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Title: New server hardware
Post by: Secrets on April 11, 2010, 09:47:13 am
8 aoe attacks + whole sanctus seru zone (783 mobs) = no zone crash, and a lot of loot!

EZ's Server box never felt better!
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Qty (2) Intel® Xeon® processor X5550

Qty (2) Intel® Thermal Solution STS100C

Intel® Server Board S5520HC

Intel® Server Chassis SC5650DPNA with 600Watt Power Supply

Intel® Integrated RAID Module (SROMBSASMR)

Qty (2) Seagate* Cheetah* NS.2 450GB SAS HDD’s (ST3450802SS)

6 GB DDR3 Memory 6x 1GB

Samsung* 22X DVDRW SATA Optical Drive

40GB Intel SSD

Intel Remote Management Module 3

Intel 6 Bay Hot Swap Expander Backplane

Windows 2008 Server R2 Standard

New hardware coming soon.

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Title: Re: New server hardware
Post by: yellowbird on April 11, 2010, 02:29:22 pm
ALL HAIL GM SECRETS!


Title: Re: New server hardware
Post by: Reed on April 11, 2010, 03:06:38 pm
So does this mean, Warriors wont crash zones anymore? cause that would be amazing news to hear


Title: Re: New server hardware
Post by: Sickem on April 11, 2010, 03:08:36 pm
what was servers previous config? I don't remember,would be interesting to compare. Can this lead to bard ddd being multi-mob again? :)


Title: Re: New server hardware
Post by: Hunter on April 11, 2010, 03:13:27 pm
Thanks Secrets for helping me with the install for the EZ Server on our new hardware!

The database is running on a Solid State Drive so the server should be faster than ever.


Title: Re: New server hardware
Post by: OGFemme on April 11, 2010, 04:56:29 pm
So does this mean, Warriors wont crash zones anymore? cause that would be amazing news to hear

Yes, zone crashes still occur with AE's.

Don't believe me? Can send me a /tell in game and I'll gladly show you in PoFire with my Warrior.


Title: Re: New server hardware
Post by: Crabthewall on April 11, 2010, 05:09:38 pm
Femme, please don't spread FUD unless you are sure of your information. I killed 150+ in PoF with my warrior at one shot and hit rampage no issues, zone didn't lag/reboot while the server was under load.

Secrets/Hunter also provided this image which shows Hunter killing every single mob in PoF at the same time without an issue.


Title: Re: New server hardware
Post by: Supreme on April 11, 2010, 05:58:37 pm
Just as a matter of testing i pulled one of the LDONs from entrance to gatekeeper and killed everything without the zone crashing.

ahh very nice!


Title: Re: New server hardware
Post by: Reed on April 11, 2010, 06:34:38 pm
Well this is a good update indeed. Great improvement Secrets and Hunter


Title: Re: New server hardware
Post by: OGFemme on April 11, 2010, 06:52:48 pm
Femme, please don't spread FUD unless you are sure of your information. I killed 150+ in PoF with my warrior at one shot and hit rampage no issues, zone didn't lag/reboot while the server was under load.

Secrets/Hunter also provided this image which shows Hunter killing every single mob in PoF at the same time without an issue.

I'm not saying the new hardware upgrade did nothing. All I'm saying is that the opportunity of crashing a zone is still there.

However, as for T3/T4 - I have no idea why we are still crashing up there. Basher appeared on /w all to be with us, maybe he can shed some light if the server side has any datail/info about it.

I am thinking that when we use #hatelist, it pulls from the server so much info for 24-30 toons to be called up and when multiple players use it at once, it leads to a lock up. Which is why we have so many crashes - mostly around a boss's death.

2 Nights ago in Nexus, I told my guildies in vent that it seems converting a huge amount of coins to copper and moving it to bank quickstyle also crashed the zone. I replicated that 2 more time that night. Tried now and obvious performance upgrades seems to have fixed that.


Title: Re: New server hardware
Post by: OGFemme on April 11, 2010, 07:19:24 pm
FUD? (http://orguild.blogspot.com/2010/04/spreading-fud-according-to-our-1-fanboi.html)

Couldn't upload it here because I'm not an internetz genius

edit: o, that was only like 30 mobs btw... Whisky is weak ;(


Title: Re: New server hardware
Post by: Crabthewall on April 11, 2010, 07:27:32 pm
FUD? (http://orguild.blogspot.com/2010/04/spreading-fud-according-to-our-1-fanboi.html)

Couldn't upload it here because I'm not an internetz genius

edit: o, that was only like 30 mobs btw... Whisky is weak ;(

Sorry I must be missing it, I don't see a zone connect message in those pictures indicating a zone crashed?


Title: Re: New server hardware
Post by: OGFemme on April 11, 2010, 07:31:02 pm
How many times do we hear PoFire crashed over the months but we never see a zone reconnect... Like I said, just pointing out: Crashing a Zone is still possible when over pulling.

I was using Rampage + Aug V x4.
I think the Aug 5 when it kills a bunch of mobs all at once, that's when it causes a zone to hiccup/lockup


Title: Re: New server hardware
Post by: yellowbird on April 11, 2010, 07:35:40 pm
Anytime that a zone connects (zone.exe, statically or dynamically) you get a zone connection message.  If your client crashed then that is a different issue.  Time for a hardware upgrade, broski.  Does Newegg ship to Nicaragua?

Here is the issue.  Whatever you dip shits are doing in T3/T4 to crash it needs to stop time now.  Saying that "oh with XYZ I can still crash PoF" to cloud the issue and direct attention away from your intentional crashes of T3/T4 is childish.


Title: Re: New server hardware
Post by: Crabthewall on April 11, 2010, 07:52:47 pm
How many times do we hear PoFire crashed over the months but we never see a zone reconnect... Like I said, just pointing out: Crashing a Zone is still possible when over pulling.

I was using Rampage + Aug V x4.
I think the Aug 5 when it kills a bunch of mobs all at once, that's when it causes a zone to hiccup/lockup

You are confusing your client crashing with the zone crashing. If a zone crashes you will see a yellow zone message.


Title: Re: New server hardware
Post by: Teehee on April 11, 2010, 08:26:33 pm
Anytime that a zone connects (zone.exe, statically or dynamically) you get a zone connection message.  If your client crashed then that is a different issue.  Time for a hardware upgrade, broski.  Does Newegg ship to Nicaragua?

Here is the issue.  Whatever you dip shits are doing in T3/T4 to crash it needs to stop time now.  Saying that "oh with XYZ I can still crash PoF" to cloud the issue and direct attention away from your intentional crashes of T3/T4 is childish.

You have massive experience in t3/t4 content without ever doing any t3/t4 content.

P.S

We can do t3/t4 content why would we crash the zone at 1%?


Title: Re: New server hardware
Post by: Daggum on April 11, 2010, 08:42:25 pm
Here is the issue.  Whatever you dip shits are doing in T3/T4 to crash it needs to stop time now.  Saying that "oh with XYZ I can still crash PoF" to cloud the issue and direct attention away from your intentional crashes of T3/T4 is childish.

Intentional crashing?  Why would we farm 16 mobs (not counting the yellow con adds) just to crash the zone 1 or 2% from it dying?  We miss out on armor loot, and a chance on spells and non-vis armor.

Here is the issue.  We put in hundreds and hundreds of hours on this content and our gear.  I appreciate that you want to help but you do not have to act like that toward us.  Remember the gear you got was copied from one of us.


Title: Re: New server hardware
Post by: Camric on April 11, 2010, 08:52:13 pm
Anytime that a zone connects (zone.exe, statically or dynamically) you get a zone connection message.  If your client crashed then that is a different issue.  Time for a hardware upgrade, broski.  Does Newegg ship to Nicaragua?

Here is the issue.  Whatever you dip shits are doing in T3/T4 to crash it needs to stop time now.  Saying that "oh with XYZ I can still crash PoF" to cloud the issue and direct attention away from your intentional crashes of T3/T4 is childish.


/yawn  Yellowbird making accusations again.

It's amazing how the guild who's in T3/T4 doing the beta testing for the rest of this server is accused of exploiting, yet the same guild continues to defeat the content day after day.  So why exploit, when it's quicker to defeat the encounter then waiting for assistance or criticism from the likes of you. 

So next time you post, please take some of your own advice ....


useful: actual gamparse parses.   aka FACTS!!!
not useful: anecdotal evidence. 

get with the program.


Title: Re: New server hardware
Post by: yellowbird on April 11, 2010, 08:56:56 pm
Camric: I don't think anyone has accused Bashful Crustaceans of hacking.


Title: Re: New server hardware
Post by: Teehee on April 11, 2010, 08:58:56 pm
I will say this

Over Raided has earned all the gear they have gotten without paying for someone else to either play the toon or to have the gear given to him


Title: Re: New server hardware
Post by: yellowbird on April 11, 2010, 09:08:48 pm
By earn do you mean AFK macroing a raid in LDON?  If yes, we have very different definitions of earn.  That having been said, if you asked Hunter if I've earned every piece of gear on my character his answer would be yes.  It's his opinion that matters, amirite?

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Your tears are salty and delicious.  Back on topic.

@Femme: http://www.vimeo.com/10856243

Video will finish converting in a half hour or so.  I was able to replicate the lag spike you noted in your screenshot.  That is client side.  Anything else you'd like me to debunk?


Title: Re: New server hardware
Post by: Teehee on April 11, 2010, 09:14:07 pm
Shit earned meant having 6+ toons of carbon copies? Grats on logging in and /oocing that you just earned the t3 legs when you didnt go get them.

You are right then my bad you know more about content than us when you sit in nexus telling people that if they dont believe a thing you say that you can go onto Fires of heaven vent and talk to hunter on there. Spouting stuff about t3/t4 from the nexus.

Yet you came to OR members to get us to help you with information when you always shit talk us from day 1. Especially when you tried to tell us you needed hunter's database to do things and when you were told you could do it without the database you told us hunter would be fine with it.


Title: Re: New server hardware
Post by: yellowbird on April 11, 2010, 09:26:36 pm
You are referencing a conversation that you were not a party to.  What I asked the member of your guild was this, "is there a tool that works like mysqlhotcopy that can be used from a remote server?"  The database work that was being done, so you know, was an attempt to offload the Mageloclone and Allaclone (coming soon!) to a separate SQL server.  So no, I don't need a copy of Hunter's database to "do what I am doing."  The game servers database itself literally needs to be copied so that queries from Magelo/Allaclones don't lag the game server.

Like I told your member, if he isn't willing to work with Hunter and I so that the server can be improved we'll just work above his head.  It comes down to being a part of the problem vs. part of the solution.


Title: Re: New server hardware
Post by: Teehee on April 11, 2010, 09:28:34 pm
See thats the thing.

We dont mind working with hunter.

We have tested T1, T2 content. We help give feedback and all that with the content. For ROA we were the first people to go through to test it aswell.

Being helpful is not an issue we have.

You are just a jack ass.

P.S nexus just crashed


Title: Re: New server hardware
Post by: Crabthewall on April 11, 2010, 09:31:07 pm
P.S nexus just crashed

I think we already have figured out what is going wrong with nexus/qrg crashing, there is a zone available that shouldn't be and if someone picks that zone, it crashes out the entire zone. Just needs to be removed from the list, email has already been sent to hunter.


Title: Re: New server hardware
Post by: Teehee on April 11, 2010, 09:32:28 pm
Qvic crashed too though?


Title: Re: New server hardware
Post by: Crabthewall on April 11, 2010, 09:33:42 pm
Qvic crashed too though?

Don't have information on it, but 20 people are in it right now? Sure it wasn't a client side crash?


Title: Re: New server hardware
Post by: Teehee on April 11, 2010, 09:34:47 pm
Dunno 2 people said they crashed from it different sides unsure of the full explanation just watching OOC and others talking about how they crashed aswell.

They could of been in nexus but just going by what i have read and heard.


Title: Re: New server hardware
Post by: Crabthewall on April 11, 2010, 09:38:34 pm
Dunno 2 people said they crashed from it different sides unsure of the full explanation just watching OOC and others talking about how they crashed aswell.

They could of been in nexus but just going by what i have read and heard.

Can't say for sure, I wasn't in the zone. Hunter did 750+ mobs at the same time with an aoe in seru with no crash earlier so while it may technically be possible to crash a zone still, it certainly seems to be 100 times harder then it ever was before. There are also more people on the server then have on before based upon http://www.eqemulator.org/index.php?pageid=serverinfo&worldid=768 hitting a high of 421 so far tonight, I'm sure that adds some level of additional load to the box.

He said on the older server he couldn't do 1/4 of fire without crashing it, and it didn't blink when he did the whole fire on this box, and so he moved to seru and zone aggro'd and no failure there which is the biggest npc zone in the game.


Title: Re: New server hardware
Post by: Uxt on April 11, 2010, 09:43:35 pm
Yeah, died in PoD and suddenly I kept getting disconnected in Nexus. Ouch. Number of players when I first DC'd was over 450, now it dropped to like 320 or even less. Ouch.

Cool, can't crash some zones as easily anymore? Awesome! Now I'll unleash the full fury of my paladin, facerolling my discs so I rampage, flurry, and riposte 100+ mobs at a time with a single pull. I'll run through LDoN 6 and destroy entire wings of enemies in one go, instead of fighting bosses solo for 20+ minutes. No more holding back! /RAGE!


Title: Re: New server hardware
Post by: Secrets on April 11, 2010, 09:47:41 pm
How many times do we hear PoFire crashed over the months but we never see a zone reconnect... Like I said, just pointing out: Crashing a Zone is still possible when over pulling.

I was using Rampage + Aug V x4.
I think the Aug 5 when it kills a bunch of mobs all at once, that's when it causes a zone to hiccup/lockup

You are confusing your client crashing with the zone crashing. If a zone crashes you will see a yellow zone message.

Incorrect, the yellow zone message is only on Linux, not Windows. There are certain debug flags that determine the zone crash message showing.

We compiled in release anyway, so that furthers the EQDEBUG flag.

Another thing to note is there is only one known EQEmu crash that we've yet to fix related to AIYellForHelp, but if you are nuking NPCs that should not be the case.

Another thing that could have happened is you pulled the entire zone, and your client desynched as stated. After 20% packet loss the server drops your connection, just as an FYI.


Title: Re: New server hardware
Post by: Crabthewall on April 11, 2010, 09:51:52 pm
How many times do we hear PoFire crashed over the months but we never see a zone reconnect... Like I said, just pointing out: Crashing a Zone is still possible when over pulling.

I was using Rampage + Aug V x4.
I think the Aug 5 when it kills a bunch of mobs all at once, that's when it causes a zone to hiccup/lockup

You are confusing your client crashing with the zone crashing. If a zone crashes you will see a yellow zone message.

Incorrect, the yellow zone message is only on Linux, not Windows. There are certain debug flags that determine the zone crash message showing.

We compiled in release anyway, so that furthers the EQDEBUG flag.

Another thing to note is there is only one known EQEmu crash that we've yet to fix related to AIYellForHelp, but if you are nuking NPCs that should not be the case.

Another thing that could have happened is you pulled the entire zone, and your client desynched as stated. After 20% packet loss the server drops your connection, just as an FYI.

I stand corrected, sorry Femme. I was unware of the yellow text message only being linux. Hunter will have to pull the zone crash info then since no one else will be able to see it.