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Akkadius
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« on: December 24, 2018, 01:25:56 pm »

First of all I hope everyone is enjoying time with their families or friends this Holiday

We've been very very busy with doing things for our Holiday and put me sick all day yesterday so that is why we didn't have anything started yesterday

We're about to make our way out the door but I wanted to get something going for you guys in the meantime

For the next few days until an unspecified date time we will have Double EXP / Loot / Credits

Please be safe everyone

Akk and Rent
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« Reply #1 on: December 24, 2018, 01:28:13 pm »

Thanks Akka and Rent enjoy your holidays!!!
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« Reply #2 on: December 24, 2018, 01:39:06 pm »

Thank you very much!! enjoy ur holiday stuffs!!
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« Reply #3 on: December 24, 2018, 02:58:40 pm »

Thanks guys enjoy your holidays
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« Reply #4 on: December 24, 2018, 03:36:54 pm »

Thanks man!

Happy holidays Smiley
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« Reply #5 on: December 24, 2018, 04:08:34 pm »

YES  Grin
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« Reply #6 on: December 24, 2018, 04:31:40 pm »

Thanks, Akka and Rent!

In the spirit of Christmas, suppose p is the probability of a particular item dropping (and it is only allowed to drop once). Then under double loot,

(1-p)^2 is the probability of not getting the item at all,
p^2 is the probability of getting 2 of them, and
2p(1-p) is the probability of getting exactly one of the item.
1-(1-p)^2=1-(1-2p+p^2)=2p-p^2 is the probability of getting at least one of the item.

I don't know if this is popular belief, but notice that neither of the last two probabilities is twice the usual probability of getting the item, which is 2p. Each is very slightly less than 2p, at least if p is small. So double loot is not double the probability. I mean come on, if there used to be a 100% chance, there can't be a 200% chance now.

However, if you run an experiment n times and there is p probability of a success, then the expected number of successes is np. So under normal loot, the expected number of items to drop on the corpse is (1)(p)=p, but under double loot, the expected number per corpse is (2)(p)=2p since the experiment (determining what loot should drop under normal loot) is performed twice. So it's the expected value that doubles, not the probability.

In summary, don't expect twice the chance of dropping. Rather, expect that the total number of items you loot, over a long period of time, should be roughly twice what it ordinarily would be.
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« Reply #7 on: December 24, 2018, 08:03:26 pm »

Double loot instances just double the rolls made against the loot table selection. Like if a  mob has a 100% chance to drop something like a armor pattern, the game makes 2 rolls and drops 2 armor patterns from that mobs 100% drop loot table. It then makes twice the rolls for items like rainbow crystals, essences,plat boxes etc. So if the mob say has 4 possible corpse loot slots in a regular instance, and 1 slot is your 100% drop token/armor pattern/key/master essence etc. You now will get 2 100% drops. The 3 remaining slots in a normal non double loot, will now become 6 loot rolls against whatever the mobs remaining loot tables are.
Example
loot table 1 100% chance to drop item(s) 1a 1b 1c
loot table 2 50% chance to drop a item of type 2a 2b 2c
loot table 3 25% chance to drop a item of type 3a 3b 3c
loot table 4 10% chance to drop a item of type 4a 4b
loot table 5 .000001% to drop a item of type gss or hammer piece  Roll Eyes
loot table 6 15% chance to drop nothing on loot roll

Now you have 6 chances to random against landing on loot table 2-6. Inside each of these loot tables if your roll hits the table, you now make a second random roll to determine which of the items inside the table you receive, with each item inside of the table having its own %.

Example

Roll 1 lands on loot table 2. Now a second roll is made to determine.
2a 50% resist stone
2b 25% plat bag
2c 25% plat box


I have no idea what all that fancy letter math is you wrote but this is how everquest draws from its loot tables.
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« Reply #8 on: December 27, 2018, 08:42:40 am »

Merry Christmas to akka and rent thanks for a fun time appriciate the oodles of hours and ty for the double loots appriciate it
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« Reply #9 on: December 31, 2018, 12:30:38 pm »

Thanks Akka & Rent, hope you and the family had a great Christmas. Thanks for all that you both did for the game this year. May the EZServer players and their family have a great New Year.
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« Reply #10 on: December 31, 2018, 05:15:45 pm »

Happy new year everyone  Grin
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« Reply #11 on: January 01, 2019, 02:23:09 am »

Happy new year everyone!
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