EZ Server

So earlier today i went down to sebilis and had a buddy open the door for me so that i could get my KD for the FG set. When i zoned in i checked to see who was where, so i knew if there was a line or such at any particular mob. At that time, i seen a guy named "mase" running around the area where the KD spawn was, but he wasn't in the room. When my buddy opened the door, i bolted past the dude and killed everything outside the KD room and then stepped in in case the person camping it was afk. Didn't want to train someone that was already camping a room, that i was going to line up for. I ask Gabrella who was next and she informed me that Ubar was. She said that she was on her way out, and that Ubar was afk but he was camping the camp after her. I tried to message Ubar and then did a /ooc to see if he was on another toon so that he could take over his spot in the camp since Gabrella was leaving. Soon after that, mase insisted that he got there before me. I /random 100 the camp with him and won. I killed about 3-4 different KD Ph's and such and the dude asked me what the spawn timer was, so i explained to him it was 15 minutes and that i was camping multiple spawns so i would check back at 3:27 when the spawn was due up. When i came back to my screen, i noticed that he was looting my Mob with the KD on it. When i sent him a message he automatically went Link dead and never responded. Zues happened to walk into the room 5 minutes before the KD mob spawned and the dude even told him that it was my camp. Zues even witnessed him picking up the item and claiming to give it to me, but instead just gated out and went link dead.

I don't care to whine and such, but people like this need to be banned or suspended or some crap. Theres people that wait all day for a particular mob just to have this happen. I feel like lately more and more people are just acting an ass because they so can. We need to find a way to stop this...makes the game very unfun.

Here's some screen shots so everyone can read whats going on..I was having some issues with how to get my screen shots to work since i didn't have my screen shots folder for some reason. I was eventually able to figure out a way to get them so everyone could see the proof...

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Btw, not sure why they didn't come out clear, the originals were emailed to hunter and those you can view everything perfectly. I didn't know how to "Frap" so i couldn't make a video..=/

i was on an alt of mine, Zues, when this happened and witnessed Mase kill the mob and loot it without giving a 5min fair warninng or even asking to loot the mob that Keg was camping. Keg returned withing his 5min warning to find Mase LD wih his loot and nothing to say for it. i personally dont like people who have no class and will leave this up to Hunter to decide what to do with this person who was just plain Rude. i wont even get into what he was saying to me.

fraps=download, setup a hotkey, keep it running in the background. Hit said hotkey when ya wanna record video. Trial version only does like 30 sec at a time, but can hit it again to restart.

 Anyways I tried to read it,but its just to small (thats what she said!) for me to make out.

What she said, too small for us to read, but if the large size went to Hunter I'm sure someone is gonna get the hammer, or at least a whippin :P

I will see if i can reopen them in paint and make them bigger.

That would be nice but don't kill yourself with it.  The word is out now.  People will be much more aware when Mase is around.  Thanks for the heads up.

Not so good.

This is Gabrella,

I was there , it was carshowkings camp, he won the rand 100.

I killed one more ph then went afk.

Sounds like the OP when way out of his way to be nice to mase and mase took every opportunity to be an opportunistic asshole.

Camstudios.org is a free version of fraps with unlimited videos. When Shadow was first introduced I recorded Balthor and myself killing him. The fight lasted about 45 minutes and was several gigs. It was very clear and had no issues.

this is unrelated to this thread, but how do i start a new post?

Hold up hold up hold up -

This is only one side of the story!

This is what happened -

Kedzog and I ran to the KD room, we were basically the same time (running side by side until the last room), so we did a /random 100 to see who was first in line.

Ok, I had a 3, Kedzog had a 44.  So he was next in line.  Understood. 

Some time passes, Zeus from Illuminata comes in.  I tell him that I am next, and he is 3rd.  He responds with "yeah I know puta". 

The KD dude spawns, and comes to me since I am in the corner, my defensive reflex on my character puts a bunch of hurt on him, so I kill him.  He has the KD so I loot it.  I then Hail Kedzog several times - no response. 

Zeus starts talking trash, because he thinks I am going to steal it.  I say no I am not I am going to, I am going to give it to Kedzog.   More trash talk ensues, so I say lets settle it with a dual (to Zeus).  Kedzog is still afk.

After I kill Zeus, I notice that it has been 5 minutes and Kedzog is still afk. 

I was told that there is a 5 minute rule on loot, so I ported.  I'd been camping all day, so I logged off and helped with a friend's car battery.

If I was mistaken about the 5 minute rule, I apologize.  It was fun stomping Zeus. 

Please hear BOTH sides of the story, and I apologize for any perceived wrong doings.

I'm not a KSer, honest

Mase Windu from Star Wars

After reading some of these posts, it seemed like you guys had ALREADY passed judgement without hearing the whole story. 

Unsettling, but I'll defend my case.

Camping multiple spawns on the same char is not allowed..once you bail you forfeited the camp less no one was there when ya returned.

 That being said, I'm not sure what ya meant buy this,where ya camping stuff on a different char? Or did you leave the KD spawn to go check another spawn?

 Mase..best thing to do in that situation is send the AFK player a /tell about it,then time stamp it and take a SS..wait the 5 minutes do same thing..then your in the clear and have proof. Its always good to cover you own ass.

edit:
 Since ya was in room and waiting your turn,could have time stamped the pop when it popped..time stamp again after the 5..if dude hasnt budged..feel free to kill it.

 Am I wrong about this? This was my understanding of the 5 min rule. I mean they dont even have to be afk for this to apply.

Drezden, I will do that next time.  Thanks for the info 

I am a fairly familiar with MMo's, but not of this type of character defamation. 

In my defense, it seems like he was camping multiple mobs by boxing, and he was simply afk for too long.

I don't like making enemies, especially on a nostalgia-mmo called EZ server. 

I will follow you advice to a T Drezden, as I do not want to have this fiasco again.

thanks

I couldn't find anything in the server rules section about camping multiple spawn points.

Can anyone else find anything and direct everyone on this thread to the rule?

It is my understanding that camping multiple spawns with different characters is a big no-no. Something I found out while breaking this exact rule for which I apologize even if there is no rule. It seems that this would be exploiting the generosity of Hunter and team allowing us to Box on this server.

Kudos to Mase for stepping up and apologizing for his mistake although it may not be enough for what may be him taking advantage of a situation and making off with the loot. I am not accusing you of doing this, although there is just no proof to back you up on this one while there are multiple people pointing fingers saying you're the bad guy here.

Play it safe next time and get some helpful screen shots to back you up bro.

I don't like how I'm proven guilty until proven innocent

Apparently several screen shots which nobody can read = he was right.

Needless to say I hailed him several times, and he didn't respond.  
For 5 minutes - 350 seconds.  Count that out loud - it was a significant amount of time to be away from your keyboard/character.

When camping Fighters Guild items, I would hope that you'd have the respect of the person (sometimes several people) waiting in line to get that item.  The whole FG set sells for 400-500k.  One item mathematically is worth 22k, but I have seen KD's go up to 50k.

I play by the rules.  Here is an analogy.  

This is exactly like someone using a dryer in a community washer/dryer room.  Sometimes people leave their clothes in the dryer when it's done.  However, there are only limited amounts of dryers.  Sometimes someone has to take the other person's clothes out of the dryer, so that they can get their turn at using it.  The other person comes back and finds their clothes in a pile on the floor and gets mad.  Well, you didn't come back fast enough, and those are the rules.

yes, there are better analogies, only one I could think of right now.

I apologize for the inconvenience to Kedzog, however he was afk far too long and FG items do not give the luxury of having extended afk times.  Plus it sounds like he was multi-boxing FG items - which is not allowed.

If I am wrong about the 5 minute rule, please correct me.  Otherwise, I truly do not feel I did anything wrong and I will defend my point of view.

Just because he put a post with pictures before me doesn't give him the right of way.

Next time I will take multiple screen shots if something questionable comes up, and post them on the forum ASAP.

My lesson of how FAST you get a wrong reputation has been learned.

I apologize again for any misconceptions, and would like to move on to more gaming and everquest beat downs.

Thanks L

Mase, that story of yours isnt all true and you know it. yes i was in line when i came down. you did not say "i am next in line", you made an ignorant mexican comment (not the first time i have had an ignorant coment by Mase fyi). YOU killed the KD mob and looted it right away and said nothing until i said Gratz Kegzod and YOU said you looted it so i wouldnt KS. i mean seriosuly why would i KS a mob i was 3rd in line for and could get anytime i want, i was the one who witnessed YOU KS and loot the mob "without saying nothing". after you made that comment of me going to KS is when i said you were the one who just KSed. YOU then starting rumbling trash talk and i simply said id probably whoop your ass with my gimp alt Paladin which lead to the duel where my gimp Pal died. i got back to the camp within a Min and Mase was no where to be found and logged out. Kegzod also returned when i got back (remind you this all went down within that 5min) and i told him the situation. Also i remember Keg saying he was helping a friend on another screen. Let me also add that this isnt the first time Mase has been ignorant, ive had an encounter with him in Lguk where he was ignorant and also making rude remarks. If he doesnt end up getting banned for his actions, atleast the whole server is now aware of him and his no class attitude.

 You know I'm not even sure about this one. I just know ya cant claim to be camping separate camps with same char.

No one passed judgment on anything. You and I didn't get to the room at the same time, and even Gabrella will back me up on that, you insisted that we got there the same time and asked me to roll for the camp. I told you how i came to the camp before you and you asked me to roll for it... I was being nice and said sure, due to the fact that i had other shit going on. Prior to that i had wirate open the door from an alt for sebilis and watched you run around the area of the door looking for how to get down there. Before i get to a camp, i always check my MQ2 to see where/how many people are camping what spawn point. After all that and me winning the roll I told you exactly when the next mob would be up, and what the spawn timer was. If those screen shots were bigger, (the ones i sent to hunter are) you will notice i wasn't gone for very long at all. I even told you that i was camping 2-3 different spawn points for my charc's and how i was tabbing threw screens. You practically sat in that room while i killed 4-5 different PH's/Nameds looking for that item.I was Definitely not gone for no 5 minutes after the mob respawned. There was more then just me and you in the room. Multiple people aren't going to lie about how long i was afk for. Zues walked into the room and you told him the camp was mine. You guys started arguing about how you killed my mob and your reflex were too strong. I came back to hail the mob right as you gated out!

After gating out, I sent you 3-4 tells and none were answered followed by you logging out. Really man, you wanted to give me the KD then why did you log out and gate outta Seb after sending a telling Zues that you were going to give me the KD?

Yes i was on 2-3 different charc's camping 2-3 different spawns. I was able to kill all my spawns and knew exactly when they were spawning. I have over 12 different charc's and camp multiple spawn's in FG/CG so that i can make those go by faster. I don't run over people nor kill there camp's when they are afk..I just wait for people to leave so that i can camp it next.

I wasn't holding the camp on the same charc. I had 3  character screens going, on 3 separate camp's...Don't believe anything is wrong with that unless you can't kill the mobs or go afk for longer then 5 minutes...

And yes it does have something to say Madthrok, "there are people pointing the finger" ratio is 3-1 here with the side of 3 story all in place and not lying.

Like i said, I was camping stuff on a different Character. I had 3 of them up and were camping 3 separate spawn points.

No, I set the timer, I play by the rules.  I set a timer after any spawn dies, you were AFK.

Please don't lie.

I've said everything I've needed to say, and I stand by my story.

I'll take this up with whoever, I know what happened. 

I am not going to listen to a sore loser who just got a lesson in being AFK when camping FG items.

That's correct. Problem here was, he didn't wait the 5 minutes like he is claiming. He killed the mob and gated, I took screen shots from the beginning of the story when i ran into him until i came back...

If you knew exactly what time the mob was spawning, you wouldn't have missed it. I knew what time it was, might of been off by a minute but no more then that. When i got back to my screen he had just finished gating and telling Zues that he was going to hand me the item =/

Ragekat/Zeus -

You're just mad because I put a massive beatdown on your pally.  Yeah you got pwnd.

Use some common sense.


You, is you the person, not each one of your boxes.

key word "alt Paladin" whos qvic geared. And i rest my case in his attitude, instead of talking about something more relevant like the topic states, he talks about the duel. the server doesnt need people like this.

 I mean I have no clue what went down,cant read the SS.. Hunter will make that call. I was trying to explain how to cover your ass in that situation.

 I wouldnt think camping mutli's on boxes is wrong,seeing as how if theres a line waiting..you still got to move on after you get your item. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

 edit: I see lerxst post on it above mine. Thats part is kinda vague and maybe needs some clarification? I mean how do you really know if its some ones alt/box if you dont know the person or guild tag is different?

I just buy my FG/CG stuff..but I'm just lazy when it comes to camps haha! but I will farm the hell outta some stones!

I'm sorry carshowkings, but you are wrong.  I did wait 5 minutes, you only took those screen shots after you scrolled up.  I have a chronometer on my desktop and I did the fair gaming procedure.

I did not receive any tells from you, you were still afk, so I gated.

Now you are lying to make it seem you are right, and Ragekat/Zeus is joining in because I killed him in a duel.

Sounds like your the one mad about how everyone is pointing the finger at you for being a thief. I got my entire set last night like needed be. I'm not mad about jack, just don't want you to rob someone else like you did to me earlier today. You just lied about your own story and 3 people called you out on it.

Stop being a sore loser and stealing peoples camps and this problem wouldn't arise.

Where in the rules does it say that?  If i can kill the camp, and I'm clearing it ever pop...then why not? I would just get my item and move on...

I'll wait for Hunter's reply on this...

I have one on my desktop as well. I knew what time it was. I'm done with your attitude and the topic. I'll wait for hunter's reply. Zues/Ragekat is joining in because he was in the room, same way Gabrella backed me up too. All good, waiting for hunter's reply's.

Happy Hunting everyone!

*Note

I know the truth, so I am fine.

Please go back to Wow where people like you are in the thousands

No Mase you are wrong, you didnt wait 5min and have no proof/ back up on it. You also are wrong about me being mad in the duel, i laughed when my Pal died, i was surprised he lasted as long as he did for being so gimp compared to my Zerker. Honestly it is you who is lying and trying to turn the story around, unfortunately you dont have any proof or witness as we do. The MAIN REASON he made this post is so that no one else would have to deal with you in a situation like this in the future. i mean your words alone just go to show what kind of class and attitude you have and im glad everyone can now see that. Have a good day.

Like I said, use some common sense.  People that look for loopholes in the rules don't last here.

I have done several FG quests for several characters over the past few months, and this is the only squabble I have seen.

People do not need to worry about me, I play for fun and with my friends.  If you do have a problem with me, I'd like to resolve it. 

Gaming is for fun, and this kind of pettiness is a drag to be a part of.

I am sorry that you guys are so angry/upset.  My only advice is to not be afk longer than 5 minutes on heavily camped FG items.

 You know I been wondering the same thing. I noticed on his last few post his name on the left was white and said guest under it? He delete?

 Oh dont give up yet ! I was hoping to hit 200 post count in this thread alone !

People just want to hate because Mace Windu is sweet  8)

lol that isn't me, there are too many characters in that name,

seriously people

This just got good. Two people calling each other liars, one pulling out the "go back to WoW" card. Then Salvashun (who just learned how to make a new thread earlier today!) pulls out the conspiracy card and tries to pull Balthor into it.

/popcorn

Wait you talking about me xxblitzkriegxx?

WT...?

If he continues to learn at this exponential rate the "too dumb to mq2" defense might not hold up.

Too good to get buried or edited.

 You got me,you sent me on a 'Where in the world is balthor" run ! I went frame by frame ! I did see a RIP guild member,but hell those guys will invite anyone !

Ditto.  Once in awhile I will camp the easier drops but I won't go near LGuk or Sebilis.  Too much drama.

Salvashun, thanks for the laugh.   :D

And every now and then a friendly little guildy gives ya those nasty little items from guk and sebilis cause i know you and term both hate those places :P

Yes!  Every once in awhile (twice now if I'm correct) our cute guildy hands over some items to Term and I and won't take plat for them.  Cute and generous!  Take notice girls!   ;D

I was laughing at you.... well, maybe I was.  But it was in a nice way.   ;D

 I'm so confused now ! Would you guys quit posting so i can go play !

WTF is this guy smoking? Get on the right topic if your gonna try to flame.

Read the Topic Subject. thanks.