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« on: October 07, 2016, 11:51:39 am »
Thinking about getting one of these: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147373&cm_re=ssd_desktop-_-20-147-373-_-Product

any idea if it would help with lag running 18 toons?  I can run 12 fine but when I try to run 18 I have toons lagging behind when I hit my follow button and they just act stupid...so I have 6 toons sitting on the sidelines.
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« Reply #1 on: October 07, 2016, 01:11:17 pm »
I run MQ and EZ on its own 40gb SSD and it seems to really help with load speeds...
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« Reply #2 on: October 07, 2016, 01:33:10 pm »
no, that's not going to help with your /stick problems. you need more megahurts.

I had the same problem on an old dual-core (no HT) but not on a more modern quad core+HT. both use Samsung 850 EVOs

also do NOT use mq2fps
it made the stick issues worse... MUCH worse.
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« Reply #3 on: October 07, 2016, 01:51:17 pm »
ok system info (if it helps)

Processor: Intel Core i5-2320 cpu @ 3.00 GHz

Installed memory: 32.0 GB

System type: 64 bit OS (windows 10)

Display adapter: Nvidia GeForce GTX 650 Ti

so is this system to "limited" to run 18 toons?
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« Reply #4 on: October 07, 2016, 02:54:21 pm »
well, that's a 4-core, 4-thread, so no HT, it will look to EQ as 4 cpus.
are you using RoF2? it's pretty good about spreading the load around.

I run 8 toons, on the quad core/8 thread pc, basically each client gets its own "cpu"
you're trying to run 18 clients on 4 "cpus", maybe it's not so good at handling that?
on my dual-core/2 thread, I have the same issues, with only 8 toons (4 toons is fine).

are you using EQplaynice, or any other botting s/w?
are you using mq2fps?

I have the same SSD on both pc's (and the same video card on the dual core actually)
I'm about sure the SSD won't help your issue..

I bought off ebay a quad core cpu to replace the dual core .. haven't installed it yet, but I hope it fixes the lagging behind problem.
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« Reply #5 on: October 07, 2016, 03:12:21 pm »
personally I would look at getting something like this, assuming it will drop in.
not too cheap, but cheaper than upgrading the whole PC ...
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Intel-Core-i7-3770K-3-5GHz-Quad-Core-LGA1155-Desktop-CPU-Processor-/302090163325?hash=item4655fa147d:g:vKsAAOSwNRdX7Dqi
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« Reply #6 on: October 07, 2016, 08:49:11 pm »
are you using RoF2? Yes
are you using EQplaynice, or any other botting s/w?No
are you using mq2fps?No

Just looking for a way to run 18 toons....like I said 12 is fine...thought maybe the SSD with it's faster read/write capability would alleviate any other problems since my system is pretty tight....I have a new mobo that everything is connected to but maybe a new processor would help it...will have to see if anyone who is a computer genius can  shed some light into ways to get 18 toons on one system to work  Undecided
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« Reply #7 on: October 07, 2016, 11:18:35 pm »
I can run 17 accounts with no lag in most zones (not t10, only 15 there, and not t6/9) with a 7 year old garbage computer.

Before installing my SSD it started lagging around 9-10 accounts.

Just from experience, with no computer knowledge. I'd assume you could handle 18 without a problem with ssd.

But that's just my experience.
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« Reply #8 on: October 08, 2016, 07:09:14 am »
Maybe I can try the SSD and if that doesn't do what I need look at upgrading the processor at a later date.  Wink

Will this processor work http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIABRA4UV3683&cm_re=Intel_Core_i7-3770K-_-9SIABRA4UV3683-_-Product
with this mobo http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157436&cm_re=ASRock_z77_1155_motherboard-_-13-157-436-_-Product (that is the mobo I am using) it says can use i7/i5/i3 cpu types
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« Reply #9 on: October 08, 2016, 04:07:09 pm »
Quote from: Orthanos on October 08, 2016, 07:09:14 am
Maybe I can try the SSD and if that doesn't do what I need look at upgrading the processor at a later date.  Wink

Will this processor work http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIABRA4UV3683&cm_re=Intel_Core_i7-3770K-_-9SIABRA4UV3683-_-Product
with this mobo http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157436&cm_re=ASRock_z77_1155_motherboard-_-13-157-436-_-Product (that is the mobo I am using) it says can use i7/i5/i3 cpu types

Yes, they are both socket LGA1155
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« Reply #10 on: October 09, 2016, 10:03:05 am »
Honestly, were I in need of upgrading my system I would wait and see what the new Zen brings to the table. A friend who works for Apple is telling me (without hurting NDA's) that they're "most definitely worth the look". You have to know the guy, but thats like you or me saying, "HEY! BUY THIS!!!" And no, not saying you should buy Apple.....the Zen AMD processor will be available for PC's.....Apple's using them as well.

Prelims are showing as much as a 50% increase in performance over AMD's Excavator design....and 14nm architecture means low power use AND far cooler running temps. The new AM4 socket will mean boards that support DDR4 ram (worth the cost), PCI-E 3.0, new interface architecture, etc....which should by all reports mean a board that should be upgrade ready for years to come.

But again, time will tell.

Now....all that being said, I LOVE my Skylake 6700.....and thats saying a lot. Before this I stayed with AMD because of costs and benefits to gaming.
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« Reply #11 on: October 09, 2016, 10:09:32 am »
Well, Chunka, I am trying not to buy a new mobo and processor....trying to get the most bang for my buck on a system I ONLY use to play EQ on EZ...so not looking at dumping a whole heap of money.  Kiss
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« Reply #12 on: October 09, 2016, 01:49:55 pm »
Just a thought, why not just find a nice laptop or desktop that you can run a group of 6 off of and having them connect to your eqbc? That would alleviate the load on your computer and cost it would take for you to upgrade "certain" parts, you could get a nice computer off of ebay or craigslist.

Years ago I did that and had 24 toons rolling at once. 
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« Reply #13 on: October 09, 2016, 02:11:21 pm »
I gotta agree with that.....talk to Ergg about that one, Ray. He put a few of his boxes on a second, cheap machine and saw some pretty big improvements on play.
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« Reply #14 on: October 09, 2016, 03:48:15 pm »
Yeah he has been telling me about that (getting a second machine) i just want to try to push this one as far as I can.....more of make it a moster kinda thing..... Cool
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