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« on: February 23, 2011, 10:25:08 pm »
Would be sweet for the PVPers on here if there was a zone which had the entire parameters as an arena flag or something. something fun to fight in that doesnt have anything going on yet but has a good setup for such things. some old zones that had awesome pvp battles from the old zeks servers were HHK, PoTactics, The Hole(classic), heck CS home would be something fun if that were possible!
could make another Guild like the crafters, fighters, casters guilds for some added benefit for 100 or 1000 pvp kills. get a little clicky out of it or something.

EDIT- for people who would exploit by chain dying put some sort of lockout on zone if they die. another zone that would be cool was the graveyard from POK when corpses would rot out after a week
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« Reply #1 on: February 24, 2011, 07:29:06 am »
Shadowrest! That would be pretty awesome.
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« Reply #2 on: February 24, 2011, 08:37:17 am »
I loooooooove pvp. I was on VZ, then on SZ when it opened. And though Sullon was a cesspool of the worst dregs in EQ it was a blast to play on if you liked hardcore no rules servers. EZ server though, isnt even remotely balanced for pvp. the class spread here is worse then on live. (just think wizards or rogues one rounding folks basically). Also, you would have to find a way to disable MQ in that zone only. Hunting people with a map that shows you right where they are is kind of boring.  Any of the zones, big zones, would do. Sro (unlikely with terror in there) the commons, kith. Those were some of the sites of the huge pvp battles back in the day due to proximity. then they came out with the bizaar and POK and everyone just camped in there  Sad

Great idea though if it would be viable.
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« Reply #3 on: February 24, 2011, 10:00:35 am »
Agreeing with Cafi. The class-balance is not suited for pvp at all, we'd just have wizzys standing on unreachable places oneshotting people et cetera.

And if there'd be some point count system, what stops couple guys from agreeing to kill each other's box armies X amount of times to achieve reward Y?
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« Reply #4 on: February 24, 2011, 11:30:06 am »
Ok ok just forget the point system or rewards for the battles that would be a nightmare to police. Lets just get a zone or two which is flagged for PVP. This is a box server, dueling is boring lets get some mass pvp. I think a larger zone than just the arena would be great. How about Walls of slaughter or heck lets make all pop zones that are non custom pvp! Who uses them anyway?

I don't like the idea of any rewards though. This will just increase the drama meter on the board/server. Maybe Hunter could just do some live events here and there and give away stuff to the winners. Like they use to do on Storm hammer.

Good thoughts though. I've been talking about this idea with my guildies for a bit, I'm glad you posted it!

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« Reply #5 on: February 24, 2011, 01:35:05 pm »
Haven't read the post really. But how about an alt progression quest that is based in all pvp custom zones?
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« Reply #6 on: February 24, 2011, 07:29:01 pm »
I'm still standing by pvp for fun not progression. If you want something for your efforts award 10k per kill of a toon. Limit to 10k per toon killed per hour. So you cant chain kill a character and have all the monies in the worldz.

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« Reply #7 on: February 24, 2011, 08:59:28 pm »
Now I like that idea too. Kills and rewards. Like taking an ear in Diablo. But now you get to turn it in for a reward lol.
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« Reply #8 on: February 25, 2011, 03:09:29 am »
pvp for fun!

not everything here needs to surround progression or reward. Honestly Id like the chance to kill some of you... in eq or something....
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« Reply #9 on: February 25, 2011, 04:09:47 am »
Enchanter/wizard combo kills everything.

Mez sticks in pvp. Mez mez mez and line them up for the railgun.

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« Reply #10 on: February 25, 2011, 04:14:14 am »
You almost make it sound like nothing can be resisted in terms of spells cast on another player.

Granted I havent done any PVP in forever but I would expect some resists or something, but like i said its been forever.

Ill be waiting to see if this ever comes into being
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« Reply #11 on: February 25, 2011, 06:46:59 am »
Quote from: Fabdibikya on February 25, 2011, 04:09:47 am
Enchanter/wizard combo kills everything.

Mez sticks in pvp. Mez mez mez and line them up for the railgun.

-Clevitsj

Then be like PEW PEW
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« Reply #12 on: February 25, 2011, 10:27:10 am »
Thats another problem, resist for the casters. Most people with tier gear will have max resist (with aa etc) of 500. If your mez is unresistable and your nuke is you will stand around with a mezzed PC and some poor wizard with a 40k mana well trying to off someone.

Or, like you just said it will be a turkey shoot. That wiz rain spell in PVP would be horrendous, not counting the AE one. You could take out groups of people.

I love the idea mind you. it wouldnt bother me any of they turned all the zones into PVP zones. More so because if you dont like it you can get a guild instance to escape. However, this would effectively run off new comers to the server getting griefed.

Another idea, kunark and velious both had huge zones that would be great for pvp hunting or mass pvp. Make all the mobs in the zone KOS and give them appropriate hps and damage so you cant just waltz through the zones, and put in a reward/punishment (for lack of a better term) system. The reason Im for more of the punishment system (coin loot, loss of exp what ever) is it makes people fight harder if you have something to lose, instead of just some random points to gain. Put in a level cap for the zones (mid level like 30-50) up to the high level of 70 only zone etc for fairness. I actually dont mind and really like no limit full pvp but most people cant stomach that.

again though, it would require balancing the classes closer for pvp, and disabling MQ.
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« Reply #13 on: February 25, 2011, 10:40:05 am »
Adding any sort of reward/punishment system to PvP is not going to make anyone fight harder. It's just gonna make more people run to the forums and complain that X class is overpowered and needs to be nerfed.

I can hear it now... "OMFG HUNTER MY CLERIC CAN'T PVP GIVE ME A PBAOE FOR 100K SO I CAN BE 'VIABLE' IN PVP!" and "OMFG HUNTER SKS CAN KILL EVERYONE WITHOUT GETTING HURT BECAUSE OF THEIR EPIC PROCS! NERF NERF NERF!"


Everquest (from my experience) was never a huge PvP game. It's always been the definition of PvE to me. Creating a few zones, or changing current ones, so that they're used for PvP would be alright as long as:

A) There is no reward or punishment. This will only lead to griefing, complaining, and probably nerfs.
B) It does not effect other players' gameplay. Do not extend PvP into public zones that are frequently used. I would hate to be farming my alt gear in PoD/Qvic/Tacvi/etc... and have some T5 asshole come stomp all over me, just because he has the option to. Now, when you're farming for your CG/FG, you can just kill the person camping it and take over? That's gonna go over well.
C) Special instances be created of zones for the sole purpose of PvP (instead of making all zones pvp). Just remove all the mobs from Qvic and watch it become a battleground extravaganza.


In truth, the arena is more than enough PvP for me. I don't understand why we're trying to turn EZ Server into WoW.
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« Reply #14 on: February 25, 2011, 10:59:13 am »
Potime pvp waypoint. Zone into empty potime instance, in the dragon slave spot (no pvp able)
Several teleporters in the circle port you to one of the niches in the actual zone.]

Done!
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