EZ Server

I am a fairly new player on here with EZ server and I love the server, but the new player experience has not been very forthcoming. Sub-tier 1 content has been especially frustrating when you go to nexus or stonehive to get the full T10 buff lineup and go to your zone of choice to farm or level up and some piece of shit nullifies all your buffs! Whose idea was this? Either make T10 buffs non-dispellable (i know you can do it, I run a server myself and the column is in the spell table) or remove dispel from lower tier mobs. Whats the point in dropping what I am doing to go get t10 buffs in nexus if in 5-10 minutes of getting them (1+ hour long buffs) they get dispelled?

People keep telling me to get my resists up... Well that would be great and all IF I COULD but its impossible to get my resists up before TOFS... Additionally, dispel (afaik) is NON RESISTABLE. Afaik you could have 10,000,000 in every resist and can have all your buffs stripped to the bone. So telling me to get my resists up does not help with avoiding dispel, unless this server is different in that regard with Live/Official.

INB4: get gud scrub
INB4: lrn2play scrub
INB4: use dummy buffs scrub
INB4: quityerbitchin scrub
INB4: learn to live without someone handing you T10 buffs
INB4: Don't like it here? Go back to live scrub (i dont want to play on Live, I want to play here! But I want to enjoy playing here and I cant enjoy it when my buffs are being dispelled every 5 minutes.)

The last point above is pretty much where I am at. When someone says "Casting 890%xp and T10 buffs in nexus center" my first thought used to be, fucking awesome!.. Now my first thought it "well i might as well not fucking bother because they will only last 10 fucking minutes".

I mean at least remove dispel up till ToFS or something. Mobs in BoT cast dispel, mobs in LDoN cast dispel, and Mobs in POTime cast dispel. You guys want new players, then stop pissing them off with this idiotic mechanic so they will stay!

Root: Root isnt near as bad as dispel, I can live with being rooted on pulls. It fucks up my pulls and I use my method of resetting the pull, which costs me time - but I can live with it. Its still fucking annoying though.

BLIND! Fucking blind... Blind is almost as bad as DISPEL, but not quite. When youre spending 80% of your time pulling with a solid black screen and your map up, something is wrong with your game. Blind needs to be removed or put more diversity in mob spell lines so they arent fucking casting blind (like dispel) every Goddamn pull.

Lastly, this is the only server ive played that has the mechanics listed above. Even on official servers mobs didnt blind, root, and dispel like they do on here. I realize there are work arounds, but the workarounds dont solve nor address root problem: why have good buffs that can be put on lowbies to help them if they are going to just be gone in one dispel? It's like you want lowbies to stay in PoFire for months or something...

/rant off

Just to start, you're probably going to get some blow back with this point in mind.  The lower tiers aren't designed to be pushed through while wielding T10 buffs.    It's also a good lesson about this server.  A lot of newer people think EZ stands for easy, but it's not at all.  It's Extended Zones, and the harsh reality is it only gets harder from Plane of Time and LDON.

I don't remember having as hard of a time with debuffs as you are currently, but I can tell you Root/Blind/Dispell is few and far between later on.  When I was a young Ogre, I avoided the areas that had dispellers.  What comes to mind immediately is the tentacle terrors in PoFear.  Little bastards.


Just like as I started, I want to be clear that those buffs aren't for you.  It is the courtesy of the end game players that hand them out like candy, myself included.  You can benefit from them for the time that you have them, but the tiers are designed to be faced with characters and buffs matching a tier lower than you're on.  It's suppose to be difficult and dangerous.  That's part of the fun.  The great thing about this server is, if you are struggling, you can make more characters, or create buff classes of your own.

Don't be discouraged by the debuffers.  It isn't forever and once you hit Qvic and Cazic, you'll have plenty more to worry about.  Appreciate the buffs while you have them, but don't depend on them.

Maybe take advice and not run only 6 mages.    

I do not think any development resources should be spent on a player that will not even roll the basic required toons for regular EQ let alone EZ.

In short, go play with your boy Otto's taint, scrub.

Actually, make T10 buffs stick only on level 76+.

Problem solved!

I dont have only 6 mages, I am running 18 characters. As I told you that day you jumped on my ass unprovoked when I came back that iw as just making the 6 mages as a test and for fun. But in your stubbornness you ignored that and talked down on me like you talk down to everyone else.

Maslow youre cool sometimes but sometimes you can be a real fuckin dick.

Scrub.

Youre right. I knew I would get blowback and I would ruffle some feathers. Hey thats cool and all, I guess thats what this subforum is for "Bitch about anything", which is what I was doing.

I appreciate your constructive feedback, unlike some other people on here...

Yeah, I was told it was a temporary thing, that would go away in later levels. I rolled some buffers (shaman/cleric/chanter) in my 18 man group so I can self buff WHEN i get to that point.

If T10 buffs arent meant to be on lowbies, then why not just disable them like Maslow said?
I dont really agree with that sentiment as this server is grindy as it is and it would hurt more than hinder new players than anything to just put a level restriction on them. Me bringing attention to this issue is not intended to hurt any new players, on the contrary.

If me bringing attention to this issue will just end up hurting new players because devs are gonna be all like "ok fine I will just disable the buffs for anyone <76"... then I guess this is the wrong community and server for me and I will just see myself through the door.

I was under the impression (Maslow notwithstanding) that you guys wanted people to stick around though.

This isnt a "give me what I want or I will leave" thing, this is supposed to be a a "here is what we can do to make the server more friendly and inviting to new players". But if certain people want to turn it into something else then whatever I guess.

Lolololol

EZ is the hardez.   Why you debuff, blind and root me devs?    I'm a Dev and know all about the EQ tables!    EZ is broken, you fix now!

Lolololol

It's the reason I made EZServerHowTo.  EZ can be a bit... unforgiving at times, both from the mechanics of the zones, and the player base.  I try to be a bit of positive energy in the community.


This was actually debated heavily by both the community and the admins.  At one point, there was restrictions put on buffs by level (unless I was in some kind of fantasy land), then on just the xp buff, and now it seems it's all rolled back.  There was also a bit of peer shaming between the buffers, because buffs were too prevalent, and player retention was dipping due to bottlenecks in content after players were burning through tiers unmolested.

http://ezserver.online/forums/index.php?topic=5224.15

From what I recall, the caps on buffs didn't work very well, which is why it isn't a current thing.  Also, the server tends to allow us to be the arbiters of how we wish to play, and if being charitable with buffs is what you want to do, so be it.  As I said before, the buffs are a perk, not a right.

I'm not sure I quite understand your angle on how this hurts newer players by not having readily available T10 buffs.  None of the lower content has been manipulated or changed to reflect the current state of end game buffs.  If anything, the zones have been nerfed over time to make them less grindy.  EverQuest is a grinder by definition.  To expect anything less would be an insult to its reputation and game mechanics.  What I've found over the many years I've been here, is the easier you have it, the less likely you'll stick around.  I've pulled several people from fresh level 70 to T5 or T6, and they never last more than a few months after.  It's that struggle that keeps you going.  Perhaps its because you've started with 18 toons that you may be feeling frustrated by the amount of grind?  I started with 3, then went to 8 until T3, then went to 12 to push through, then went to 16 in T5, and finally went to 20 around T10.  The back flagging sucked, but I could tear through content because I was geared.  I could see trying to pull 18 fresh toons through the content to be really difficult.

I don't want it to seem like I'm pulling a "Back in my day we suffered so you should suffer too".  If anything, it's why I choose to buff as often as I can, because I don't want the newer players to slog through the content like I did and abandon the server out of frustration.  But I guess I'm trying to put things into perspective that I don't see how being denied these buffs at any time should dramatically impact your ability to navigate your progression.  Perhaps its a position of quantity of loot needed for your toons, and those buffs allow you to acquire that amount easier?  If so, you're a special case that isn't the norm.

On a final note.  I also had 6 mages around T3/T4.  It was fun, but the novelty ran out quick.  Trying to gear 6 of the same class was awful.  Around T6 they do away with class specific armor.  Was a fantastic moment when I discovered this.  I have 3 berzerkers myself, so I felt the pain of that, but two were back flagged so it wasn't so bad.  I still have one mage in my team, does decent DD and the pet holds its own.

Kill yourself

Thanks.

QQ MOAR lil nublet!

Its not called EZ server because its easy to get to the top, and it shouldn't be, but FACT it has been nerfed over the years to the point where it can be discouraging to new people.

I never asked for it to be EASY. And for the record, I know what the E and the Z in EZ server means. Noot outlines this in one of his videos on YT (I've watched them all). Asking for T10 buffs to not get dispelled and complaining about root/blind is not asking for it to be easy. If they removed dispel/root/blind it would make it easiER, true - but not easy. You people are reading too much into what I am saying and proposing. This server is still a pita what with the drops... PoDragons... the grind.. etc without low-tier dispel/root/blind. The only thing I asked for really was removing Dispel at low levels and maybe even blind. Nothing else. If you think I am asking for the server to be "EASY" with just those requests then none of you even read my post and have no idea what reading comprehension really is.

Im not asking for easy. Im asking to remove one tiny little bullshit mechanic.

Just make T10 buffs work on only level 76+.   Put a level cap on xp mask.   This way we won't have to worry about lower levels being debuffed.     EZ fix!

Yeah lets just wipe all plat and items (sans "donated/bought" items) off the server as well and put everyone at level 1 then if thats the case. Lets just start everyone off on equal footing. Then we can all be uber "together". Right Maslow? :)

The people who grind would still be the ones who progress faster, so not really sure what this even means.

Im just referring to Maslow's scorched earth policy for everyfucking-thing. Remove T10 buffs for anyone <76... wipe all plat and nerf plat drops... you know, his usual. I figure fuck, why have half measures, just wipe the whole goddamn server.

Thats what I am referring to.

I want to point out that the people that told you to get your resists up were correct.  When you get your resists up you won't have a problem with dispels.
If you can't farm tofs resists yet then it's because you are at a point where the spells are probably the worst thing for you to overcome. Trust me, you will be wishing those were your biggest complaint later on.

How about use your big Dev brain to figure out a way to overcome the oh so insurmountable challenges of 3 spells?      Seems that would be better than saying it's too hard, ima go QQ on the forums.

If you don't want to or simply are incapable of figuring out a solution you can buy a group cure item on the EZ vendor.     Not a bad item to have long term anyway.

Free advice, doubt you will listen.

first rule of EZ: put Spazlow on /ignore. end of problem.

second rule, well there isn't really a second rule I just wanted to say, plenty of people finished the early tiers without mega buffs... a lot of us did it before things like UW, UC, and when the RoA only went to 100 (like back in 2009-2010) personally I got thru T5 with a group of only 4 (and one was a shitty mage  :P ) yes things actually have gotten harder in some cases, like the dispells... in fact I'm pretty sure those were added to specifically address the issue of low tier players facerolling everything with T10 buffs. so, that's probably something you'll have to deal with. chin up! it's entirely possible, in fact I'd say it should be pretty EZ with a group of 18.

Do you even play bro?    I believe your paladin is Gell correct?   Unsure what your tanks name is.  In truth, it doesn't much matter. 


This quote is very enlightening.   It explains why you think you are ready for T10 when you just have a couple of UC2s and mostly UC1s.    It was very enjoyable watching you spawn Den Mother and then be unable to clear to her.   I guess you quit after that huh?   

If you do not have UC3s at least on your primary group, you are not ready for T10!   Ignoring information does not make that information any less true. 

thanks, but I don't need you to tell me these things, especially not in your condescending way.  you might be the best most Uber player on the server and you might know a lot, or think you know a lot... but if you're a jerk to people, you're just a jerk. I know I'm not alone here, your reputation on this server is well known. so yeah, I stand by my statement.

If you don't know who this is, then you don't pay attention.......... or you may need to look in the mirror.

http://alden-tan.com/16-signs-modern-coward/ (http://alden-tan.com/16-signs-modern-coward/)

16 SIGNS OF THE MODERN COWARD
1) He fears honesty
2) He avoids strong people
3) He hangs out with weak-minded people he thinks he can take advantage of
4) He manipulates words to manipulate people
5) He never apologizes
6) He lay blames on everyone and everything else
7) He makes up excuses and confuses excuses for reasons
8 ) He buys into mainstream excuses and thinks it’s ok because everyone else believes the same
9) He’s a crybaby and creates drama to hide the fact that he fucked up badly
10) He likes to put on a show. And it has no ending
11) He’s a bully
12) He seeks validation online only
13) He doesn’t dare to take on a challenge alone
14) He’s a passive aggressive little bitch
15) He fights back not because he’s right, but to cover up his flaws
16) He feels he can’t go back


16 SIGNS OF THE MODERN COWARD
1) He fears honesty

He isn’t just dishonest, he fears honesty completely. The Modern Coward knows his true character isn’t worth a damn to others, so he lies and creates a false image for others. And this is to elevate himself on an illusionary pedestal to tower over others.

The Modern Coward is basically deluded as he revels in his own fake world. He lives in it and will die for it.

2) He avoids strong people

Because he knows he has an inferiority complex towards good, honest folks and fears that they’d call him out on his bullshit. He’d not be able to hide and fight back that way.

The irony is that he secretly admires and looks up to strong people, but he ends up trying so hard in the wrong direction.

3) He hangs out with weak-minded people he thinks he can take advantage of

And so, the Modern Coward preys on weak people instead. He acts super nice towards them at first and bares his fangs later on as he starts to extract favours like borrowing money and then never returning.

Have you ever had friends who loves to hang out with kids who are like ten years younger than them? That’s the Modern Coward doing his work. I’ve encountered such people. It’s both weird and disturbing.

4) He manipulates words to manipulate people

In other words, he uses all kinds of flowery bullshit to get his way. He knows there’s nothing much to show for in his character, so he banks on the fact that talk is cheap and uses empty words to get his way.

A coward needs words to show off. A brave person just takes action and make shit happen. His achievements would speak for itself.

5) He never apologizes

Mostly because he doesn’t dare to right the people he has wronged.

It works two ways: Firstly, the Modern Coward fears punishment. Secondly, he does not dare to look himself in the mirror for he thinks he has become a monster for screwing up so many times.

Alas, assholes do not apologize.

6) He lay blames on everyone and everything else

He does not dare to face the truth that he’s a fuck up. It has to be someone else’s fault, so he thinks.

I’ve fallen out with friends who have blamed me for the most ridiculous bullshit ever. It’s disgusting to know that people you considered friends would stoop so low. It’s pitiful to know that some people around you are brought up that way. It’s the folly of us honest folks who give too many second-chances.

7) He makes up excuses and confuses excuses for reasons

As tough and unforgiving the world is, I think most of us honest people can accept a reason or two, especially when it’s out of anyone’s control. But excuses have to go right out the door.

The Modern Coward is always ready to cook up some excuse and then swear by them. They can’t ever shut up and accept the fact that they fucked up.

8 ) He buys into mainstream excuses and thinks it’s ok because everyone else believes the same

Take for example, the lame idea that the Friendzone exists. It fucking does not. The coward wouldn’t dare to ask the girl out, but then comforts himself and pats himself on the back because all his friends believe the same. That’s a circle of cowards and the coward vibe won’t die off soon because no one dares to do a damn thing.

A brave person wouldn’t give a damn about what the whole world believes in. He reads, hears and takes in all kinds of knowledge. Then he rejects what he doesn’t want and takes the reins. He makes shit happen.

9) He’s a crybaby and creates drama to hide the fact that he fucked up badly

And then he hopes that the drama would distract others from the fact that he needs to man up, apologize and right the wrong. Sympathy points are the currency here and he wants to make you pay.

I once broke up with a girl who made a grand mistake. Before I found out, she broke down and cried uncontrollably like out of nowhere. When I asked her what was wrong, she literally said, “Oh you know, there’s just so much drama in my life.” That’s it.

It was only a bit later when she confessed that she fucked up. The crying and giving an excuse for the crying was totally unnecessary and cowardly.

10) He likes to put on a show. And it has no ending

Picture this: I used to have a friend who was a first-class Modern Coward.

At a party once, he got pissed with some dude and wanted to start a fight. All he did was kick his chair aside, stood up and stayed put. No fight ensued because everyone else helped to quell the situation, not that it really needed any quelling. I knew he wouldn’t dare to do anything.

A few months later, we had another party. Said dude and his friends were invited. The coward of a friend found out and started asking the rest of us, “Hey. Oh my God. I heard they’re coming. If anything happens you’ll back me up right?”

Honestly, if you can’t face the consequences and end what you finish, then don’t act like a fucking moron in the first place. Don’t be a coward.

11) He’s a bully

The Modern Coward is a bully. Straight up. That’s the equation. Cowards have a void in them and instead of facing their problems to better themselves, they take it out on others.

On a serious note, for people who feel that they’re being bullied, don’t be afraid. Stand up for yourself. Bullies don’t ever win over you. Don’t be afraid of both bullies and cowards, whatever form they may take.

They’re only suffering. Seek help. People are willing to help.

12) He seeks validation online only

I may be a little biased here, but the reliance on social media for social validation has gotten out of hand lately. People think that likes, shares and comments are what makes a person.

That said, the Modern Coward takes the easy route online and tries to build their persona or avatar that way. He doesn’t dare to face the world and do real, tangible, hold-in-your-hand shit.

Online is easy to get your message out there, but if you think that’s where your entire life is, then you’re a coward.

13) He doesn’t dare to take on a challenge alone

Because to a lot of people, alone is bad. Being alone is apparently too scary. You shouldn’t try something on your own. You ought to always seek help or get the green light by someone who proved he’s successful.

Just like seeking social validation, the Modern Coward lacks confidence entirely in what he’s capable of.

But it’s all bullshit. There’s nothing wrong with doing something and fucking it up at that alone. You shouldn’t need someone to hold your hand all the time. You can’t spread your wings and fly that way.

14) He’s a passive aggressive little bitch

That’s when he thinks he can get away with sarcasm or subtle nonsense. This is when the coward is constantly updating his Facebook status in annoying ways that make no sense.

In other words, he doesn’t dare to come clean. He thinks he’s always gaining the upper hand with his childish antics. He doesn’t.

See how the Modern Coward is also attention-seeking? Instead of approaching the matter at hand like a man, he decides to sulk about it. Bitch.

15) He fights back not because he’s right, but to cover up his flaws

I’ve had arguments with friends who’d start insulting me and bringing up my shortcomings as a way to divert from the main point, which is their fucking up in the first place.

Imagine trying to get them to see your point of view only to get a retort that goes like, “SO WHAT? How about that time you [brings up the past and everything unrelated to the main topic]”. And the Modern Coward is extremely defensive here.

16) He feels he can’t go back

I know it can be tough to face reality especially after you mess up so bad that you think nobody is going to forgive you or believe that you can change for the better.

I can bet it’s also tough to forgive yourself.

And the Modern Coward doesn’t want any of that. He just continues the self-destructive path.

But you know what? Here’s some tough love: Stop being a coward.

Everybody fucks up, and it’s entirely up to you to make the positive choice to become a better person. You might as well do something right, for once.

Well maybe another way to do it is for you to cast junk buffs on yourself with some insta clickies just like we used to do on live (first 5 slots be junk clicky buffs) then when something goes to dispel you just reclick the buffs....of course I still say complain about it to Rent and Akka...I mean flame away about it...I have been trying to get higher tier buffs from going to low level toons for years! All we need is a bunch of QQ on forums and he will do it...so PLEASE keep up the good work!

Yes please, moar QQ!

I feel like Maslow is just grinding post count  :o

I recently came back to the server and started a new toon to try and get a feel for the game again (last time I was here I was working on T3 with a guild).  Then i made a 6 man group and leveled that  up to 70 and I don't really understand where this request is coming from.  I didn't get a single set of buffs except from the buff bot (which i dont think we had back then so that's already made things easier) and I had no issues with only 6 toons.  I suspect your problem is either:
a) A gigantic sense of entitlement that makes you think other people OWE you any of their time, when they infact do not.  or
b) You're trying to run 18 toons through in your first go which is too many too fast.

I don't see how this is a problem for anyone but you, I would suggest you appreciate the buffs when you have them, but work on your own capabilities without the assumption that you will have 25x more health for your tier than is expected.

Lots of great free advice here. 

Here is some more:   If your progression <= LDON and you have an XP buff,  hit pofire for an hour.    Use that hours worth of great XP towards your teams RoA.   This increases HP, regen, and RESISTS!


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Rent as a GM:

There is no plans to change EZ Server's basic game play mechanics at this time.

Rent as a long time player:

I started with 1 toon and ended with 37 over my many years as a player. I have back flagged through content with and without the support of high buffs. I hate root with a passion, but would never advocate changing it or removing it, or dispel or blind (which with MQ2 isn't even a thing).

Rent as a GM:

I have made it a point, as side projects, to expand some of the lower tier content for new and old players (keep an eye on the horizons for that). I love the new players.

As for the language of this post at points, just please be mindful of our family community atmosphere.

Thanks.

Ummm... wipe the plat? You ain't touching my plat Maslow!

-Mix-

Bagwell is broken.    Broken otto.   Broken bagwell.