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[Hunter]

Also, is this dmg is single target DD, correct? at least im assuming it is

Might be AoE rang 100 I think, but yes, its DD, not DoT. Re-download current spell file 062410b if you haven't already.

1.0 = 100 dmg /w small group heal
1.5 = 500 dmg /w small group heal
2.0 = 1000 dmg /w small group heal
2.5 = 2000 dmg /w 1000-1300 Group Heal
3.0 = 4000 dmg /w 2250-2950 Group Heal
4.0 = 6000 dmg /w 5000-5700 Group Heal

This is how I would retune the paladin epic line.  This will bring there DPS up a smidge while slightly nerfing their group heal a touch until they get their 4.0.  Crab has seen everything I have seen and can post his thoughts.

From the test results, this sounds good. I'll try to get those edits in before the next reboot. Thanks for testing. PPM, DPS, and HPS are all good to know for the Paladin Epics. Not bad for a first pass.

Hope to see more Paladins in game, at least more than Warriors now. =)

[Hunter]

Does 1hs vs 2hs affect anything? Or same proc rate?

You can turn in your 2handed Epic for a 1handed version so you can use a shield.

[yellowbird]

I was actually thinking about testing that.  Also, would it be an option to make the turn in 1hs->2hs->shield?  I have some ideas for a shield that might help Paladins some.

Also, you have an email in your inbox.

[Reed]

I was actually thinking about testing that.  Also, would it be an option to make the turn in 1hs->2hs->shield?  I have some ideas for a shield that might help Paladins some.

Also, you have an email in your inbox.

Hmm... Paladin Epic Shield? Interesting idea Yellow

[Hunter]

Power went out all day today, and I didn't get a chance to update the proc dmg/heal amount yet.

Good idea on shield. Yeah, I could have Paladins trade their weapon for a shield. Of course the SK would demand the same.

[Smoka]

Power went out all day today, and I didn't get a chance to update the proc dmg/heal amount yet.

Good idea on shield. Yeah, I could have Paladins trade their weapon for a shield. Of course the SK would demand the same.

Not sure if I would demand that. Beg, kick, scream, plead, cry maybe, but never demand!

[PORTIS]

SK shield epic, nice idea:) Clicky grp cast, limited time returns % of dam created in health. This way clerics dont get ruled out because they would not do dam so heals would still be needed.

[Thyl]

As nice as all of this is these numbers make my 20 Oracle Druid cry 

1.667K regen per sec, no chance for crits, no dps, and much more cumbersome to maintain on group.  I hope Reed's suggestion for group buff might at least be considered.

[Reed]

Power went out all day today, and I didn't get a chance to update the proc dmg/heal amount yet.

Good idea on shield. Yeah, I could have Paladins trade their weapon for a shield. Of course the SK would demand the same.

Wouldn't be to hard to make a shield with more or less same exact stats, different name... and if clicky is included, different clicky. What graphic to use would be hardest part =p

[Bikaf]

i can just imagine a SK shield that right clicked focus of healing so their taps landed even better!

[barrettd04]

Give us a cooler/beefier pet(not to the tune of bst/mage, but at least usable), or make my mana pool do something other than just sit there looking pretty.  Only spell I use is dread gaze, which is sad.

[Smoka]

Going to split off and make another thread so we stop deterring from the original reason that Hunter made this one. For the Pallies.

[Crabthewall]

This is where it starts getting uglier. People will start going, well what about my class... Enchanters/Necros/Sk/Wizzie/Druid/etc.... The reality is there are plenty of classes that just aren't good classes. If you don't like a classes current abilities/skills the best choice is simply not to play that class and play one who's abilities you do like.

[Reed]

Can-of-Worms

[Eliseus]

I think over time many classes will see good days and bad days, think its time for paladin to shine for a little

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