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Title: Update 12 04 10
Post by: Hunter on December 04, 2010, 01:07:23 pm
I was planning to work on Shadow (Epic 3.5) Boss in PoG, but I decided that I'll spend this whole weekend working on T5, T6, Epic 4.5, and Epic 5.0 stuff instead.

Some spoilers:

To enter the T5/T6 zone, you'll need full suit of T4 armor (possible and/or require Epic 4.0).
T5/T6 are all single class armors.
Armor combines for T5 won't require the armor from T4, as in previous tiers.
Boss spawns with triggers, not turn ins. No farming x number items to spawn a boss.

I'll be online (invisible) most of the weekend.

Enjoy!

Hunter



Edit:

I've realized the content is so HUGE, including possible over 100 recipes, 700-1000 items, and 100 bosses, that I won't be able to fit 2 tiers of armor into 1 zone. So it'll just be T5 armor only (plus epics). You won't have to grind a turn in item to spawn bosses, but you will have to move around to trigger them, and do a lot of events. Sitting in 1 spot for 1 boss for 1 item is just not how it's going to work this time. Also bosses will be more about surviving the damage than fighting for a long time, so yeah boss fights will be shorter, and I'll talk to Basher about making them less than 50 feet tall lol.

I haven't rebooted the server, but I've made a few fixes already for when I do reboot. Also planning to do source code update when I reboot, so the reboot would take more than a few minutes when it does happen.



Edit:

Updated Source
Updated Haste Cap
Updated other rule values
Updated Magelo
Updated Tradeskill Rewards Plat Values
Updated Spell file -
Spell: Wizard T3 does 25% less damage now and cost 50k mana to cast.
Spell: Brawler/Sorcer said VI when it was really IV is now fixed

Was unable to make a stack of Red Stones for T3/T4 to combine as a stack, so will need to find another way, possible thru NPC quest code.

Other updates done on T5, etc.

Enjoy!

Hunter


Title: Re: Update 12 04 10
Post by: lerxst2112 on December 04, 2010, 01:47:20 pm

Not to seem ungrateful, but there are a lot of bugs from the latest source update that would be really nice to have fixed.  There's also some fixes/new features in the source right after the last update, such as fixing Gift of Mana for the Titanium people that can't simply block the buff.  There's also some new code that fixes the large values of haste on items being ignored and even a rule to allow you to easily increase the haste cap if that is desired.

I've seen a lot of chatter about the druid epic not taking advantage of oracle focus and focus of healing.  This doesn't currently affect me since when I roa it has been good enough, but I know it would make some people happy if it was looked into.

The Thanksgiving Boar spell doesn't seem to work properly.  If it was replaced with something else or fixed to work as described it would be appreciated.

I'm all for new content, but fixing the issues that come up as we get to the new content should have some priority as well.

Just my 2 cents.


Title: Re: Update 12 04 10
Post by: Richard on December 04, 2010, 02:36:10 pm
I was planning to work on Shadow (Epic 3.5) Boss in PoG, but I decided that I'll spend this whole weekend working on T5, T6, Epic 4.5, and Epic 5.0 stuff instead.

Some spoilers:

To enter the T5/T6 zone, you'll need full suit of T4 armor (possible and/or require Epic 4.0).
T5/T6 are all single class armors.
Armor combines for T5 won't require the armor from T4, as in previous tiers.
Boss spawns with triggers, not turn ins. No farming x number items to spawn a boss.

I'll be online (invisible) most of the weekend.

Enjoy!

Hunter

To enter T5/T6  you having to have all your T4 gear is a great idea and also a must to also have your 4.0 is hands down the best idea ever to get flaged to get into T5/T6.  Boss spawn with trigers=AWESOMENESS

great news imo


Title: Re: Update 12 04 10
Post by: gimpy on December 04, 2010, 03:01:58 pm
Now if Hunter was really evil, he would make it so you cant equip the 4.0+ unless you have full t4 gear  :)


Title: Re: Update 12 04 10
Post by: Demin on December 04, 2010, 04:40:34 pm
Full T4 to enter?  Man, I can't even get the T3 bp to drop.  I have 4.0s on like 4 guys, though.


Title: Re: Update 12 04 10
Post by: Wack on December 04, 2010, 06:26:44 pm
well nice to hear your workin on t5/t6 will say I am bummed I've been looking forward to shadow change =/
Edit* oh. t5/t6 can we get reg sized mobs rofl =D


Title: Re: Update 12 04 10
Post by: Brianlb on December 04, 2010, 06:38:35 pm
oh. t5/t6 can we get reg sized mobs rofl =D

What you dont like staring at a mobs feet while fighting? But It would be nice to see all of the mob you are fighting. Not that it really matters, but for some reason I'd just want to see them.


Title: Re: Update 12 04 10
Post by: Apology on December 04, 2010, 06:39:56 pm
Full T4 set requirement will make getting a fresh(er) alt into T5-6 content an utter nightmare in the absence of a T3 rotbot.


Title: Re: Update 12 04 10
Post by: Wack on December 04, 2010, 06:56:44 pm
oh. t5/t6 can we get reg sized mobs rofl =D

What you dont like staring at a mobs feet while fighting? But It would be nice to see all of the mob you are fighting. Not that it really matters, but for some reason I'd just want to see them.
ya it doesnt matter just like seeing what im hitting I guess call me odd =/


Title: Re: Update 12 04 10
Post by: barrettd04 on December 04, 2010, 06:59:40 pm
Full T4 set requirement will make getting a fresh(er) alt into T5-6 content an utter nightmare in the absence of a T3 rotbot.

I personally think it's a good idea, because progression is too fast on this server IMO.  I'm not suggesting that it come to the point of Live or p99, but people are able to progress very far in the game in only a few weeks time i they know what they're doing.  I've been playing casually since May and only have my box crew up to Tacvi.  


Title: Re: Update 12 04 10
Post by: Ponzi on December 04, 2010, 07:45:39 pm
well nice to hear your workin on t5/t6 will say I am bummed I've been looking forward to shadow change =/
Edit* oh. t5/t6 can we get reg sized mobs rofl =D

lol try playing a halfling warrior. I have to look up to see the top of their feet :o.

Even my froglok has to jump while casting jolt to pull avatars on steps. it's insane.


Title: Re: Update 12 04 10
Post by: Hunter on December 04, 2010, 09:16:01 pm
oh. t5/t6 can we get reg sized mobs rofl =D

What you dont like staring at a mobs feet while fighting? But It would be nice to see all of the mob you are fighting. Not that it really matters, but for some reason I'd just want to see them.

Yeah, the trash/bosses probably won't be super big, maybe only 15 feet tall instead of 50 feet tall. Would be funny to see main tank die so quickly from a little rat.

I'm reading your ideas and taking them all into consideration. Requirements to enter zone is definitely a good idea to slow down progression. I might consider either rot bot or dragon class style to help players get their alts up into T5, but that streamlining won't be a priority and won't be that quick. Might require 4 items for rot bot instead of 2 items, but would be better than nothing and get your final alt into T5.


Title: Re: Update 12 04 10
Post by: Hunter on December 04, 2010, 09:50:54 pm

Not to seem ungrateful, but there are a lot of bugs from the latest source update that would be really nice to have fixed.  There's also some fixes/new features in the source right after the last update, such as fixing Gift of Mana for the Titanium people that can't simply block the buff.  There's also some new code that fixes the large values of haste on items being ignored and even a rule to allow you to easily increase the haste cap if that is desired.

I've seen a lot of chatter about the druid epic not taking advantage of oracle focus and focus of healing.  This doesn't currently affect me since when I roa it has been good enough, but I know it would make some people happy if it was looked into.

The Thanksgiving Boar spell doesn't seem to work properly.  If it was replaced with something else or fixed to work as described it would be appreciated.

I'm all for new content, but fixing the issues that come up as we get to the new content should have some priority as well.

Just my 2 cents.


The Thanksgiving item I thought was suppose to only work if its during Thanksgiving season? I don't know, Secrets created that event for us.

Not sure about Druids, will have to look into them.

Will check Haste Cap value rule and other things.

Working on a combo of fixes + T5 stuff all weekend long. Expect multiple reboots.


Title: Re: Update 12 04 10
Post by: Hunter on December 04, 2010, 09:55:15 pm
Source change log:

==11/24/2010==
Caryatis: (Secrets) Haste values can exceed 127%(ie Can o' Whoop Ass).

Seems I need to update source code tonight for haste values. Melee people might be happy after its done heh. Would require down time. Going to get more edits done in the database before I bring down the server for source code updating, which is about 2-3 weeks old at this point.


Title: Re: Update 12 04 10
Post by: lerxst2112 on December 04, 2010, 11:31:54 pm
The Thanksgiving item I thought was suppose to only work if its during Thanksgiving season? I don't know, Secrets created that event for us.

It's up to you, but I'm sure we all thought that we'd get the boar during the event and then be able to use it all the time after the event, like Halloween pets.

The problem is that the spell the boar casts just doesn't work properly.  The first version seemed to for my melee toons before the recast time was reduced and the effect bumped from 15% to 25%, but now it seems to not work for melee at all, and the spell mod it uses adds a flat 25 damage to spell effects instead of a percentage.


Title: Re: Update 12 04 10
Post by: Kwai on December 05, 2010, 12:09:38 am
... and for some of us noobs who were not big enough to get one at Halloween ...

Turning that roboboar into a Halloween type pet would be cause for great rejoicing!


Title: Re: Update 12 04 10
Post by: Hunter on December 05, 2010, 12:37:02 am
The Thanksgiving item I thought was suppose to only work if its during Thanksgiving season? I don't know, Secrets created that event for us.

It's up to you, but I'm sure we all thought that we'd get the boar during the event and then be able to use it all the time after the event, like Halloween pets.

The problem is that the spell the boar casts just doesn't work properly.  The first version seemed to for my melee toons before the recast time was reduced and the effect bumped from 15% to 25%, but now it seems to not work for melee at all, and the spell mod it uses adds a flat 25 damage to spell effects instead of a percentage.


Hopefully Secrets will be around to answer those questions, cause she is the one that made the event + item.



Title: Re: Update 12 04 10
Post by: Xiggie | Stone on December 05, 2010, 12:57:14 am
Source change log:

==11/24/2010==
Caryatis: (Secrets) Haste values can exceed 127%(ie Can o' Whoop Ass).

Seems I need to update source code tonight for haste values. Melee people might be happy after its done heh. Would require down time.

This is awesome.


Title: Re: Update 12 04 10
Post by: Wack on December 05, 2010, 01:23:45 am
... and for some of us noobs who were not big enough to get one at Halloween ...

Turning that roboboar into a Halloween type pet would be cause for great rejoicing!

lol shrug would be cool if it buff'd would make my monk happy but prob gonna just fork over the money for the Halloween pet from the bot


Title: Re: Update 12 04 10
Post by: Tibador on December 05, 2010, 01:37:25 am
Uhh not sure if your aware or not Hunter but Secrets is taking some time off probally for the better.


Title: Re: Update 12 04 10
Post by: Wack on December 05, 2010, 01:39:28 am
Uhh not sure if your aware or not Hunter but Secrets is taking some time off probally for the better.

Ya I from the last post seemed like they took alot of what people sad to heart =/


Title: Re: Update 12 04 10
Post by: kaizen on December 05, 2010, 04:47:19 pm
what is tradeskill rewards plat values?

merchants are acting funny and won't buy some stuff now


Title: Re: Update 12 04 10
Post by: lerxst2112 on December 05, 2010, 04:53:22 pm
what is tradeskill rewards plat values?

merchants are acting funny and won't buy some stuff now

Based on this discussion I expect there was a change to items made by tradeskills.

http://www.eqemulator.org/forums/showthread.php?t=32625

Whatever the combine was that was making people huge amounts of plat is gone.


Title: Re: Update 12 04 10
Post by: Gnaughty on December 05, 2010, 05:27:49 pm
I think I am coming across as negative in my posts and am sorry for it, sometimes I get too wrapped up in my toons.  I dont think I am going to post anymore on things that need change such as mellee nerf and todays wizard nerf.  Just does no good since Hunter doesnt want to hear complaining and I dont like it myself.  I get so many people sending me messages as soon as I log in so I'm sorta tempted to try and get them answers such as this melee nerf  and wizard nerf.  I truly enjoy helping people out with answers and my time but I think its getting me a bad name and it's time to either suck it up and play other classes than those of mine nerfed, or take Hunters advice of if you dont like the way things are you can simply play somewhere else.  Sorry for my negativity and stuff.


Title: Re: Update 12 04 10
Post by: Reid on December 05, 2010, 06:11:56 pm
That does seem rather a steep mana cost for the spell. My wizard got it when he had 20k mana, and it took me almost a week to squeeze that extra 5k in through upgrades. Afterwards, one spell sent me into manastone spam mode, or ether flame/mana stone spam mode.

I do agree on the dmg nerf, but I question the need for the doubling of the mana cost. I'd like some one to link me a wizard who has 50k mana who isn't full t3 class specific geared.  :-[


Title: Re: Update 12 04 10
Post by: Reid on December 05, 2010, 06:32:19 pm
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50k mana is unreasonable. 30k wouldn't have been as bad, and would have more accurately put the wizard into t3 content before it could be cast anyways.

Quoting my 2c.

T3 wiz spells aren't chain casted anyways by anyone *I* know. Please rethink the mana cost Hunter. Wizards are a one trick pony as it is, let them keep their illusions of atom bomb.