for the end game spells and items.
 by the time you get to tier 5 i would reassess and see if you are then ready to box 9-12. you don’t have to box that many and might seem overwhelming right now considering you’re just starting but you’ll catch on quickly. check out sarthin videos and see how he boxes his 40 characters it’s really not that hard.

there’s plenty of antisocial people that play here and say weird things from time to time. he apologized later.

spell damage from uw sword and 2x ns12 crates offhand outweighs uw12 axe from what i’ve seen. with deeper mobs the spell damage will have more dps weight. uc4 further augments that spell dmg. maybe ranger nukes will be buffed at some point too.

they are hard to kill for sure and if had slight dmg nerf i wouldn’t be opposed. Some things that might help if you are not already doing - save furious gloves/sword/disc for dragons, use skin like drake on tank when healing debuff up, cast vie on tank from cleric, use sk defensive clicky, have shaman melee for epic debuff or use tserrina whip debuff. LOS healers so they don’t get hit with debuff.

shamans receive earring of brutal ages (melee earring) by default from keeper of ages. donno if intentional.

ideas for balancing
brawlers charm- nerf damage modifiers.
augments - increase damage firestrike and ninjastrike augment
Monks - add flying kick damage modifier to UW fist
Rangers - increase gale force damage (nuke)
Zerkers - increase epic damage proc and ae damage
Shadowknight - allow call of the void spell damage to stack with uc, earring.
Shaman - allow mana necklace to be used, adjust kraken damage.
Bard - adjust tempest blade.
Necromancer - allow beauty from pain focus ( on HW earring blazing ear protector of planking and rallos event earring ) to stack with uc, earring, mana necklace for dots.

Hello! Sarthin was kind enough to parse all classes with different gear setups to allow for current class comparison. Details of all his logs are reported in discord. I wanted to post them on the forums to allow for discussion on comparison and for players to present ideas for adjustments.

time = time in seconds during which DPS was assessed

Per sarthin:
Checking the DPS changes when adding and removing various gear. Doing Dummy in FG with max raid buffs on, including Zerk aura and Auspice, but no Bard epic 10 song or Fist of Wu/Cry Havoc except on the classes that cast them. No debuffs like Amplify Vuln. or Drop all defenses were added on dummy, nor any discs or AA abilities. Doing just over 4 minute parses.

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WIZARD
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Wizard with max gear doing melee dmg with UW12 while rotating VP Wand and Dimur's DD:

time 250sec
DPS 33,731,774
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All items/buffs max except removed EoMA buff:

time 255s
DPS 26,197,908
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All items/buffs max except removed UC4:

time 250s
DPS 17,369,596
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All items/buffs max except removed Mana Necklace

time 257s
DPS 32,780,678
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All items/buff max except character not melee attacking

time 252s
DPS 26,294,094
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Wizard with max gear doing melee dmg with UW12 while rotating VP wand and Dimur's DD. Also added Kraken 3 and bard songs: Ancient Call of Power & Tempest Blade V:

time 253s
DPS 33,038,689
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ROGUE
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Rogue with max gear using UW 12 dagger and Cratos blade with 2x NS12 augments autoattack and backstab:

time 263s
DPS 40,049,124
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Switching UC4 with brawlers rank 50:

time 249s
DPS 38,284,243
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All items/buffs except removed EoBA:

time 332s
DPS 32,676,462
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All items/buffs except switched UW12 dagger with Sleeper Point Dagger.

time 259s
DPS 35,497,219
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MONK
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Monk with max gear, using UW12 1 handed SWORD & T10 fist with 2x NS12. Buffs include crab fu and fist of wu:

time 255s
DPS 21,929,449
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All items/buffs except removed UC4:

time 249s
DPS 15,763,707
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All items/buffs except removed EoBA:

time 253s
DPS 16,967,914
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All items/buffs, but switched UW12 1hs for UW12 mace (1hb):

time 252s
DPS 19,264,277
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All items/buffs, but using UW12 axe:

time 251s
DPS 19,640,395
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BERSERKER
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Zerk with max gear using UW12 2h axe. Full buffs include Cry Havoc and Aura of Rage as well as Over Raided Zerker Haste and Pincer Attack:

time 252s
DPS 16,999,279
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All items/buffs, but removed UC4:

time 256s
DPS 14,283,627
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All items/buffs, but removed EoBA:

time 258s
DPS 11,960,117
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RANGER
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Ranger with max gear using UW12 1h sword and Cratos w/ 2x NS12. Full buffs include Aura of Rage, Auspice, Secrets' Secret Ranger Secret:

time 251s
DPS 18,562,012
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All items/buffs, but doing /autofire with VP bow/arrows only, no melee:

time 254s
DPS 4,148,506
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BARD
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Bard with max gear, using UW12 1h sword and cratos blade with 2x NS12. Full buffs include Auspice, Aura of Rage, Ancient: CoP and Tempest Blade V:

time 249s
DPS 15,179,329
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ENCHANTER
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Enchanter with max gear, using UW12 2h sword. Full buffs including Gift of Force, Aura of Rage and Auspice. Rotating Shylo's Bolt of Doom IV and VP wand while doing melee DPS:

time 248s
DPS 28,369,056
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Enchanter with max gear, using UW12 2h sword. Full buffs including Gift of Force, Aura of Rage and Auspice. Rotating Shylo's Bolt of Doom IV and VP wand while doing melee DPS. Pet added as well:

time 257s
DPS 29,538,388
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MAGE
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Mage with max gear, using UW12 2h sword. Full buffs including Aura of Rage and Auspice. Rotating Shylo's Bolt of Doom IV, Malos Malignance IV and VP wand while doing melee DPS and Pet DPS:

time 264s
DPS 28,915,409
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NECROMANCER
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Necromancer with max gear, using UW12 2h sword. Full buffs including Aura of Rage, Avatar of Undeath II and Auspice. Rotating Death IV and VP wand, while doing melee DPS and Pet DPS:

time 234s
DPS 22,582,313
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BEASTLORD
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Beastlord with max gear, using UW12 1h sword and T10 fist w/ 2x NS12 augs. Full buffs includes Auspice and Aura of Rage. Doing melee DPS and Pet DPS:

time 263s
DPS 15,945,055
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during this attempt there was so much damage the server crashed.

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Same setup as above, but added casting of Vicious Ice V:

time 255s
DPS 17,011,220
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WARRIOR
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Warrior with max gear using UW12 2h axe. Full buffs including Aura of Rage and Auspice, doing regular melee auto attacks:

time 248s
DPS 18,658,774
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PALADIN
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Paladin with max gear using UW12 2h axe. Full buffs include Aura of Rage, Crusader Fury III and Auspice doing regular melee auto attacks:

time 252s
DPS 12,861,723
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DRUID
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Maxed out druid doing melee damage and VP wand click. Full buffs including Form of the Werewolf, Aura of Rage, Auspice and EoMA buff. Using UW12 2h axe for melee:

time 241s
DPS 18,541,045
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SHAMAN
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Maxed out Shaman with UW12 2h axe doing melee damage, rotating ancestral grudge on cooldown, and rotating VP wand. Grudge was clicked off after 20seconds as this testing was done in Fighters guild:

time 238s
DPS 14,582,137
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SHADOWKNIGHT
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Maxed out SK with UW12 Two Handed Axe and offensive augment doing auto melee only. Full buffs include Auspice, Aura of Rage, Armor of the Cursed and Call of the Void

time 245s
DPS 18,886,630
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CLERIC
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Maxed out cleric doing UW12 axe melee damage, full buffs + aura of rage and auspice:

time 249s
DPS 5,585,507
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RAID DPS with and without certain buffs
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First is control where all chars use offensive skills with the exception of Clerics. Buffs are self/raid sustainable buffs including wings, fist of wu, and cry havoc. Malos Malignance IV, Drop all defenses, and Amplify vulnerability are also on target. Bard twisting Ancient:Call of Power and Tempest Blade V, but no Epic 10 click. No pets are using in the fight. Fight duration ~10 minutes

Raid setup: 5x warriors, 5x paladin, 3x clerics, 1x druid, 1x shaman, 1x ranger, 1x bard, 1x beastlord, 4x monk, 4x zerkers, 5x rogues, 4x wizards, 1x mage, 1x enchanter, 2x necromancers, 1x shadowknight.

time 640s
DPS 791,824,201

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MGB Auspice of hunter added to raid. (+30mil dps to this raid):

time 609s
DPS 828,382,284
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Activated Glyph of Destruction on all characters. (+8mil dps to this raid):

time 606s
DPS 799,386,502
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Ancestral Grudge utilized with MGB AA then mask + Ancestral grudge afterwards. (200 sec total buff uptime):

time 608s
DPS 798,131,205
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Class summary using above logs:

Listing classes in descending order with their best DPS result approx. on a single target with low armor class. Bear in mind that on targets with higher armor class, melee damage tends to be weaker while spell damage normally stays around the same.


Rogue: 40million
Wizard: 34 million
Mage: 29 million
Enchanter: 29 million
Necromancer: 22.5 million
Monk: 22 million
Shadowknight: 19 million
Warrior: 18.5 million
Ranger: 18.5 million
Druid: 18.5 million
Berserker: 17 million
Beastlord: 17 million (16.5 if you dont count pet)
Bard: 15 million
Shaman: 14.5 million
Paladin: 13 million
Cleric: 5.5 million
tankus: 3 dps

event was pretty bad ass. i was super pumped irl afterwards lol. really nice work. enjoyed kiting the adds and tmax.

shaman not able to use mana neck. i donno if intentional or was overlooked.

thanks draca xoxo

call of the void rank 1-5 (sk spell) and ultimate charm spell damage dont stack.

VP:
dokshadow losing hp every hit w/ painfully gorgeous, uc1 and call of the void V - seems to occur more often when increased frequency of crits.
UW12 dagger on rogue backstab not working. ST dagger still higher dmg.