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[Crabthewall]

I honestly hear what your saying and understand why you and others may think that but I'm a fast typer and thinker and honestly I do not like explaining everything I do I'd rather just get straight to the point.

I wanted to start an actual conversation about this (something that does not seem to be an option on these boards these days because everyone just thinks your complaining) and maybe even have hunter chime in and explain to us that this may or may not change and why....that's all.  I mean if anyone could give us the logic behind it and an answer it would be him......my whole point of this thread no matter what some people may think or thought.

and I gave you the reason above - this isn't a downgraded weapon like we saw in 4.0's and given the balance of the 5.0 zone there is a good reason this weapon shouldn't be overpowering. I'm not sure how to be more specific than that.

Starting an adult conversation doesn't consist of "are you kidding" and phrases of the like however. That's a very poor way to start a dialogue or intelligent discussion as it comes off as whining or complaining. Instead you could have simply asked for why there doesn't appear to be a major upgrade in the statistics without coloring with phrases like that.

sorry i did not start the thread how you felt appropriate....but i typed how i felt when i saw it and I know many others who are very close have already said the same.  the whole reason of this thread if you want to believe me or not is to find out something that i obviously dont understand and maybe have an explanation sort of like you gave above.

Well now you know from the perspective of someone who is in the zone and using the weapon. It's appropriate basically for the content.

Not about what I feel is appropriate - you objected to being called a whiner. If you start that way you are a whiner to me - I'll call it like I see it. If on the other-hand you start with an adult statement then you would have had that response from me more immediately and i would have clarified why the weapon shouldn't be overpowering without calling you a whiner.

[steelstorm]

I honestly hear what your saying and understand why you and others may think that but I'm a fast typer and thinker and honestly I do not like explaining everything I do I'd rather just get straight to the point.

I wanted to start an actual conversation about this (something that does not seem to be an option on these boards these days because everyone just thinks your complaining) and maybe even have hunter chime in and explain to us that this may or may not change and why....that's all.  I mean if anyone could give us the logic behind it and an answer it would be him......my whole point of this thread no matter what some people may think or thought.

and I gave you the reason above - this isn't a downgraded weapon like we saw in 4.0's and given the balance of the 5.0 zone there is a good reason this weapon shouldn't be overpowering. I'm not sure how to be more specific than that.

Starting an adult conversation doesn't consist of "are you kidding" and phrases of the like however. That's a very poor way to start a dialogue or intelligent discussion as it comes off as whining or complaining. Instead you could have simply asked for why there doesn't appear to be a major upgrade in the statistics without coloring with phrases like that.

sorry i did not start the thread how you felt appropriate....but i typed how i felt when i saw it and I know many others who are very close have already said the same.  the whole reason of this thread if you want to believe me or not is to find out something that i obviously dont understand and maybe have an explanation sort of like you gave above.

Well now you know from the perspective of someone who is in the zone and using the weapon. It's appropriate basically for the content.

Not about what I feel is appropriate - you objected to being called a whiner. If you start that way you are a whiner to me - I'll call it like I see it. If on the other-hand you start with an adult statement then you would have had that response from me more immediately and i would have clarified why the weapon shouldn't be overpowering without calling you a whiner.

you can talk to me in game. on sherminaitor, im not doing this in the forums.

if you want to talk about how this weapon keeps you in line with the content but actually keeps you the same way as when you walked in the door go for it.

[Crabthewall]

you can talk to me in game. on sherminaitor, im not doing this in the forums.

if you want to talk about how this weapon keeps you in line with the content but actually keeps you the same way as when you walked in the door go for it.

I'm giving you perspective from someone wielding the weapon in the zone it was designed for, it's all I can do.

If you feel your perspective is more accurate on this weapon and zone that is your prerogative to feel that way; and others can feel free to agree or disagree with you based upon the cohesive and rational arguments as to why this is the case that you put forward.

[steelstorm]

i mean grtz on the 4.5, but can you really notice a diff with the 5 ac since i guarantee your well over the soft cap.....and the 1k more hp... ive been there with my main war and he has occassionally been quad'd for 88k each round which def gobbles up the 300k roughly hes sitting at.

[walk2k]

On one hand none of the upgrades we've seen so far seem like they are very big.  2-3k hp on each tier piece (including the extra aug slot, another 16-17 augs you gotta go back to HoH and farm..).  

Other hand, you can't just double the stats and keep the zone and the gear balanced.  Not the way it's setup currently.  If there was more of a progression in there it might make sense, but that's not how it's setup, and you don't want people just steamrolling in there, not yet anyway.  I don't blame them at all for starting small and adjusting if from there (IF needed).  We also haven't seen the 5.0 yet

oh yea and GRATZ CRAB!!!

[barrettd04]

Hey Crab, is the graphic different than the 4.0?

[Crabthewall]

Hey Crab, is the graphic different than the 4.0?

Is the 2handed epic 1 graphic red/blue glowy

[Hunter]

Yawn, did not read.

[Fabdibikya]

Yawn, did not read.

This.

Also, guys - First thing I did with spells file after t5 came out was check if the 4.5 and 5.0 effects were there. They weren't, for any epic.

So seriously, get off your high horse, realise that some things might still need to be changed/implemented, and have patience.

-Clev

PS: Everyone hates me. The Abyss says so itself. Nice fix, Hunter

[nuska]

you probably wont be seeing the 5.0 for a long time. pretty sure hunter said you have to kill all 100 bosses to get the book. he also said it will take people a long time to figure out how to spawn mobs and some may not even be spawned. i wouldn't be surprised if one is broken until hunter feels the server is ready to have 5.0's

One of the 100 bosses is the Epic 4.5 boss, yet to be discovered. Killing all 100 bosses will get you an Epic 5.0 Book. There are no epic pages required, the books are already completed. The Epic Vendors are already working as well for the Epic Books.

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Reminder: There are 100 boss and 100 triggers. Some might be easy to figure out, and others might never get figured out.

[Crabthewall]

Just so people know, it's this thread why I won't link them up anymore in OOC. I'm not trying to be a dick - but certain people felt it was their position to complain about it - and I want no part of that so I won't provide links in future to help stem that tide.

Again - not trying to be a dick - but now you know why I say no when you send me a message asking me to link it. I assume if hunter wanted them public he would have had the epic bot link them up publicly as per all the rest.

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