EZ Server

This is an advance notice so everyone gets a chance.

This weekend I plan to make charms tradeable for 1-2 days. In the future, maybe 1 month, I might make a day that Paladins can trade their charms to an alt since they got nerfed a lot. Making charms tradeable will happen only once, and there are no refunds or reverses after the event to trade your charms is over. Ring of the Ages will NOT be included in this event, only charms.

Charms may be lore to each other, so be careful when trading charms, and make sure the alt you give them too doesn't have any of those types of charms that you give them, or else items may get deleted due to duplicate lore. There are no refunds. I am one person and don't have the time to research everyones case of who had what, and why items got lost or deleted. Moving your charms around will be at your own risk. Check your banks before making the trades with your alts.

Different charm ranks can NOT combine with each other. You can only combine a charm rank with a charm upgrade, not another ranked charm. Be aware of this if your trying to gives someone a type of charm they already have.

I realize that a lot of players invested a lot time into making their (Over Powered) Paladin which got mostly nerfed (balanced) in recently class re-balancing while the other 15 classes got better and more powerful. I can not promise what other changes will be made in the future with classes. Some changes that were made may get changed again, and some changes might stay the way they are now. We will continue to add more content and make all the classes useful or balanced as possible.

In the future, if 1/2 of the players online are just one type of class due to being over powered and able to solo end game content, then you can expect them to get fixed/balanced as well since it is intended players to obtain end game gear through the use of groups and raids. Trading charms will only happen this one time this weekend.

Enjoy!

Hunter

LOVE YA

omg yay now I can fix my stupid charm mistakes!

This is a great idea and will really help people out.
I have one concern... if balancing is still going on I would suggest waiting to allow the tradable charm until you are done with the balancing.  If balancing is done now its all great.

Let us know

So basically your allowing trading of a charm they don't have,or if you want to give your toon a higher level from another character u must delete the lower level one the character receiving it and them do the trade.


Oh any thoughts about looking into Broken Brawler Charm after T5 is Finished?

wonder how many folks will be selling charms on this day, imagine the prices you'll see lvl 25 to 50 go for :)

It be great if we give a few days notice for this one day event so that those of us who don't get on every day can take advantage of this incredibly generous gift.

Hunter I wonder if waiting a month would be a good idea. This would give you a chance to get the server back into a stable state before having players commit their charms to characters that might get re envisioned.

It might be cool to make it part of a big event weekend. Like double loot and charm switch St Patricks day or something!.


Just a thought. I think a little prudence might help.

I will say I'm enjoying the shake up of the classes it's been fun.

Deadend

I agree with pushing back the date of the transfer.  The changes haven't been done yet and the dust have not settled.  It may be a better idea if we wait until everything is stable before we make a committed one-time decision.

^^Definitely something to consider.  I just started playing here not long ago and there have been so many major changes in such a short time it seems, so maybe waiting till you (hunter) get everything exactly how you want it would be best.

I too would like to see this pushed back if you can, Hunter.  I think it's a great idea and all but with all the changes coming I think we need time to decide who we're going to play.

Echoing the voices that have said please give it a few weeks before you do this very generous charm-swap event.  You've asked players to give you feedback so you can make further tweaks to class abilities.  Let that dust settle so we can make an informed decision on what classes we want to play, with no foundation for regrets.  I know I want to retire some, if not all, of my paladins, but I haven't decided yet which classes I'll be bringing up to take their place.

Skorp

Good thoughts all I raise my hand to YES on putting transfer date on hold

Ok, I'll post pone this to a later date.

And I would like to make this server only available to charms coming off Paladins since they are the class that got nerf'd.

Will try to figure out when and how we'll do this charm thing.

As for waiting until class rebalancing is done, classes will always be worked on. There is no end to it. EZ Server is a never ending project.

Hunter

Aww and I was so excited to get UC put onto rogues and monks this weekend and off my warriors. 

Thanks Hunter.. you made it all make since.

Thanks Hunter.

Please don't make it tradeable only from paladins I got one rotting on a second warrior that I made when they was the best DPS.
With all the other classes revamped you nerf the warriors as the best DPS so I would like to get the UC off that warrior.

STALES

i guess some people will start selling them soon lol

Yeah I beg of you to reconsider allowing the trading off of toons no longer what they were.  Such as my wizard, he just isnt doing the dps I want and the charm would be much better on one of the melee dps classes.  Maybe make the window of opportuinity for a few hours?  I dunno.

Time to piss on the parade!

Honestly, I don't think this should be done. Everyone rushed out to build entire armies of the overpowered class, knowing full well it would get the nerf stick up the tailpipe. If people rush to gear up 'hax' characters, then they should live with one that is on-par with the rest of the world once it becomes normal again.

Alright kids, you can "/toggleragebomb on" now.

-Hate

Heya Hate,

I was thinking of you when I saw this picture:

(http://chzichcafterdark.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/a4b3b1d6-b8bf-418c-ae72-c5dc5a561a3d.jpg)

<3

-Clevitsj

PS: I agree with you. An UC on a character should never be a waste. Wanting to switch it to a different character just means you think that character could be OP with it, which means that'll get the nerfstick soon, etc etc etc. If you think your UC is wasted on the paladin, petition to give paladins a bit more power, dont petition to get the UC switched to the next OP class. Charm trading is only going to lead to grief, issues, and people buying UC's for PP's. Personally, I'll probably go on p99, track down a few old school players and offer them cyber for charms, if this goes through  :D

I don't know of anyone who'd give up an UC for plat unless it was like 50 million or something and they were set for the rest of their EZ lives on buying augs and stuff. Transferring of charms is not just giving players a chance to take them off a previously OP class, it's giving new classes higher playability. The changes are great but what good is the DPS on a monk if you have a sorcer's rank 1 with your 4 icestrikes and 2 ninjastrikes? Who wants to play their monk in that situation over, say, an UC paladin? Who wants to spend ANOTHER 6 weeks farming an UC for the monk just so they can be useful?

I have to agree, giving us a chance to switch UC or charm from any toon is a chance to be set with the NEW CLASS BALANCE ! we made our charm and UC according to the old setting, but now there is a looooooooooooot of change and thats cool, because now class are more balanced, but if we want to get a benefit from those change, we have to get them the right charm or UC, and all the people who worked weeks and month on getting there charm / UC dont really want to do it again ... it already was a pain to get, so if you want to see people playing rogue, monk ... let them get UC or Charm from any of there toon and put them on any of there toon, give us the chance to make our new set of toon and we will all be happy and play all the new class and enjoy the new class balance ;)

I'll benefit from being able to transfer charms, and for that I'm grateful. But I think we should see it as a gift from Hunter. We all had the benefit of those charms on an OP class (some more than others, for sure). Let's cut out the whining.

BTW, some people also need to learn to use periods. Commas are fun, but there are other punctuations available! It'll make your posts a lot easier to read.

I know you can set it so that accounts can be flagged as logging into a FV server(so you can have your GMs able to trade items for instance), might be able to do it like that just for paladins.

well english is my third language so just dont look at all the fault i can make, because i dont for people that doesnt speak french ...

And for what you said, he burned several hours on farming charm, we had to choose on which toon we are going to give charm depending of the power he had, did you made an UC on your beastlord or you berseker ? for sure no, because before the class balance, they simply sucks ... so yea, it was better to put UC on war, pal.

And too bad for you if you wish to play any other class thats sucks, you had to play a powerfull class or you cant reach high end game, but now you can ! so its a great chance to play the class you love, and its a wonderfull thing to be able to give this class the UC you made from you other toon you didnt wanted to play but you where required to play ...

Dont know if you understand, if you dont, i can write everything in french with the right punctuations, and without any fault, but i doubt you get a good translator to read it ...

N'hesite pas d'essayer, quand-meme.

(I know the punctuation is off - I am working on an Irish keyboard and am too lazy to find the right things for it atm)

I played an enchanter, and still play an enchanter, where it's still considered mostly just a buff bot by most. (This will change, with the boosts we got and the option for crowd control)

Got her to 4.0 epic without ever having to pay $$ for it, by virtue of hard work and even harder cybering :P

If you find out first which classes are "required" for progression, you're already setting yourself up for the nerfstick and should take it like a man/woman/android/other.

Warriors haven't been nerfed. Paladins have, but will be able to trade their charms. Everything is fine. And if Hunter decides to allow Wars to trade UCs, then great!

Let's all be grateful for what we receive.

As for your English, as a third language it is still better than some others for whom it is their only language. In fact, you probably understand grammar better since you learned French first  ;) I'm not mocking your ability, but giving a tip that a lot of people can use to better communicate.

If you take the direct route to consider nerfing, then yes, warriors were not nerfed. However, they are only marginally the best tanks around, stonewall is the only thing that helps at all and paladins get that too. Warriors were still good for being by far the best AoE DPS. Berserkers and druids are better now on that front as well. Warrior DPS is pathetic compared to the rest of the classes now. I am for making them able to be traded from all classes. Letting people situate themselves to be able to play any class they want rather than trying to pick maybe one or two cases to pull them off of is what the point of the changes were. Not many people have more than 1-3 paladins sitting around with UCs on, and paladin healing at least still makes them useful to groups.

Warriors were not nerfed; other classes have been balanced. The rhetoric makes a big difference.

Nothing happened to warriors. They do the same DPS that they did. They tank the same that they did. Now, it would be nice to give their UC to a DPS class to get even more DPS for minimal effort. That is up to Hunter. I would benefit from it as well, but it is laughable to say that warriors were nerfed. If we ask nicely or come up with more compelling arguments maybe he'll do it, but not based on a faulty premise.

The point I'm trying to make is that if you have an UC, it should be worth as much on the paladin as on the wizard as on the warrior (as on the enchanter lol)

If that is not the case, then classes are not balanced properly, or UC is only for certain classes and maybe other classes need an alternative.
If that is the case, then there is no need for charms to be made droppable, since what you have is perfectly fine.

-Clev

That wasn't the point of my post, Paladins were nerfed (replaced) as the top healers and top DPS. Warriors were nerfed (replaced) as the top AoE damage dealers. Paladin DPS has not been nerfed much anyways, just their ability to heal groups the best. Sure, the amount of healing and damage the epic proc did was reduced, but paladins still tank just as well as warriors, still DPS better than them, and heal. Warriors only have the advantage in aggro capabilities. If you have a close mind about nerfs and view them as only a reduction in abilities to certain classes, then that is your cup of tea and it would be a correct notion to say Warriors were not nerfed. I view them as classes being replaceable now. Wizards are replaceable as DPS with the new change to the spell. Warriors are replaceable as AoE characters because of Berserkers now. Knights can hold aggro with dread gaze and a crafted scepter of time- I clicky incredibly easily. Paladins tank better than Warriors with their stonewall.  They do more DPS. Warriors as a class are underpowered at best now, and the one purpose they had over paladins matters not if you make a berserker now. I view that as a nerf, if you do not, that is your own opinion.

Hey all im asking is to play a mixture of classes rather than 3 classes.  Im not selling any charms.   I just would like to make a change and I think would be fun as hell.  Those charms have allowed me to help certain people get 4.0's for free.  I dont see how I would affect anyone by playing one wizard with UC and a monk, rogue with one rather than all three wizards.  Maybe Im just simple minded but I am here for fun, and when I saw Hunter pop up this idea I thought amg this is so cool!  /shrug oh well man, maybe we should have it as a paid service or something?

From Urban Dictionary, nerf means "To make worse or weaken, usually in the context of weakening something in order to balance out a game."

I don't quote it as an authority, but because it represent the general consensus definition. So actually, you're the one redefining it.

But again, I'm not just trying to correct. I'm trying to help you to see that what you need is a more compelling argument. You know what? You're making a compelling argument about paladins being more powerful than warriors, and about the impact of the crafted scepter of time on the abilities of knights. Keep going with that. Those are great arguments, but simply labeling something a nerf gets us nowhere.

It is certainly fair to say the usefulness of warriors was nerfed heavily, which I did mention they are replaceable from the get-go. No, they did not get nerfed in a conventional sense, but bringing a different character beyond the abilities of another nerfs the class it went beyond. We saw that with clerics versus paladins, firestrikes versus icestrikes, etc etc. I know what the conventional MMO definition of nerf is, but it doesn't have to simply fall under a direct destruction of a class's abilities or damage. If you're running a business and selling light bulbs for 3 dollars each and another guy sells his for two, everyone will buy the ones for two dollars except a few people who have an emotional investment in you and your business. Same thing here for warriors, people still use them as main tanks because that's what they know, but when it comes out that paladins are MUCH better tanks, people will play their paladins for that. Much like paladins are getting replaced in groups slowly by clerics.

And then you have paladin tanks and are kicking yourself for taking the UC charm away from them. And then you work on an UC for them and warriors become top tanks again and you'll be kicking yourself for taking the RoA away from your warrior.

At the very least we have to reach a stable situation before any decisions are made, but I just think opening up for transfer will just open the floodgates of the QQ-continuum later on.

Each tank has a strong point. None are really hugely better than others.
I personally have a paladin and War in my group, redundant tanking, poison cures, heal proc, stonewall, etc...
Mix and match, or whatever... don't put all your eggs in one basket

First, thanks for the tip about punctuation, i will make an effort.  :D

Second, what you said about war is wrong, but its not the point of this topic, so just for a remind, war and ranger dps got nerfed with a source update a couple of month ago.  :-X

But again, this is not the point of this post, we just want to get the chance now to set up our new toon with the charm we made by pain and suffering, its not for any sell purpose.  ???

If you don't want to move any charm from your toon, then its fine for you, but many people will use this chance to be able to full play another class without having to wait "insert here number of month or week you will need to make a new UC" :o

Keep in your mind there is a lot of casual player in EZ, its not a live server, many player have maybe only one or two UC, and it took a loooooooooong time to do.  :-\

And to finish, i want to say : le serveur vient de faire d'énorme mise a jour en terme de jouabilité, cela demande donc a tous de s'adapter, un changement dans leur façon de jouer est nécessaire.
Par conséquent une nouvelle stratégie doit être mise en place, mais seulement si l'on peut transférer nos UC, c'est un gain de temps énorme ... sans quoi, il n'y aura pas de changement de stratégie, ce qui équivaut à une perte de puissance et l'incapacité d'attendre la fin de jeu ...  ::)

Most of our class rebalance is almost done. Should just be minor changes in classes, at least in the near future.

I'll announce in advance when we plan to make charms droppable. Might make it all charms, all classes, for 1-2 days allowed to trade.

Since most of the class changes are done, and T5 is going to open soon, might do it the same day that I open T5 (Feb 26th).

Will keep ya posted. Thanks for the feed back.

Hunter

Thanks Hunter, we all appreciate the hard work.

Like every time you come and speak with wisdom and reason, what can we say ? thanks a lot :D

I was curious what this said, so i transfered it directly into a French to English translator (as seen below). It doensn't look right, the translator seems to have failed. mind translating what you said?

The waiter has just done huge placement has day in terms of playability, that asks therefore has all to adapt itself, a change in their manner to play is necessary.  Consequently a new strategy must be set up, but only if one can transfer our UC, it is a huge saving of time... without what, there will be not change of strategy, which is equivalent to a loss of power and the inability to await the game end

Never mind, found a different (better) translator

The server has just made an enormous update in term of gameplay, it calls to all to adapt, a change in their way to play is necessary. Therefore a new strategy must be put in place, but only if it can transfer our UC, it is a gain of time enormous ... without what, there will not change of strategy, which is equivalent to a loss of power and the inability to wait until the end of the game

Я просто хочу я имел 1 УК. Я думаю, хорошие вещи происходят при наличии терпения и напряженной работы хотя. Здесь я приехал teir 2 Через 4 лишь около миллиона символы орудий лова.

Word..

Well its a good translation, but not perfect, some word need to be changed, because they make a difference ;)

Thanks Reed for the translation :D and btw look like you don't remember me ? do you  ???

I remember you, but its hazy as well. Padme was like a Froggy Cleric iirc. I forgot alot when i left sadly, catching back up now with people and making new acquaintances

loooooooool a froglok cleric... you didnt replace me, Padme is a supercute mage dark elf :D

I love supercute Darkelf Mages! ^,^

Sorry, i already have a gnome to love me  ::)

/rawr

Gnaughty is a ghetto gnome though with those diseases

I am Jack's depressed rejection

this is just to let Paladino see this post.

I don't have any UCs but I have to ask, if you had one on a Paladin would you move it?  And to what?

Seems like Paladins are still the best class for UC...  They benefit from both the Sorcers and Oracle part (the only 2 worth a crap really).  Maybe SK too?  Warrior for HP and Stonewall duration?  That's about it really isn't it?

Im not moving mine off my pally and still working another pallys up..


a lot of the other classes can us UCs well now.. with the recent changes.... I know my monk is next in line..

how much better is your monk with a UC vs just Sorc 50 though? (or 41 really)

I mean there are 17 classes, only 3, or 4 at most that really benefit from a UC (enough to make it worth it)?

The rest can all do with a Sorc or Oracle...

dont forget ... UC = 50K hp ! so i think all melee (pure and hybrid) class should have it, about caster ? wizard really need it  ::)

Yes every class its a huge benefit now with the hp's alone especially in T5 where my monks and rangers blinked their eyes and woke up in surefall glade.

Hush, I'm working on it!

So do we have any idea yet when this transferability might be taking place? Just curious.

Are we still thinking about making this possible for a day? I just haven't heard anything about it, and it's about that time =)

Any chance this still in the works?  Kinda dropped of the conversation map with this thread

Been waiting a long time for this to happen after the pally nerf. Would love to see this event soon

glad I didnt miss this. friendly bump to see if there is any date planned for this yet

Some people who shared their passwords with friends got their accounts stolen, deleted, scammed by their "friends". Because of those issues, I'm not going to do the charm transfer. Too many people share their passwords. Too many people will loose their charms, then claim it was hack when it was their friend, and then ask me for refunds when we don't do refunds.

That sucks, but you are the boss.