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« Reply #15 on: December 07, 2015, 12:06:09 pm »

And honestly....I cant see why managing gear for boxes would be difficult. Once you get to the point that you need to get T4 gear or later you're gonna get enough rots to gear up another team anyway, just trying to get all the armor/items for one character. In all honesty gearing up 12 boxes isnt much harder than gearing up 1....and often takes a lot less time.
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« Reply #16 on: December 08, 2015, 02:30:26 pm »

Finished up 2.0/fighters guild this morning, things are going pretty smoothly.  The 2.0 lifetap is really not all that amazing though, still needing to use potions/CH book while doing ldon floor 6.  probably best to work on sorc charm and finish 2.5 next.  

Honestly one thing that might entirely derail this as a possibility is lack of cures.  Without the donation cure item I'm not sure how its going to be possible later on.  Anyway, so far so good!
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« Reply #17 on: December 08, 2015, 03:15:18 pm »

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Honestly one thing that might entirely derail this as a possibility is lack of cures.  Without the donation cure item I'm not sure how its going to be possible later on.

And this is exactly what made the SK previously mentioned give up soloing once he hit T1/2. With single slots available he wasnt able to realistically get resists high enough to be able to survive PoDrags solo. So far my biggest PITA has been dispells and lack of DPS on the SK I am trying....but still working it.
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« Reply #18 on: December 09, 2015, 03:31:56 pm »

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Honestly one thing that might entirely derail this as a possibility is lack of cures.  Without the donation cure item I'm not sure how its going to be possible later on.

And this is exactly what made the SK previously mentioned give up soloing once he hit T1/2. With single slots available he wasnt able to realistically get resists high enough to be able to survive PoDrags solo. So far my biggest PITA has been dispells and lack of DPS on the SK I am trying....but still working it.
that's why i say goto tofs and farm up resist augs. especially now with the aug slot changes.
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« Reply #19 on: April 05, 2017, 09:04:37 pm »

Hi started on EZ back in 2010 with Big Mac with Fries (he was a pally but could never finish off BoT mobs) and then grouped with a SK, who basically lawnmowered through BoT.  I thought heck I need to change over to be able to finish.  I played all the way through POD and found that I could not get through T2 boss mobs as the poison coupled with hard hits stopped me in my tracks T1 full armor with Epic 3.0.  At that point I switched over to boxing with a bard and cleric.  I had considerable help to get me to T4 in HOH but have now gone back and have a group of support characters.  my SK is still my main at least for the time being and may have to bring on a Warrior but trying to see how far my SK can go as the main.
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« Reply #20 on: April 06, 2017, 11:03:46 am »

You'll be able to go far, but you're losing a tremendous amount of efficiency due to the loss in tanking ability.  You'll take 50 hours to do what a warrior tank group can do in 20-30.  You'll probably have it rough in Loping Plains with the respawn time and you'll be pulling small in ToV.  T10 will break you in half. 
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« Reply #21 on: April 06, 2017, 04:33:09 pm »

First, can it be done? yes

Second, can it be fun? yes

Third, is it advised? no

Recent changes to the Shadowknight and Paladin classes (last year) brought both classes closer to a true tanking role, however neither matches the tanking ability of the Warrior.

I was heavily involved in the changes made to both classes and did quite a bit of comparison testing, what I found is that the changes basically made Shadowknights a great dps tank (with all the sub quest gear) and it made the Paladin a great healing tank (with all the sub quest gear). What the changes did not do is make either class interchangeable with the Warrior.

I think you find that over time the SK and Pally class start to pale in tanking ability to the Warrior and you will probably find yourself wanting to make/gear up a Warrior for tanking. I would advise you make that Warrior now to save yourself time and grief later on.

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« Reply #22 on: April 06, 2017, 06:54:23 pm »

I was heavily involved in the changes made to both classes and did quite a bit of comparison testing, what I found is that the changes basically made Shadowknights a great dps tank

I heard a rumor the other day the a SK with a UW actually hangs near the top of the list for DPS.

Remember when hate did all that DPS parsing but didnt do any for UWs? you should do some DPS parsing for each class with UWs Smiley

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« Reply #23 on: April 06, 2017, 09:37:16 pm »

The Shadowknight I used had every quest item maxed and he did a ton of DPS.

The spells and combat skills allowed him to do a lot of DPS, so much so that he ripped aggro off the tank frequently.

It's a great class, brings a lot to the table for a team, but I just don't think the SK or the Pally is the main tank for later tiers.
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« Reply #24 on: April 07, 2017, 03:46:43 pm »

alot of time i read DPS but i dont had any idea where i can watch it or how i can watch it ... exist there an directly viewin tool window ingame addon or something ?
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« Reply #25 on: April 07, 2017, 06:15:36 pm »

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« Reply #26 on: April 08, 2017, 09:16:28 pm »

Back in the day I made it quite far with a SK, Whatzizname. Although this was in the days when T4 was the end all beat all and we spent most of the time farming and combining rocks and wait for help in T4. I group a lot with other guys who cam up with me But it was enjoyable to do because it was a lot like playing EQ. When I was in a guild I made it to T5 with a lot of help but it was doable after awhile. Today I could not see anyone making it to T4 without help.
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« Reply #27 on: April 17, 2017, 01:11:40 pm »

one thing i would like to see is the shadowknight and the pally config  edited so that they have the ability to dual weld. i dont know if it would interest many out there, but i personally would like to see that a possibility. you could take the warrior configs and add them to the pally/sk then those two classes would be able to match and possibly out rank the warrior classes.
just my 2 cents on the matter.
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« Reply #28 on: April 17, 2017, 02:46:33 pm »

one thing i would like to see is the shadowknight and the pally config  edited so that they have the ability to dual weld. i dont know if it would interest many out there, but i personally would like to see that a possibility. you could take the warrior configs and add them to the pally/sk then those two classes would be able to match and possibly out rank the warrior classes.
just my 2 cents on the matter.

I honestly don't see this happening as it would have very far and wide implications for all 3 classes. I think the warrior class as the main tank will always remain, but I could be wrong, time can judge that.
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« Reply #29 on: April 18, 2017, 11:24:05 pm »

one thing i would like to see is the shadowknight and the pally config  edited so that they have the ability to dual weld. i dont know if it would interest many out there, but i personally would like to see that a possibility. you could take the warrior configs and add them to the pally/sk then those two classes would be able to match and possibly out rank the warrior classes.
just my 2 cents on the matter.

I honestly don't see this happening as it would have very far and wide implications for all 3 classes. I think the warrior class as the main tank will always remain, but I could be wrong, time can judge that.
I would rather see Shield Specialist work for pally/sk but it would probably need to be tuned a bit because of UW.
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