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« Reply #15 on: March 19, 2014, 01:10:45 pm »
Quote from: Takishi on March 19, 2014, 07:58:39 am
I disagree with a UW taking 300 hours of farming.  With double loot, you could knock out 3 ranks easily. I farmed up 400+ essences of various types this weekend alone and played about 12 hours total.  The only drawback might be the 10 mil to create it.

The essence drop rates were drastically increased a short while ago to 10% from bosses and .5% from trash. It takes time to farm anything, but 300 hours of pure UW farming, I don't buy it.

UCv1 is required for T5 or you'll spend months in this zone. Resists are required for TOFS/T7+ or your army will die to aoe constantly. SOA is required for tanks to live.  UW (while not required) isn't as "hardcore" as it once was and could be thrown into the required category for anyone T8+.

I would like to see additional stats on the number of players who are serious about progression (7+ chars from the same IP) that have and that don't have UWs. I'd be willing to bet 70% or more have a UW.


Christmas double loot, I played 216 hours ; Came out with 4 ranks, 1-4. It does take a ridiculous amount of time and there's no arguing that one.
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« Reply #16 on: March 19, 2014, 01:26:09 pm »
UW farming/grind is what it is and for good reason.

this past weekend I went from 5 to 8 and have all but the plat do 9

I found god minor and majors to be spot on with the drop rates at 10%
or even higher.

the only thing that held me back was the token farming.
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« Reply #17 on: March 19, 2014, 01:49:47 pm »
Quote from: Quaglin45 on March 19, 2014, 01:10:45 pm
Christmas double loot, I played 216 hours ; Came out with 4 ranks, 1-4. It does take a ridiculous amount of time and there's no arguing that one.

Quote from: Hunter on January 12, 2014, 02:24:33 am
Essences from Qvic - T9 drop rates have all been adjusted to average 10% from bosses and 1/200 off trash, about double the rate from before.

IE - UW is much easier to farm now.  216 hours of farming in today's world should easily net a rank 8 UW, with the possible exception of bad RNG with TOFS essence.  
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« Reply #18 on: March 19, 2014, 06:28:12 pm »
It's still nothing that should be required to farm. Even if it is "faster" now which it honestly isn't much faster at all. 0/49 Vhal so far , that's 30 ~ hours right there.

TOFS is quite the grind that's going to add a ton more time to the farming, but it's still not at any rate "exceptionally fast" excluding TOFS
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« Reply #19 on: March 19, 2014, 10:50:49 pm »
Quote from: Quaglin45 on March 19, 2014, 06:28:12 pm
0/49 Vhal so far , that's 30 ~ hours right there.



don't farm Vhal, go to level 7 if possible and farm Svartmane, accomplishes 2 goals, ninja clickies and master essences which you can use for any lvl UW. I had 4, used them on lvls 6, 7, 8 and going to use on 9
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« Reply #20 on: March 19, 2014, 11:56:47 pm »
got an question about floor 7 is key farmin still hard like 6-9 months ago ?
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« Reply #21 on: March 20, 2014, 12:14:00 am »
Quote from: rent on March 19, 2014, 10:50:49 pm
Quote from: Quaglin45 on March 19, 2014, 06:28:12 pm
0/49 Vhal so far , that's 30 ~ hours right there.



don't farm Vhal, go to level 7 if possible and farm Svartmane, accomplishes 2 goals, ninja clickies and master essences which you can use for any lvl UW. I had 4, used them on lvls 6, 7, 8 and going to use on 9

Rent you know I can't do floor 7 Tongue
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« Reply #22 on: March 20, 2014, 12:25:04 am »
Why not?  First Tserrina kill was with done with a UW 5...
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« Reply #23 on: March 20, 2014, 12:44:43 am »
Quote from: Dimur on March 20, 2014, 12:25:04 am
Why not?  First Tserrina kill was with done with a UW 5...
Only pushing 2 toons currently War/Pal on floor 7 with resists. UW V on war, paladin has x3 FS 8 but still not dps worthy.
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« Reply #24 on: March 20, 2014, 01:56:09 pm »
I did her with an uw 4. Long fight till her stonewall falls off. Even with scarecrow curse its long.
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« Reply #25 on: March 20, 2014, 03:06:53 pm »
I guess I'm confused by your arguments then because you already have a UW.
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« Reply #26 on: March 20, 2014, 03:08:22 pm »
Quote from: Poker-ecaf on March 19, 2014, 11:56:47 pm
got an question about floor 7 is key farmin still hard like 6-9 months ago ?

Nah - it's not bad at all.  Few hours and the entire army can be floor 7 keyed.  As for getting the master key, that isn't terrible either, except for her massive stonewall.
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« Reply #27 on: March 20, 2014, 03:25:16 pm »
The UW Is a ultimate weapon for a reason, It takes time and money to get one. While i do not believe content should be based on it and having one required to continue I do realize that how much people have worked to get them and should be Uber in the zones already made.
The question i raise is why even make epics for the zones that require a UW to be in? It defeats the purpose entirely. Lets say i want to break into T8 for a epic, Why bother, at the T8 level i can go back and farm UW's for each of my toons faster that make the epic obsolete. UW owners should be Uber, Not a "have to have one" to advance in content unless it is zone specially designed for UW owners.
Just my 2 cents.
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« Reply #28 on: March 20, 2014, 06:12:32 pm »
going from 1m hp to 8m hp in 4 ranks is what needs to be changed, id say leave the rest of the weapon as is, especially after the removal of the clicky.

just my 2 cents..... and in today's economy, probably worth half that Tongue
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« Reply #29 on: March 20, 2014, 07:13:43 pm »
at my current rate of farming dragon minors I will have uW3 in 100000 hours....seems fair
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